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Our Lady of Guadalupe called 'Mother Without Borders' in Los Angeles (Catholic Caucus)
CNS ^ | Dec-5-2007 | Ellie Hidalgo

Posted on 12/07/2007 1:39:18 PM PST by Coleus

Thousands of Catholics from throughout the greater Los Angeles area gathered in East Los Angeles Dec. 2 to honor Our Lady of Guadalupe as the mother of all peoples -- from every language, race and culture. A mile-long procession, the oldest religious procession in the city honoring Mary, led participants to East Los Angeles College Stadium, where Cardinal Roger M. Mahony and the auxiliary bishops of Los Angeles, numerous priests and more than 15,000 of the faithful gathered for Mass.

The theme this year was "Mother Without Borders: Bringing Down the Walls of Injustice." The event was part of a statewide call to action for comprehensive immigration reform by the California Catholic Conference of Bishops. "The Virgin of Guadalupe is a symbol of hope and compassion for all who are marginalized," said the cardinal. "Today she continues to unite us as a humble people of God in search for understanding, compassion, peace and human dignity for all -- especially for our immigrant brothers and sisters who are being kept in the margins of society by a broken immigration system."

For the procession, which began near La Soledad Church on Cesar Chavez Avenue, scores of churches decorated banners and colorful floats. Aztec dancers and parishioners wore indigenous and multiethnic dress, many bearing images of Our Lady of Guadalupe, the patroness of the Americas. The annual celebration recalls the miraculous apparitions of the brown-skinned Virgin Mary to St. Juan Diego at Tepeyac, Mexico, in December 1531. She left her image on his "tilma" or cloak.

For 476 years her image has been a symbol of unity, peace, compassion and hope for people around the world. This year's "Mother Without Borders" theme resonated with immigrant communities living in fear of workplace raids, deportations and family separation. In his homily, Los Angeles Auxiliary Bishop Gabino Zavala, speaking in English and Spanish, called on all Californians to work toward immigration reform.

"I want to welcome in a special way those of you who are English-speaking, because you understand that Our Lady of Guadalupe -- her message, her love -- is not only for those of Spanish language and culture. But she is the mother of all of us, of every language, every race, every culture," Bishop Zavala said to applause. "Immigration is today's sword, and it must be turned into a plowshare -- an instrument that prunes away all the injustices and serves to cultivate right relationship among nations and peoples," the bishop continued.

California's Catholic bishops have called "for just and humane immigration reform," he said. "As those who have faith in Our Lady of Guadalupe I call you to join us today in demanding immigration legislation that allows us to transcend borders and break down the walls of injustice," Bishop Zavala said. Those walls "view human beings as illegal" and "view undocumented immigrants as criminals, subjecting them to imprisonment and deportation and leaving them without any possibilities of becoming United States citizens," he said.

Among various measures, Bishop Zavala urged immigration legislation that would provide a legal path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants working and living in the United States and would prioritize the reunification of families separated because of mixed immigration status. Among the thousands of Southern Californians participating in the procession and liturgy was Maria Antonio Rodriguez, a parishioner at St. Anne Church in Santa Monica. She said she was there to affirm her belief that all people are human beings and no one should suffer discrimination.

"I am praying to Our Lady of Guadalupe, that through her people's hearts may be moved, the ones that are putting up the walls," Rodriguez told The Tidings, newspaper of the Los Angeles Archdiocese. "I hope they can change their point of view." Juan Sanchez, 19, attended with a dozen family members. A parishioner at St. Matthias Church in Huntington Park, Sanchez said he was there to celebrate how Mary brings all people together. "If everyone believes in her, then there are no borders with her," said the youth.

Dr. Truc Truong, a physician and parishioner at St. John Neumann in Irvine and St. Cecilia in Tustin, donated the thousands of red and peach roses that surrounded the images of Our Lady of Guadalupe and St. Juan Diego near the altar on the stadium field. A Vietnamese-American immigrant who came to the U.S. in 1975, Truong has been donating 2,000 roses weekly to be placed at the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe at Hombre Nuevo, a Catholic multimedia center in El Monte. "Our Lady of Guadalupe is the mother of every single nation, country and every single one of us," said Truong. "The Son of God and the mother of God -- they are together. You can't separate them. She intervenes for us."


