Skip to comments.Single Word Change in Book of Mormon Speaks Volumes
Posted on 11/08/2007 5:23:05 PM PST by Colofornian
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Well, when one lie doesn’t work, you try another.
Please tell me you are not also a thief.
When did you stop beating your wife?
Please sir, could you give your qualifications to instruct the leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on what should be in the introduction of any book whatsoever that is published by the Church?
Isn’t it true that your opinion on the matter is so much Bravo Sierra?
she’s not a sir. a free fyi. :-)
***They were not lost, an angel of God took them back. Several people saw, touched, and lifted the plates.****
But when the witnesses were pressed about seeing the plates they admitted what they ACTUALLY saw was what appeared to be a book on a table, and the book was COVERED with a tablecloth.
another said it this way, “When a person who you know cannot tell a lie, and that person tells you of a certain city you have never been to, you can WITH THE EYE OF FAITH actually see that city.”
So, by their own testimonies later, they NEVER saw the golden plates.
founder Joseph Smith
The “founder” of Christianity is the Lord Jesus not joe smith from NY
****Perhaps they could. Why don’t you badger them until they do.***
Instead of badgering them, why don’t YOU tell us why the Jews have not had a Temple or a sacrifice for sin in the last 2000 years.
Inquiring minds want to know!
Why do you worship a human as God. Paganism.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Whatever. Elsie told Grig that Elsie was a male. Guess you can’t trust Elsie to tell the truth about anything.
The polygamist Mormon church president who died in 1945 named Heber J. Grant said, “Where are the men who have assailed this work?” I simply ask, “where are the men who are descendants of Fahter Lehi?” Nobody knows if any exist, period.
Facts are not cop outs. There are times President Bush’s press secretary is speaking on behalf of the administration and times he is not. Likewise there are times a prophet speaks on behalf of God and time he doesn’t.
It is also up to God, not you and not the President of the Church, to decide what to reveal to the church and when to do so. It is not necessary to document and publish every instance of the Holy Spirit confirming one plan or not, every moment of pure inspiration as they direct the day to day affairs of the church. To restore the fullness of the gospel took several stages and a lot of revelation, but now that the restoration is done there is little need for the revelation of doctrine of prophecy. The need is for members to live by what has already been given.
When there is something new that God wants the church to receive as doctrine or prophecy it will be received by the prophet, given unanimous consent by the 12 and the 70, then formally presented to the church and added to our scripture. Our scriptures say that God will not permit the President of the Church to lead the Church astray from the gospel so we are not out there looking for an excuse to point accusatory fingers at him.
Yes, physically, according to their testimony.
“When was that??”
Up until the time Peter got the vision to take the gospel to the Gentiles (see Acts 10).
You have been lied to and taught to like it. Of the ‘original’ witnesses, which ones did Joe Smith call liars and which ones recanted? You people can’t keep your stories straight, but then it doesn’t seem to matter to Mormonism adherents that their religious foundations have been shifting sands. Have a nice evening, Apologist. You’re spinning and it makes me dizzy. I don’t choose to deal with your garbage this evening. Maybe I’ll come back online later and shoot a few holes in your fables.
“Of course that explanation is almost impossible for most of us to verify.”
Copies of the 1840 edition still exist. For over 20 years we have been pointing out that the change comes from the 1840 edition but critics just ignore that fact and portray the 1980 edition as the first time pure was used there. What does that tell you?
“But when the witnesses were pressed about seeing the plates they admitted what they ACTUALLY saw was what appeared to be a book on a table, and the book was COVERED with a tablecloth.”
That was a time PRIOR to when they saw them, while the BoM was still being translated. Later they saw the plates firsthand and handled them and they were quite clear that they actually saw them.
“Gentlemen, do you see that hand? Are you sure you see it? Are your eyes playing a trick or something? No. Well, as sure as you see my hand so sure did I see the angel and the plates.” — Martin Harris
“The Book of Mormon is no fake. I know what I know. I have seen what I have seen and I have heard what I have heard. I have seen the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon is written. An angel appeared to me and others and testified to the truthfulness of the record, and had I been willing to have perjured myself and sworn falsely to the testimony I now bear I could have been a rich man, but I could not have testified other than I have done and am now doing for these things are true.” — Martin Harris (at his death)
“Of course we were in the spirit when we had the view, for no man can behold the face of an angel, except in a spiritual view, but we were in the body also, and everything was as natural to us, as it is at any time.” — David Whitmer
Once when David Whitmer was accused of being deluded into thinking he had seen an angel and the plates he reportedly said in reply “No sir! I was not under any hallucination, nor was I deceived! I saw with these eyes, and I heard with these ears! I know whereof I speak!”
Who has READ what G*D expects in an old Jewish covenant.
That's an udderly personal question.
Why do you Mormons call non-Mormons - Gentiles?