Skip to comments.Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church
Posted on 09/25/2007 7:24:04 AM PDT by NYer
Joni Mitchell is back after nine years, and she’s on the attack. In the title track to her new album, “Shine,” Mitchell takes a nice swipe at the Catholic Church by name.
“Shine on the Catholic Church/And the prisons that it owns,” she sings. “Shine on all the Churches/that love less and less.”
Mitchell was never one to mince words, but in her triumphant return on Starbucks’ Hear Records, she doesn’t give an inch.
In “Shine,” she continues: “Shine on lousy leadership/Licensed to kill/Shine on dying soldiers/In patriotic pain/Shine on mass destruction/In some God's name!”
Mitchell’s album will be something of a revelation to young people who might buy it at Starbucks when it’s released Tuesday if they listen to it and read the lyrics.
Mitchell, the original singer-songwriter, presents herself in stark contrast to the dodo-brained warblers of this generation. She’s cynical and doesn’t mind expressing it.
In my favorite song, “Bad Dreams,” she begins by painting a happy picture: “The cats are in the flower bed/A red hawk rides the sky/I guess I should be happy/Just to be alive...”
But then the other foot falls, and it’s a doozy. When I first heard the next line, I actually laughed out loud. All I could think was, You tell ‘em, Joni:
“But we have poisoned everything/And oblivious to it all/The cell phone zombies babble/Through the shopping malls…”
And that’s just for starters. She observes: “You cannot be trusted/Do you even know you're lying/It's dangerous to kid yourself/You go deaf and dumb and blind.”
Mitchell plays nearly all the instruments on the album herself, and does all the singing. And while the lyrics are harsh indictments of modern culture, Mitchell serves them up with grace and style.
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It’s easy to be against stuff. So what is she for? Has she got any answers to tough questions? Charm the terrorists with flowers? Against big companies. They provide jobs and she doesn’t have an answer to that other than write songs against everything.
Garbage served with “grace and style” is still garbage.
Sadly it’s the only way she can express herself and produce music.
Oh really? Fits right in if you ask me along with oldtimers like Streisand.
“Shine on the Catholic Church
And the prisons that it owns
Shine on all the Churches
They all love less and less”
WHAT? The Catholic Church owns hospitals, orphanages, AIDS clinics, shelters for battered women, universities, schools, daycare centers, pregnancy crisis centers... but PRISONS?
And it isn’t just Catholicism she hates:
Shine on good humor
Shine on good will
Shine on lousy leadership
Licensed to kill
Shine on dying soldiers
In patriotic pain
Shine on mass destruction
In some God’s name!
It never occurs to a moonbat like Joni that if no one ever "paved Paradise and put up a parking lot" there would be no record companies to give her the contracts that have made her a very wealthy woman.
Right up there in the ranks with Sinead O'Connor and Charlotte Church.
“Shes cynical and doesnt mind expressing it.”
‘Cause you know, cynicism is unknown to modern popular “musicians”, like 50 Cent, 9 Inch Nails, the Sex Pistols, Green Day...
I guess this is the “fair and balanced” part of Fox, cheering on a woman insulting the purposes served by our soldiers, snidely attacking belief in God, and proclaiming her superiority over the mindless masses using telephones in shopping malls. Being a guy that doesn’t much use his cell, I’d lay odds that Joni Mitchell has spent more time talking on cell phones in malls than I have. Her skin, stretched too thin from facelifts, isn’t what I consider the mark of a philosopher or spiritual thinker . . .
The face of Starbucks.
I’m destroying all her music in my possession.
As Mitchell prepared to leave her home in Saskatoon to relocate to Toronto, she became pregnant. Seeing no other alternatives, she gave her daughter, Kelly Dale Anderson (born February 19, 1965), up for adoption. The experience remained private for most of her career, but she made allusions to it in several songs, most notably the song "Little Green" (from Blue), and, years later, the song "Chinese Cafe" from "Wild Things Run Fast" ("Your kids are coming up straight/My child's a stranger/I bore her/But I could not raise her"). Her daughter, renamed Kilauren Gibb, began a search for her as an adult, and the two were reunited in 1997. 
I think that filth from Sinead O’Connor helped kill her career.
Another commie liberal doing what liberals do. Since I’ve never even considered give $3.00 for a cup of coffee I can’t quit so I guess you coffee aficionados will have to step up to the plate.
Or as I like to say....
A poo covered with chocolate is still a poo.
Thanks for the poo, Joni.
Typical depressed ex-hippy. I’ve got one in my family.
Joni looks a little shop worn.
Indeed, the face of Starbucks.
I haven't seen the inside of one of those places in years, and the palpable "Joni Mitchell" ethos of the places are as much a part of the reason as is my reluctance to stand in line for their overpriced coffee, served by some cretin with a nostril ring.
Joni Mitchell typifies the phony piety of rich leftists.
Huh? Catholic church "Licensed to kill?" Catholic church "And the prisons that it owns?" "Shine on dying soldiers..."
WTF? Can someone here please explain to me WTF she is talking about? I don't get it. "Mass destruction?"
Me too! They swing back and forth between "butterfly and rainbow world" and "rage and ignorance world" very quickly.
100 years from now the Catholic Church will still be standing, and Joni, like most anti-Catholic bigots, will be long forgotten.
Roger Friedman is a publicist’s dream; the ultimate celebrity ass-kisser.
Joni Mitchell will fade away into deep obscurity again soon.
In a related topic, why does this new Garth song suck?
Starbucks pushed the Dixie Chicks like crazy also. I’m sure that in Seattle where they’re enamored of the smell of their own farts, the progressives buy the hell out of this crap.
