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Knights Templar win heresy reprieve after 700 years
Yahoo ^ | Thu Oct 11, 8:33 PM ET | By Philip Pullella

Posted on 10/12/2007 11:41:08 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 10/12/2007 11:41:11 AM PDT by xzins
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...with a 5,900 euros (4,125 pounds) price tag.

I'll wait for the paperback version.

2 posted on 10/12/2007 11:44:23 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: xzins

Oh the conspiracy folks are going to have fun with these.


3 posted on 10/12/2007 11:45:21 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: xzins

This is like Hillary giving back campaign money two years after the election is over.


4 posted on 10/12/2007 11:46:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


5 posted on 10/12/2007 11:46:51 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; opus86; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

This is a Friday Neener Friendly Thread.

I posted it.

It’s about Knights.

:>)


6 posted on 10/12/2007 11:49:22 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Steelerfan

I agree, the Illuminate(sp?)/Free Masons screams should begin in the next few minutes


7 posted on 10/12/2007 11:50:29 AM PDT by sticker
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To: uglybiker

Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.


8 posted on 10/12/2007 11:51:25 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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To: mnehrling
Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.

Ditto

9 posted on 10/12/2007 11:53:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: blackie

Ping for the nubile Hooter’s waitresses and ale.


10 posted on 10/12/2007 11:59:06 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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To: xzins
It is precisely 700 years ago this week, Friday October 13, 1307, that King Philip (Le Bel) of France sent his henchman, Guillaume de Nogaret (who had caused the death of the previous Pope Boniface so that Philip could install Clement and begin the Avignon Captivity) to betray and arrest the Templars in the Paris commandery.

Interesting timing.

I’m among those that think they were the good guys and that the bad guys have held their legacy hostage for all this time. I find it most instructive that they were the “bad guys” in the virulently anti-Christian book and movie The Da Vinci Code. The fact that story, among others, specifically echos the heresies of both the Islamists and the Gnostics and attempts to portray The Poor Knights of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon as the source of evil is instructive.

Liberals still practice this kind of lying. It’s called “projection.”  Accuse your enemies of your own crimes (or sins) and they can't then credibly bring out the truth against you.  It's where the "they all do it" defense came from.

11 posted on 10/12/2007 12:02:09 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: sticker

Doesn’t this prove that the Templar/Illuminati/Masonic/Bilderberger/New World Order conspiracy has finally infiltrated the Vatican, and issued this whitewash? /s


12 posted on 10/12/2007 12:04:01 PM PDT by hellbender (A)
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To: mnehrling; P-Marlowe; xzins; opus86; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

“Ping before the conspiracy crowd blows in.”

Not to worry, I have my secret decoder ring on so all are safe.


13 posted on 10/12/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
The Telegraph | 05/10/2007 | Malcolm Moore
Posted on 10/05/2007 4:44:50 AM EDT by Daffynition
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1906886/posts

Vatican book on Templars’ demise
BBC | October 5, 2007
Posted on 10/05/2007 4:44:55 PM EDT by NYer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1907168/posts


14 posted on 10/12/2007 12:11:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

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15 posted on 10/12/2007 12:11:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; xzins; opus86; Revelation 911
The Knights Templar, the medieval Christian military order accused of heresy and sexual misconduct...

Would that make them Boogie Knights?

16 posted on 10/12/2007 12:15:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: hellbender

you forgot the Skull and Bones/Girl Scouts/Space Aliens at Area 51


17 posted on 10/12/2007 12:16:12 PM PDT by sticker
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To: sticker
almost forgot:
18 posted on 10/12/2007 12:23:45 PM PDT by sticker
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To: xzins

here is another link:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S7S5I82&show_article=1&catnum=0

Vatican to Publish Templar Trial Papers


19 posted on 10/12/2007 12:25:02 PM PDT by RDTF (Proud member of the lunatic fringe)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; opus86; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

A Country Funeral

As a young minister, I was asked by a funeral director to hold a grave-side service for a homeless man, with no family or friends. The funeral was to be held at a cemetery way back in the country, and this man would be the first to be laid to rest there.