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: bishopzavala; cardinalmahony; catholicconference; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; invaders; mahony
talk about inculcating left-wing, marxist politics and paganism into the faithful. I wonder if the Catholic Conference works as hard to get pro-life politicians elected. I bet not.
1 posted on 12/07/2007 1:39:19 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
As a Los Angeles Catholic I ask must this Mahoney offend at every turn? I feel so very angry and sad when these sort of events and policies go against our American laws (previous stands on protecting/supporting and even hiding illegals etc) and get political. It makes it very difficult to feel connected to the larger diocese and to feel renewed at at peace with my own church. Very sad. This is no mistake and that is what makes it so very malicious. If it was an honoring without all the political connotations that would be quite another thing, but sadly it is not. This man should be given the big boot.
2 posted on 12/07/2007 1:50:42 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Coleus

EXACTLY!


3 posted on 12/07/2007 1:51:37 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

Amen to that.
Mahony is a poor excuse for a bishop.
There is no way I would support the LA diocese in any way.


4 posted on 12/07/2007 1:54:58 PM PST by rogator
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To: Coleus; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


5 posted on 12/07/2007 1:58:05 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx

Ping.


6 posted on 12/07/2007 2:05:52 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: rogator

Should have been removed when he refused to provide evidence to the DA on the abuse cases dragging out the sordid affair for years.


7 posted on 12/07/2007 2:08:42 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: Coleus; GOP Poet; rogator; NYer
I don't understand why Our Lady of Guadalupe (whom I love) has to be "interpreted" in terms of corrupt liberal politics.

Home and family. The people who crossed the border via fraud, trespass, or trafficking, or remained in the USA using forged papers and stolen identities, have homes and families in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador. We should respectfully send them back. They should respectfully go.

Care and compassion. There's no need to be callous toward a person who is sick and hungry. Give them some food and decent clothing for their bus trip south. Notify a Mexican hospital that they're on their way.

Patience and kindness. What if it's a case of somebody's immigration status being screwed up by some inadvertent paperwork mistake or U.S. bureaucratic blunder? Fine. They need some assistance. In the meantime they can stay as guests at Roger Mahony's place, 3424 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90010-2241.

I am not being sarcastic about this. We can have a decent and lawful society, show sincere care for human needs, fight the cruelty of crime and corruption, and even give honest people a path to U.S. citizenship --- a path that starts back in Tegucigalpa or Michoacan --- all under the patronage of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

We're not wrong for wanting to do it right.

8 posted on 12/07/2007 2:20:57 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Senora de Guadalupe, ayudanos.)
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To: Coleus
Ummm... I think the message was come to Tepeyac, not the reverse.


9 posted on 12/07/2007 2:30:17 PM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: Coleus
I don't know if this fits here, but the anti-immigration sentiments are disturbing. I've felt that leftwing agitators targeting immigrants, and it is their escapades that make the headlines. Almost all Mexican immigrants I've met on the east coast are decent people who work hard and have a picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe somewhere conspicuous.

I believe that Our Lady of Guadalupe has very special intentions for these people, and that, as "immigration waves" go, they may be the best thing that happened to America in some time.

The Blessed Mother is after all Patroness of the Americas. And I am very grateful for that. I trust her protection.

10 posted on 12/07/2007 3:11:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We can have a decent and lawful society, show sincere care for human needs, fight the cruelty of crime and corruption, and even give honest people a path to U.S. citizenship --- a path that starts back in Tegucigalpa or Michoacan --- all under the patronage of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

I agree, 100%. I *cannot* understand why the Catholic heirarchy supports the exploitation of illegal immigrant labor by American employers. (The same economic illiterates support driving up the cost of American labor through minimum wage increases, benefit mandates, etc., etc. ... I'd like to beat them over the head with "Basic Economics" until they see some sense ... but I digress.)

