Posted on 10/08/2007 6:08:42 AM PDT by NYer
There are so MANY errors and foul questions that come from this goofy Mariology that it's a wonder as many RCs believe it as they do.
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long. For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah. I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him. Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah. I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye. Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee. 1 Many sorrows shall be to the wicked: but he that trusteth in the LORD, mercy shall compass him about." -- Psalm 32:1-10"Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
Thank you for making that clear. I doubt it will help, but you have been a witness.
The fact that time is a mystery is no excuse for contradicting God’s word.
Right? But it is part of it. It was the only part of it for centuries until later Popes realized that it was too simple and easy and decided to add some more conditions. But it is still supposedly Mary's plan of salvation of which wearing the scapular is a part --
1 Corinthians 10:
[25] Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.
[26] For "the earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
[27] If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience.
[28] (But if some one says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then out of consideration for the man who informed you, and for conscience' sake --
[29] I mean his conscience, not yours -- do not eat it.) For why should my liberty be determined by another man's scruples?
PAPERTYGER: Thank you for making that clear.
Ping to post 138 and the Catholic thread therein which, according to Father Baker, instructed us of the RCC teaching that...
"...the priest...in a mysterious way offers once again the unique sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross..."
So it looks like you and Father Baker are at odds. Time to get your stories straight.
Why aren't you muslim? If what Elijah did was "evangelism," Mohammed should be right up your alley.
Amen. I doubt if He looks kindly on placing them next to His Son, either, in terms of reverence, worship and allegiance.
"The Sabbatine Privilege thus consists essentially in the early liberation from purgatory, through the special intercession and petition of Mary, which she graciously exercises in favour of her devoted servants preferentially -- as we may assume -- on the day consecrated to her, Saturday. Furthermore, the conditions for the gaining of the privilege are of such a kind as justify a special trust in the assistance of Mary. It is especially required of all who wish to share in the privilege that they faithfully preserve their chastity, and recite devoutly each day the Little Hours of the Blessed Virgin. However, all those who are bound to read their Breviary, fulfil the obligation of reciting the Little Hours by reading their Office. Persons who cannot read must (instead of reciting the Little Hours) observe all the fasts prescribed by the Church as they are kept in their home diocese or place of residence, and must in addition abstain from flesh meat on all Wednesdays and Saturdays of the year, except when Christmas falls on one of these days. The obligation to read the Little Hours and to abstain from flesh meat on Wednesday and Saturday may on important grounds be changed for other pious works; the faculty to sanction this change was granted to all confessors by Leo XIII in the Decree of the Congregation of Indulgences of 11 (14) June, 1901."
There is no contradiction. It is only an apparent contradiction because you have been fed a heretical theology.
What's wrong? Afraid it might actually sound reasonable if you didn't delete enough detail?
It was evangelism for those who paid attention to Elijah, so the alley is yours to take.
What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Mass (Sacred Liturgy) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Eucharistic Mystery [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Eucharist (Real Presence) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Face it! It's a mystery, and if you don't understand it on faith, then we will let the Lord, Jesus Christ, be the judge at the moment you die. Will He ask you, "Why did you ridicule the Holy Eucharist? The Sacrament I instituted at the Last Supper? The Sacrament I instructed my apostles and disciples, "Do this in remembrance of me."?? Only you will be able to answer for yourself.
Praying for you and for all the unbelievers that you may come to the wisdom and knowledge of faith.
Remember, there is no teaching of the RCC which is so clear it cannot be denied, redefined, or modified as required.
lol. More’s the pity.
The Early Church Fathers on The Real Presence - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
At the heart of our faith is the great paradox. That much is true. But through God's word there is so much we can and must know about God and Christ and ourselves. Hebrews 10 says Christ's sacrifice was "once" for all the sins of His flock.
According to the link I posted from Father Baker, the mass indeed repeats the sacrifice as if the first time had not accomplished all that it was supposed to have accomplished.
Thank you for the links. But they all say the same thing. The mass is a perpetual sacrifice, which is against God's word and denies the truth that the sins of Christ's sheep have been paid for in full at Calvary.
The eucharist is worship of the material world, of icons and relics and statues and repeated sacrifices, all performed by men who blasphemously are referred to as "another Christ."
God is spiritual and we are instructed to worship Him spiritually, not carnally.
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." -- John 4:24"Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods." -- Psalm 97:7
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