As I was not familiar with the backwoods area, I became lost; and being a typical man did not stop for directions. I finally arrived an hour late.
I saw the backhoe and the crew, who were eating lunch, but the hearse was nowhere in sight.
I apologized to the workers for my tardiness, stepped to the side of the open grave and saw that the vault lid was already in place. I assured the workers I would not hold them up for long, but this was the proper thing to do. The workers gathered around, still eating their lunch. I poured out my heart and soul. As I preached, the workers began to say “Amen,” “Praise the Lord,” and “Glory”! I preached, and I preached, like I’d never preached before, from Genesis all the way to Revelations. I closed the lengthy service with a prayer and walked to my car.

As I was opening the door and taking off my coat, I overheard one of the workers saying to another, “I ain’t never seen anything like that before, and I’ve been putting in septic tanks for twenty years.”


20 posted on 10/12/2007 12:25:52 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Corin Stormhands

Rotflol!

It absolutely would, my friend.


21 posted on 10/12/2007 12:32:08 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: rdl6989; xzins

Maybe in another 700 years they’ll discover the Internet and post the documents.


22 posted on 10/12/2007 12:33:11 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: xzins

The ashes of Jacques de Molay will be relieved.


23 posted on 10/12/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by Rinnwald ( Master of Triple-tap Double-action-fu)
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To: Rinnwald
de Molay

Now, how did that morph into that other organization.

24 posted on 10/12/2007 12:37:25 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: blue-duncan; P-Marlowe

LOL!

Hey, where’s the grand pooobah?! He the official officiant.


25 posted on 10/12/2007 12:39:43 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: rdl6989
...with a 5,900 euros (4,125 pounds) price tag.

I'll wait for the paperback version.

Yikes! Although it's probably that European thing where commas mean points and vice-versa. ;)

26 posted on 10/12/2007 12:51:56 PM PDT by Zero Sum (Marxism is the opiate of the masses.)
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To: mnehrling; uglybiker
"Ping for the nubile Hooter’s waitresses and ale."

Now, that's my kinda Knights Templar party ~ don't spare the ale!!

27 posted on 10/12/2007 1:04:00 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: xzins; blue-duncan

I’m being held hostage.

Quick, pay the ransom.


28 posted on 10/12/2007 1:16:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins

What is funny, is that this is all pretty much old news to those who study Medieval times.

There was a cheap little book about the Vatican secret archives that I picked up a few years ago. It was published some time in the 80’s, and it talked about this.


29 posted on 10/12/2007 4:37:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Steelerfan

I referred to the trial in a thread only to suggest possible motives for the Knights Templar having a chip on their shoulder against the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. I presumed their innocence of the charges for which they were tried, and that the trial had been unjust. Nonetheless, I was assailed by dozens of Free Masons for slandering them. Now to find out that they were considered guilty of quite heinious things, and the only portions of their offenses they were cleared on were purely the heresy charges which non-Catholics such as Free Masons should take as no vindication at all.

Of course, if they really had anything at all to do with Free Masonry, then they certainly were heretics after all.


30 posted on 10/12/2007 4:51:17 PM PDT by dangus
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To: hellbender

Yes. Bella Dodd testified to the Senate Committee in the 1950s and said that the Church was being infiltrated in the 1930s up to present day. The enemies of the Church must eliminate any document against themselves. How Orwellian. Perhaps look for a “Declaration on the Knights Templar” coming soon.


31 posted on 10/12/2007 6:43:28 PM PDT by LastCrusade (Vatican II Shipwreck http://www.novusordowatch.com/)
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To: Phsstpok

You’re absolutely right.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 7:10:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Salvation; NYer; ELS; kstewskis

PING ~~!


33 posted on 10/12/2007 7:12:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: dangus

>I referred to the trial in a thread only to suggest possible motives for the Knights Templar having a chip on their shoulder against the hierarchy of the Catholic Church.

Um, with all the burnings, torturing and confiscations, I think we might have to look for possible motives for the Roman Church for having a chip on their shoulder against the hierarchy of the Knights Templar, no? Last time I checked, the Templars didn’t do all the “Saddam-Husseining” to themselves...Or maybe they did just to make the Pope look bad...

...as for the Masons, we still need to ask them why Joseph Smith was killed.


