Posted on 10/25/2007 9:24:05 AM PDT by NYer
The Other Christ: Padre Pio and 19th Century Italy, by the historian Sergio Luzzatto, draws on a document found in the Vatican's archive.
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The document reveals the testimony of a pharmacist who said that the young Padre Pio bought four grams of carbolic acid in 1919.
"I was an admirer of Padre Pio and I met him for the first time on 31 July 1919," wrote Maria De Vito.
She claimed to have spent a month with the priest in the southern town of San Giovanni Rotondo, seeing him often.
"Padre Pio called me to him in complete secrecy and telling me not to tell his fellow brothers, he gave me personally an empty bottle, and asked if I would act as a chauffeur to transport it back from Foggia to San Giovanni Rotondo with four grams of pure carbolic acid.
"He explained that the acid was for disinfecting syringes for injections. He also asked for other things, such as Valda pastilles."
The testimony was originally presented to the Vatican by the Archbishop of Manfredonia, Pasquale Gagliardi, as proof that Padre Pio caused his own stigmata with acid.
It was examined by the Holy See during the beatification process of Padre Pio and apparently dismissed.
Padre Pio, whose real name was Francesco Forgione, died in 1968. He was made a saint in 2002. A recent survey in Italy showed that more people prayed to him than to Jesus or the Virgin Mary. He exhibited stigmata throughout his life, starting in 1911.
The new allegations were greeted with an instant dismissal from his supporters. The Catholic Anti-Defamation League said Mr Luzzatto was a liar and was "spreading anti-Catholic libels".
Pietro Siffi, the president of the League, said: "We would like to remind Mr Luzzatto that according to Catholic doctrine, canonisation carries with it papal infallibility.
"We would like to suggest to Mr Luzzatto that he dedicates his energies to studying religion properly."
"Oh death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"
I think we come about our "failure to understand" that "divide" pretty honestly. In fact, we reject it outright.
Look up the meaning of "latria" and "dulia". It's a translation problem.
“My mother passed away this morning...”
God Bless you and your family.
When is the Joyful Mass of the Resurrection? I was thinking at Adoration about an hour ago beautiful our heavenly home must be!
I’ll pray for your mother tonight during rosary.
"All 'his' own perception"; doesn't make it true. He is stating his own opinion, not church doctrine. Mary called God her savior in the Magnificant. She is not the co-Redeemer. She is a sinner saved by grace....and by grace alone.
Yes, because He did so preemptively.
She is not the co-Redeemer.
Nor does the Catholic Church teach that.
She is a sinner saved by grace....and by grace alone.
Nope, she never sinned, though grace touched her life like none other.
Rufus T. Firefly???
Sorry; couldn't resist!
I suspect the point of the original accusation is that he could have been applying it to his hands, creating the burns that would then be considered stigmata. Purchasing it and swearing the seller to secrecy suggests this. But, the lack of burns or scars at death suggests against this.
Not so. It’s a weak acid but a strong corrosive. It can cause serious burns. It’s much more dangerous than its modest pKa suggests.
Prayers going up for peace, tiki.
Hail, Hail Freedonia, land of the free and the brave!
I hope you escaped the effects of the inferno.
Hey and how about this one?
John 3:36 states that he who believes has eternal life.
So what is eternal life if all those people in heaven are dead?
It’s quite curious. It’s kind of like an amalgam of the historical Christian teaching of “communion of Saints” and the very non-historic teaching of “soul sleep”. Very odd.
I got laughed at here and got a Protestant Ping for a pile on because I said that my dear departed mother watches over my children.
It gave me a whole new perspective on “Christian Charity”.
I’ve even met a man who dresses like a Catholic priest just so that he can, well, I’m not sure. But, he doesn’t believe in the Teachings of Christ. Perhaps that’s the desire of taking a name that is solidly Catholic; yet, turning discussions against Catholic Teaching. Perhaps it’s unconscious in this case, or just a real admiration for a Catholic writer.
That is very sad yes; prayers for and God Bless your mother.
Sin is described as violating the law,
54. Q. What is mortal sin?
A. Mortal sin is a grievous offense against the law of God.
57. Q. What is venial sin?
A. Venial sin is a slight offense against the law of Godin matters of less importance; or in matters of great importance it is an offence committed with out sufficient reflection or full consent of the will.
Your church teaches only Jesus "kept the law perfectly"
578 Jesus, Israel's Messiah and therefore the greatest in the kingdom of heaven, was to fulfill the Law by keeping it in its all embracing detail - according to his own words, down to "the least of these commandments".330 He is in fact the only one who could keep it perfectly.
So Mary could NOT have been sinless right?
I found some of the bilocation experiences.
One of the incidents I remember hearing was at Communion a woman was kneeling at the far end of the rail and looked up to see Padre Pio offering the Eucharist, which she took, but she was startled because he was also at the other end of the rail at the same time giving Communion.
The other was the Nazi bombers who were over his town and were frightened to see him in the air, so frightened they turned around and went back to their base.
http://www.padrepio.catholicwebservices.com/ENGLISH/Bilo.htm
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