Don't they see that this is, effectively, enslaving the migrant for the benefit of the citizen, which the Bible explicitly condemns?

11 posted on 12/07/2007 3:58:20 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I am personally very toward Central American immigration. Nations that will not welcome babies are generally obliged to welcome immigrants. Considering that we aborted 40 million American babies in the last 34 years, if they are replaced 1-for-1 with Spanish-speaking Christians from the hemispheric South, we will be very fortunte indeed, and getting far more than we deserve.

That would be lawful immigration I'm speaking of. I have very rarely heard conservatives speak out against orderly, decent, respectful, lawful immigrants. My parish has a lot of them. As for the lawbreakers, they might also someday be on the path to U.S. citizenship. That path starts in their home countries. Let them go home with our blessing and God's, and do it right next time.

12 posted on 12/07/2007 4:32:35 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dios te salve, Maria. Llena eres de gracia.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
That's "very favorable toward." Yeesh9, I hate tyops...
13 posted on 12/07/2007 4:34:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dios te salve, Maria. Llena eres de gracia.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Yeesh9

I could see Yeesh6 or 7, but you went all the way to 9. You might need to lay off the caffeine.

14 posted on 12/07/2007 5:33:44 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I agree. We have aborted so many of our own that unless Our Lady sends us new Christian people, we will be overrun by Muslims just as in Europe. And then we will disappear.

I have been very distressed by some of the hostility towards Latin Americans here, and even more distressed because a lot of it is really nothing but Protestants (probably mostly elderly) expressing their hatred of Catholics. I think many of these people would actually be happy to see more Muslims come into the US - anything but Latin American Catholics.


15 posted on 12/07/2007 5:59:52 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Do you really mean that? Also, a reminder that once you mention Protestants, you jeopardize the Caucus designation.


16 posted on 12/07/2007 6:02:25 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: livius

Our Lady won’t let us down.


17 posted on 12/07/2007 6:02:36 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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To: Coleus
 

Our Lady of Guadalupe - December 12DEVOTIONAL PRAYER TO OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE

O Virgin Mother of Guadalupe, you wanted to show your compassion to all who solicit your help. Hear the petitions we present to you.

Patroness of the Philippines, we pray for peace, justice and prosperity for our country and for all the countries of the world. Mother of fair love, protect our families. Keep them united in love and watch over our children. Put an end to the sacrifice of innocent lives as you did in Mexico.

Mother of the Church, grant us abundant vocations of priests, religious and laity. We pray to you especially for our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, and all bishops. Grant us a great love for all the sacraments, the signs of God's great mercy.

Thus we will be able to bring all, true peace through Our Lord Jesus Christ, who with God the Father and the Holy Spirit, lives and reign forever and ever.

                                                            Amen.


18 posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:06 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus
Hernándo Cortés and Our Lady

Scientists certify Our Lady of Guadalupe tilma

STRANGE LIGHT CLAIMED IN GUADALUPE IMAGE AFTER MEXICO CITY OKAYED ABORTION

STRANGE LIGHT CLAIMED IN GUADALUPE IMAGE AFTER MEXICO CITY OKAYED ABORTION -- posted on News Forum

The Story of Guadalupe: Hope for Our Violent World

Our Lady of Guadalupe: Protectress of the Unborn

Was Our Lady of Guadalupe Wrong?

A Novena to Our Lady of Guadalupe

Relic From Guadalupe Tilma to Tour U.S.

The Amazing Truth of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Our Lady Of Guadalupe

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Science Stunned by Virgin of Guadalupe´s Eyes

OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE [Read only]

19 posted on 12/07/2007 8:14:07 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus

This article is indicative of exactly why I don’t have a devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe. I really abhor the notion that every illegal that has an Our Lady of Guadalupe sticker on the back of their truck is a great person. Perhaps that’s the cynicism of living in Houston speaking, but it’s the reality here in town.