34 posted on 10/12/2007 8:09:52 PM PDT by Ottofire (Works only reveal faith, just as fruits only show the tree, whether it is a good tree. -MLuther)
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To: xzins

If this is a real story I think it needs to be left at that. We (Catholics) do not need your belittling comments and no, I am not a conspirator.

Would you mind having the remark about the neener thread deleted please?


35 posted on 10/12/2007 8:21:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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What do you mean “if it’s a real story?” It’s carried on a number of outlets.

You probably need to take a nap.


36 posted on 10/12/2007 8:26:11 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: xzins
My respect for the author is diminished when he compares the Templars to the 'DiVinci Code'. It's like comparing the Mona Lisa to a coloring book, granted I haven't looked at a Mona Lisa much recently, nor that closely at the Templars.


37 posted on 10/12/2007 8:32:17 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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Vatican publishes Knights Templar papers
38 posted on 10/12/2007 9:43:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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So Deep The Crap Of Dan
39 posted on 10/12/2007 9:44:29 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: xzins
Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar

Is that enough proof for you that this is a REAL story and not a farce?

40 posted on 10/12/2007 9:46:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Phsstpok
It is precisely 700 years ago this week, Friday October 13, 1307, that . . .

Don't you get it?

That is WHY the Vatican did this today, on this date.

Sheesh, man, at least try to connect the dots!

41 posted on 10/12/2007 9:46:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Salvation
...and no, I am not a conspirator.

Shhhh...good job! Stick to the company line...

42 posted on 10/12/2007 9:49:03 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Salvation

In your own post, #36, you are the one who says, “IF this is a real story...”

I repeated that it was carried on a number of outlets.

This is getting eerie, Sav.


43 posted on 10/12/2007 9:49:06 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Salvation

correction

In your own post, #35, you are the one who says, “IF this is a real story...”

I repeated that it was carried on a number of outlets.

This is getting eerie, Sav.


44 posted on 10/12/2007 9:51:26 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: xzins
Considering it took the Vatican 500 years to admit Galileo was right the Templars should consider themselves lucky this is being done at all.

I suppose the next thing the Vatican will do is admit that there actually were more than 4 Apostles....

L

45 posted on 10/12/2007 9:51:46 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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Peter, Paul, & Mary

3

(The answer, my friend......)


46 posted on 10/12/2007 9:56:07 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Lurker
I suppose the next thing the Vatican will do is admit that there actually were more than 4 Apostles....

Paul was an apostle, so that makes at least 5...

47 posted on 10/13/2007 12:28:21 AM PDT by Iscool (REMEMBER all mushrooms are edible, some of them only once!)
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To: Ottofire
If you bothered to check at all you would know that it was the French king and not the Church that attacked the Templars. Although Pope Clement’s succumbing to the pressure of King Phillip to disband the Templars may not be commendable, to transfer the crimes of the French king to the Church is not honest.
48 posted on 10/13/2007 5:11:02 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Phsstpok

Liberals still practice this kind of lying. It’s called “projection.” Accuse your enemies of your own crimes (or sins) and they can’t then credibly bring out the truth against you. It’s where the “they all do it” defense came from.

Wow how many times have we witness this charade be practiced!

Maybe someday enough will read “The Secret of the Zodiac” it has nothing to do with Zodiac as one would think, it has to do with opposition whom we have always been shadow boxing!

Every thing the media and the left political leaders are doing can be read in this book and why!

Only it was explain so clearly in a 1930 novel!

I see Amazon has it for sale but I know where you can get copies for $5 dollars. What a rip off for Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Zodiac-1930-Julian-Sterne/dp/1417979445

We have to identify our enemy before the public understands who and what we are fighting!

Today because of the lack of history in many ways the public is clueless and can not maintain attention because they can not relate to the fact that they are in an awful situation in the struggle for civilization.


49 posted on 10/13/2007 5:24:14 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing! Press Forward Mitt!)
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To: Petronski
Don't you get it?

That is WHY the Vatican did this today, on this date.

Sheesh, man, at least try to connect the dots!

um, that was my point. Try reading the post.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

50 posted on 10/13/2007 5:42:09 AM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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