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Begging forgiveness of Islam? by JOSEPH FARAH
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58870 ^ | 11/29/07 | ALPHA-8-25-02

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:28:10 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02

Begging forgiveness of Islam? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: November 27, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern It was predictable in this age of wishful thinking. After 138 Muslim leaders last month wrote an open letter to Christendom calling ostensibly for peaceful coexistence and mutual understanding, self-proclaimed Christian leaders and other celebrity Christians took the bait. The appropriate response would have been to search their own Scriptures, to get down on their knees to beseech God to give them wisdom, to seek the counsel of others, particularly those expert on Islam, history and the persecution of the church in Muslim lands. Instead, some get-along-with-the-world Christians apologized for the past and current actions of their fellow churchmen in defending their lives and their beliefs against Islamic aggression and terror. Among more than 100 theologians, ministry leaders and prominent pastors, signing the letter were Jim Wallis, president of Sojourners, Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church and Leith Anderson, president of the National Association of Evangelicals. As a Christian myself, I want to make it very clear these men do not speak for me. More importantly, I do not believe they speak for Jesus. (Column continues below)-SNIP-

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: apostasy; ecumenism; farah; islam; jimwallis; muslim; purposedriven; rickwarren; sojourners; wallis

1 posted on 11/29/2007 6:28:11 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02
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To: All

COMMENTS?


2 posted on 11/29/2007 6:29:18 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02
We in western Christendome will, if pushed hard, hunt down attackers form the Muslim world and kill them like pigs to save our families and culture.

Again.

I want to beg the Muslims for forgiveness if I haven't made it clear that this is so.

Semper Fidelis

3 posted on 11/29/2007 6:47:30 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: MrEdd

SEMPER FIDELIS BROTHER.

GREAT TAG-LINE!


4 posted on 11/29/2007 6:51:35 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02
Amen to all Farrah writes.

Islam is about total domination, submission or surrender, maltreatment and/or death to us "infidels."

The "god" they worship does NOT send his son to die for the sins of mankind, he demands blood of non-believers and none of his adherents know until after death, whether he will allow them into Paradise (though they are assured a spot by him should they die while killing infidels.)

>Not exactly a "religion" with which I can find "common ground."

5 posted on 11/29/2007 7:04:39 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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No way I’m ever kowtowing to some moon god. P#ss off muzzies. I’ve seen your handiwork, heard your lies and read your lousy bloody history. You’ll have to kill me first. Hey Semper Fi’s, pass the ammo! they’re not taking this old grunt without a fight....no “chop chop square” coming at a mall near me...danged pagan idol worshipers.


6 posted on 11/29/2007 7:31:59 AM PST by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: zerosix

Allah <> YHWH


7 posted on 11/29/2007 7:44:15 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

No common ground there. It’s like comparing the nature and behavior of Bill Clinton with that of Ronald Reagan, both of whom were referred to as President of the United States. Hardly a proof of sameness.


8 posted on 11/29/2007 8:32:45 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: MrEdd
"<>" is the same as saying "does not equal" -

YHWH is a personal God, who is relational - in perfect relationship in the Trinity

Allah is an impersonal being. Allah is not relational. There is no "love" in Allah.

Categorically, they are different beings.

9 posted on 11/29/2007 10:17:52 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper
Categorically, they are different beings.

Gee...Why can't Warren or Hybels discern the difference?

10 posted on 11/30/2007 6:39:59 AM PST by pby
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To: alpha-8-25-02; Gamecock; Lee N. Field; HarleyD; TommyDale; Alex Murphy; shaggy eel; My2Cents; ...
PING!!!

This article was also posted at Christian Research Network

under the title "Rick Warren's Inquisition"

I like their comparison to this buddying up to Islam and every other religion under the sun, BUT...

In ironic contrast, Rick Warren advises:

"You’ve got to protect the unity of your church. If that means getting rid of troublemakers, do it." "As pastors, as shepherds of God’s people, it’s our job to protect our congregations from Satan’s greatest weapon – disunity," he writes. "It’s not always easy, but it’s what we’ve been called to do…"

They go on:

…Has it ever occurred to Rick Warren that pastors have been wrong? Has it ever occurred to Rick Warren that pastors might teach unbiblical principles? Has it ever occurred to Rick Warren no earthly pastor is the recipient of all Divine revelation? Has it ever occurred to Rick Warren that pastors have led entire flocks into grave error that may have eternal consequences?
Has it ever occurred to Rick Warren that he, too, might be capable of such mistakes?

Rick Warren makes a spiritually fatal error when he proclaims, without any biblical authority, that Satan’s greatest weapon is disunity. That is simply not true. The Bible reveals over and over again that even one spirit-filled believer can stand up against Satan. God is not impressed with numbers. He doesn’t need numbers for victory. He doesn’t care about big churches. He doesn’t care about the cathedrals of men. He wants numbers only because He is "not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).

No, Satan’s greatest weapon is hardly disunity. His greatest weapon since his fall and since the Garden of Eden has been deception. In fact, Satan loves unity – as long as those unified are knowingly or unknowingly serving him. He’d love for all of us to "go to hell in a handbasket."

Read the rest of Joseph Farah’s commentary here…

See related articles Satan’s Greatest Weapon: Disunity? , SBC President Not Interested In the Victims of Purpose Driven, Unity In The Teaching of Apostolic Truth Yields Godly Love , Rick Warren, Evangelicals, Invite Muslims to Love God Together** , Begging forgiveness of Islam?

11 posted on 11/30/2007 8:36:55 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: MrEdd

I pray you are still correct...


12 posted on 11/30/2007 8:37:25 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: LiteKeeper; MrEdd
Perhaps you mean

Allah ≠ YHWH

13 posted on 11/30/2007 8:41:05 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: pby
Gee...Why can't Warren or Hybels discern the difference?

Is that a trick question? :-)

14 posted on 11/30/2007 8:41:53 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Satan himself will be needing a parka before I would ever apologize to anyone from the cult of murders.


15 posted on 11/30/2007 8:58:14 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: Terriergal

Same thing


16 posted on 11/30/2007 9:24:52 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Terriergal

Warren is making the same mistake that clerics often makes, which is to think they can control the way the men see God. They must teach the truth and pray that we learn.


17 posted on 11/30/2007 9:33:11 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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