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End Times Prophetic Scriptures Of Isaiah [Caucus of Charismatics, Pentecostals & Dispys]
THE MESSAGE and AMPLIFIED BIBLE VERSIONS | 1 NOV 2007 | Bible & Quix

Posted on 11/01/2007 9:24:08 PM PDT by Quix

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To: Uncle Chip

I think the Amplified provides a balance to that aspect of THE MESSAGE.


41 posted on 11/19/2007 7:15:33 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings

gentile believers...hence christians...you see there are distinctions...to say all gentiles are grafted in would say that all gentiles are saved....the tree represents Gods chosen people....the graft represents the church....only those saved through grace are going to be grafted in.....hence it is save to say only christians will be grafted in.


42 posted on 11/19/2007 7:22:47 AM PST by meganoita
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To: Quix

im sorry but if your going to study biblical prophecy your going to need a real bible..not someones opinion on the matter....word for word translation would then obviously be the best thing and what other than the NASB or MKJV offers that?


43 posted on 11/19/2007 7:22:48 AM PST by meganoita
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To: meganoita

You may be mixing threads up.

This is a caucus thread . . . not for contentious postings etc.


44 posted on 11/19/2007 7:26:57 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: meganoita

I respect your opinion.

And do not wish to make this caucus thread contentious about translations.

There are at least as many opinions about translations as there are translations.

There are threads about such.

I believe each translation is BOTH translation AND paraphrase. It’s impossible to translate without paraphrasing.

I believe each quality effort offers nuances others have missed here and there.

The best translations are still OPINIONS on the matter. I don’t find COMMITTEES opinions necessarily more accurate, faithful to the original or anointed.

Perhaps you’d like to start a prophecy thread using your preferred translations.


45 posted on 11/19/2007 7:31:56 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: meganoita

And, I think it would be perfectly fine to offer verses from those translations

in a collaborative, mutually supportive exploring together dialogue hereon.


46 posted on 11/19/2007 7:53:26 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
In churches that I have been in, the Amplified was used by the women's groups because of its verbosity. It expounds on and expands the verses with words that may or may not be true to the text.

I always want to know what the original Author meant, not what the translator would like you to think he meant. The translator is supposed to remain faithful to the author's text, but so many translations today add to and take away from the text, like Luke 4:4.

I prefer a version that is as close as possible to the Traditional Greek and Hebrew Texts underlying the KJV and thus prefer the KJV.

47 posted on 11/19/2007 8:08:32 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Certainly don’t want a KJV only/bashing thread here.

KJV has translation problems, too. We don’t have the originals. All translations are flawed. All bring something to the table.

It’s not translations that lead us into all truth

. . . HOLY SPIRIT does that.


48 posted on 11/19/2007 8:18:59 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl

ping


49 posted on 11/19/2007 8:36:03 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
It’s not translations that lead us into all truth . . . HOLY SPIRIT does that.

Then why is there scripture at all??? And how would you be able to say that unless you read it in the scripture???

The scripture is a product of the Holy Spirit, and thus through scripture the Holy Spirit leads us to all truth.

Darth Vader said he would start a thread on this when he returns --

50 posted on 11/19/2007 8:39:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


51 posted on 11/19/2007 8:41:26 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Uncle Chip

Of course.

and

DarthVader’s thread would be more fitting.


52 posted on 11/19/2007 9:22:06 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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