I guess I will show my age here but I never heard of her.
Count your blessings.
That's unfortunate because it means I don't have any of her records to ceremonially smash....:-)
You mean the same Carol King that sang "You've Got a Friend" for Fidel Castro?
In the late 1960s - when hard rock and protest music were all the rage - she wrote very quiet, introspective and personal songs, and her "conscious" lyrics were done playfully a la "Big Yellow Taxi."
She went against the grain, but inspired a number of imitators of lesser quality (James Taylor, Jackson Browne, the new Carole King).
Then, when the singer-songwriter movement she helped create really took off, she went in another direction: jazz fusion and avant-garde music.
She collaborated with forward-thinkers like Jaco Pastorius and Charles Mingus.
But now she's just following along with the crowd.
Many people who used to be original, innovative talents (Pete Townshend, Burt Bacharach, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell) are following the lead of ninth-rate hacks like Conor Oberst and putting out cookie-cutter anti-Pope and anti-President songs and albums.
It doesn't make me angry - it makes me kind of sad. It's like watching a spry grandparent who used to be full of clever jokes and interesting stories and who liked to take you traipsing all over town reduced to drooling incoherently in a nursing-home basement watching gameshows.
LOL! A good description, indeed!
>>Me too! They swing back and forth between “butterfly and rainbow world” and “rage and ignorance world” very quickly.<<
It’s a “Why can’t we all just get along/all we need is love” thing, unless they disagree with you. Then it’s war.
Yep, that one.
I was a naive teenager and the politics of rock stars meant nothing to me. It was all about the music.......
Amen to that!!!
it may be very unhip and unsophisticated of me to ask this...
Interesting. My daughter is adopted. She tracked down her birth mother several years ago. The first meeting went so well she decided to revisit her. The 2nd meeting was quite the reverse. She has since lost all interest.
I've never adopted nor given up a child for adoption, so I'm not terribly equipped to comment. Let me simply say that I'm not overly surprised.
Shine on the Catholic Church/And the prisons that it owns
Sed Chesterton respondet:
And if we took the third chance instance, it would be the same; the view that priests darken and embitter the world. I look at the world and simply discover that they don't. Those countries in Europe which are still influenced by priests, are exactly the countries where there is still singing and dancing and coloured dresses and art in the open-air. Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground. Christianity is the only frame which has preserved the pleasure of Paganism. We might fancy some children playing on the flat grassy top of some tall island in the sea. So long as there was a wall round the cliff's edge they could fling themselves into every frantic game and make the place the noisiest of nurseries. But the walls were knocked down, leaving the naked peril of the precipice. They did not fall over; but when their friends returned to them they were all huddled in terror in the centre of the island; and their song had ceased.
and got the usual bureaucractic run around and double-speak:
"We don't censor the music that we sponsor or sell."
ME: "Would you admit that 'Shine on the Catholic Church and the prisons it owns' is anti-Catholic?"
"Well . . . "
ME: "So then Starbucks sponsors and sells anti-Catholic music?"
"I didn't say that . . . "
Then she hung up.
If you have a few moments and you want to have some fun (and like Rush says, you can leave half your brain tied behind your back during this call, folks), call the rocket-scientists out at Starbucks and make them earn this week's paycheck.
Of course, right after that I called the Catholic League in New York - and they are on the case!
Or the grandparent who tells you the same story over and over ...
“But we have poisoned everything/And oblivious to it all/The cell phone zombies babble/Through the shopping malls ”
“They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.”
Remarkably similar thoughts - only 35 years apart! As someone who loved her records back then, all I can say is that she is stuck in a time warp. There’s nothing more pathetic than an aging hippie who can’t seem to find anything better to do than protest “something.” It’s just that same old Viet Nam protest attitude being re-hashed. It was tiresome then, and it’s tiresome now.
“When I was young, we used to go out and protest the War. By golly, I’ve still got it, I can still protest the War! ... What War are we protesting, anyhow?”
So do some FReepers.
Just another lesbian against Christ.
‘70s easy-listening folk singer/songwriter. Didn’t get asked out in high school, never got over it, takes it out on the world through song.
Actually, she has cut a couple of good tracks over the years but it’s been thirty years or so since the last one.
Indeed - the idea is similarly vapid in both songs.
But the tune of "Big Yellow Taxi" is infectious and upbeat - it has fun with itself. Her later music has become both less experimental and less fun, while becoming more self-conscious and ponderous.
And the lyrics of "Big Yellow Taxi" are more, well, lyrical. They scan nicely and are alliterative. She was a better writer at the age of 27 than she is now at the age of 64.
Her first "grown-up" album of pop songs has yet to sell gold, two years after its release.
I think you’re thinking of another of her songs - unless you think the writing in “Big Yellow Taxi” was vapid and lyrical at the same time. (Late last night she heard the screen door slam and a “Big Yellow Taxi” took away her “old man.” Now “don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone - they pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Doo wah wah wah wah.” Also included in the song is the line about “putting all the trees in a tree museum and charging a dollar and a half just to see ‘em.”) It does have a catchy tune, though.
Heh, I’m not sure who I like less . . . old hippies or Starbucks. I think it’s Starbucks; I’ve always been fond of locally owned coffee shops with good pastries and late hours. Starbucks is killing them.
Good for you for passing this on to an anti-defamation league. I want to see her explain the “prisons” comment and I want to see Starbucks face 70 million insulted Catholics who might forgoe an overpriced latte and discover the pleasure of a coffee combined with a Napoleon or good pastry and more interesting shops (with real live shop owners that you can get to know).