It’s a fashion statement on the young women here and a car adornment for the men. I don’t see it as a devotion in many of the Hispanics here in town, so much as a “La Raza” statement.


20 posted on 12/07/2007 9:26:54 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: GOP Poet

Mahoney wants justice? Let him lead a demonstartion in Mexico City to demand that the bloodsuckers take care of their own people and not send them north to invade the United States.


21 posted on 12/07/2007 10:09:06 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: livius

My hostility is directed at the government of Mexico, which as always been controlled by a selfish elite that refuses to share the great wealth of the country with their own people. The only thing that keeps Mexico from being as rich as the United States is bad government. They were better governed by the Peninsulares.


22 posted on 12/07/2007 10:13:48 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Coleus

***Thousands of Catholics from throughout the greater Los Angeles area gathered in East Los Angeles Dec. 2 to honor Our Lady of Guadalupe***

Dec. 2 is not even the right day for Our Lady of Guadalupe - it’s the 12th! I guess someone got mixed up...


23 posted on 12/08/2007 7:32:00 AM PST by nanetteclaret ("I will sing praise to my God while I have my being." Psalm 104:33b)
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To: the invisib1e hand

When I hit Yeesh9, you know I need to take the rest of the day off.


24 posted on 12/08/2007 4:23:01 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dios te salve, Maria. Llena eres de gracia.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
On several levels the Bishop is right. The first level is unfortunately one over which he has no jurisdiction or control. And that is the impending North American Union.

There is soon to be no distiction between Mexico, Canada and the USA. And if Vincente Fox(CNN 10/8/07) is correct we will have a common currency by 2010. These Mexicans are our fellow Catholics and if God sees fit to punish this great land of ours because of our hedonistic culture I look forward to a huge influx of Catholics taking over. Our country which is still the greatest in the world is basicall Protestant and therefore flawed in my humble opinion. Attacking Bishops is not necessary. Jesus, I trust in You!

25 posted on 12/09/2007 4:58:27 AM PST by RichardMoore (MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! Jesus, I trust in You!)
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To: Aggie Mama
"It’s a fashion statement on the young women here and a car adornment for the men. I don’t see it as a devotion in many of the Hispanics here in town, so much as a “La Raza” statement."

Well, there's no way to gauge the individual devotion, but an image of Our Lady of Guadalupe might also be a way to say "Soy Catolico!" and ward off the Assemblias de Deos and the Jay Dubs.

I have no hostility toward Mexicans; I enjoy my Guadalupe-loving Latino fellow parishioners. I do have a amajor hostility toward the employers who use these people as low-paid field labor or swweatshop peons, and especially toward the $*&^*#^*% US government across the decades, both Democrat and Republican, which has neglected and/or protected this massive human dislocation and corruption until the situation got big enough to explode.

26 posted on 12/09/2007 5:33:08 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: RobbyS
They were better governed by the Peninsulares.

LOL! I agree...and don't forget that Mexico (modern Mexico) is technically a socialist country, as a result of its "revolution." That does a lot to explain its problems.

27 posted on 12/09/2007 6:16:06 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
I agree. We have aborted so many of our own that unless Our Lady sends us new Christian people, we will be overrun by Muslims just as in Europe. And then we will disappear.

I have been very distressed by some of the hostility towards Latin Americans here, and even more distressed because a lot of it is really nothing but Protestants (probably mostly elderly) expressing their hatred of Catholics. I think many of these people would actually be happy to see more Muslims come into the US - anything but Latin American Catholics.

So you've never heard of Pat Buchanan or Joe Sobran?

28 posted on 12/09/2007 7:28:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayo'mer "'Ani Yosef 'achiykhem 'asher-mekhartem 'oti Mitzraymah.")
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To: livius

To put things into perspective, people should bear in mind that the Europeans in the West are uncomfortable with the migration of Christians from the east. So it is not just the Muslims that are giving them heartburn.


29 posted on 12/09/2007 8:51:55 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Oh, I forgot to mention nutcases...


30 posted on 12/09/2007 11:57:33 AM PST by livius
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