Posted on 12/31/2007 5:40:23 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD
So last night (Sunday, 12/30/07) I get ready in front of the T.V. at 8 p.m. with my son to watch the very much hyped documentary on the History Channel titled "How The Earth Was Made". Since my son is a first-grader and very much into science, his main interests include Earth and the entire Solar System.
The two-hour documentary was fantastic, but it raised a key question in my mind and it made me, shall I say, more of a believer in God as Our Creator (not that I ever stopped 'believing', but I'm an open-minded person who believes both in evolution and creationism). However, this show changed my views. Let me explain:
Many of the scientists interviewed (and they had on the best scientists in the world) couldn't explain how water got to Earth. Or how Earth created water. So, they proposed that perhaps the water source came from outer space in asteroids. Because asteroids contain moisture, they stated that these massive rocks from outer space (many of them the length and width of Mt. Everest) created water after the hit the Earth.
Baloney. It is so obvious that none of these scientists want to admit that God was the creator of water and of everything that flourishes in this planet. They should would not or could not state it on the program.
Even my grandmother -- who is 96 years of age and saw the program in Puerto Rico -- said to me this morning that she thought the program lacked "any mention of God".
Anyone else see this show last night?
two words...
“Big Bang”
Yeah I’ve watched it twice and liked it.
I don’t have any conflicts over religious belief or scientific belief. Sure God created it all, by what process is a whole different question.
Lets not forget that the genesis of the whole big bang theory was a Catholic priest and scientist.
That is a joke. I hope.
Water did not “get” here, it was formed here.
So, with a solar system filled to the brim with comets made up mostly of water ice, if someone tells you meteorites brought in the water, I'd suggest he or she hadn't thought about it too much.
No doubt God created this part of the Multiverse.
Well, yes, I know, but the way that these scientists were explaining it — it appears that water got here through an alien source - asteroids.
I don’t buy it.
I don’t buy it.
I never did either. Some scientists are not smart.
Happy New Year, BTW. - Bill
[I don’t have any conflicts over religious belief or scientific belief. Sure God created it all, by what process is a whole different question.]
I am a degreed physicist and I, too, have no trouble with anyone’s God belief and science. Afterall, no one was here to winess and I can accept what I see. Any rational (read RATIONAL) discussion within scientific boundaries is fine with me.
YEC INTREP
You are aware, of course, that the fuzzy wuzzies and the mullahs don’t want you asking “how” either.
One thing I liked about the show was the fact that they didn’t seem to state that it was all fact. A very large portion of science is theoretical and a good scientist can admit that.
Stating theory as fact is one of the things that concern me about manmade global warming hysteria. I fear that it gives all science a bad name in the eyes of the public.
How the earth was made!
Having a fairly competent grasp of English, I couldn't believe it when I first saw it.
Why not take up thinking, instead?
The funniest words for those Einsteins who insist on making a adversary controversy out of the discussion:
"First there was nothing...
...and then it exploded."
God’s what?
One of the three fundamental flaws to all the ‘theories’ you have just pointed out.
1) There had to be something there to explode.
2) The laws of physics have to be suspended for the explosion to occur. There is this little thing called an event horizon that has to be surpassed before matter could actually get out of the pull of the supermass. Otherwise, you have the ‘Big Puff’ not the ‘Big Bang’. However, all the scientific ‘evidence’ to the length of this time of no laws/reverse laws is still not long enough before the event horizon to kick in and suck everything back in.
3) The original poster’s comment about water is part three of the three flaws. The spinning velocity needed for the Earth to form from gas is too fast for water to have remained on the exterior of the surface, and not instead be trapped in the interior.
“How the earth was made?”
So there were eyewitnesses, previously unknown, now coming forward? /sarc off
At best interesting academic questions and speculations which prove nothing. Someday we might land on Mars or even leave the solar system, but we will never know how the earth was made.
This “science” is mostly a Trojan Horse for secularism.
Yes I saw it. They forgot the one about: If God made the earth, what did he stand on. Some of their ideas were on a par with that.Notice all their brainstorms try to avoid God as the great creator.
IAC, more humility is in order. Visting the McDonald obsrvatory years ago, I saw a video that made an indelible impression. An animation showed the necessity of the magnetic field that surrounds Earth. There it was, a tiny planet bathed in fire from the sun, and protected from incineration by its magnetic field. Here we are, tiny creatures on a speck of matter in the universe. YET we are able to speculate and to pretend to comprehend all the vastness of a universe that seems to grow exponentially as our telescopes—and our minds—reach out and out. These ARE god-like powers. Where do they come from?
That's a good start to awakening.
Gen 1 By Periods* God created that which produced the Solar Systems; then that which produced the Earth. 2 But the Earth was unorganised and empty; and darkness covered its convulsed surface; while the breath of God rocked the surface of its waters. 3 God then said, "Let there be light;" and light came. 4 And God gazed upon that beautiful light; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And to the light God gave name of Day, and to the darkness He gave the name of Night. This was the close and the dawn of the first age.
*Literally "By Headships." It is curious that all translators from the Septugint have rendered this word, B'reshith, into the singular, although it is plural in the Hebrew. So I rendered it accurately. --F.F.
One will never be awakened by an idol.
The old testament is original in the Hebrew, so the Greek is a translation then another translation. I only adhere to the Hebrew text and it does not give rise to ages.
IMHO A limiting belief but hey that's only my mind talking and what is mind but an idol?
[The Bible is literal and should be taken as such, ]
That is where we differ and that is all I have to say on the subject.
Then why say anything at all?
Is that all you have to say on the subject?
Here’s something interesting about the Big Bang.
About 300,000 years after the BB, Hydrogen and Helium atoms started forming and the cosmic microwave background radiation was released.
The explosion was still preceding outwards at near the speed of light at the time, but the entire universe was contained in an area a little bigger than the Milky Way.
100 billion galaxies of matter all contained in an area a little bigger than the Milky Way - all proceeding outward at near the speed of light.
How come gravity did not take over at this point. How come stars were not already forming at this point. 100 billion galaxies of matter in a space less than 300,000 light years across results in a lot of gravity.
Even Einstein had a problem with the Big Bang, because it required him to admit that there was a beginning and he was a deist.
Take a look at the Anthropic Principle, which incorporates some of evolution with a design element and it makes more sense.
Scientists (atheist scientists, anyway) grasp at all kinds of theories to avoid the God concept. Hawking, for example, postulates that there are multiple universes so that the most improbably thing would eventually happen in one of them and thus create itself.
No one can explain why a mass of gas would explode and create matter out of it and why life emerged from non life. To suggest that we are a big cosmic accident takes a lot more faith than a belief in purpose, don’t you think?
Jesus taught in parables (metaphors), thus proving that the Bible is not always literal.
Not if, but how He did it.
Guillermo Gonzalez & Jay W Richards, The Privileged Planet: How Our Place In The Cosmos Is Designed For Discovery
Great book and video.
Science and God. All Good to You and Yours.
did they explain how water got on the asteroids, since they did not exist prior to the exploding nothingness of the Big Bang?
and the NT is largely Aramiac, since the apostles did not speak Greek. The primacy of the language is a source of contention for some scholars, but if you look at the aramaic to english translations, you can reason that they were first.
No.
typical. just ignore whatever you can’t explain and rationalize the rest. Sad what “science” has become.
True.
They might “speculate” that the asteroids became moist in outer space because of the unbelievable cold temperatures. However, that “speculation” would be shot to hell if someone in the science community states that it is impossible for asteroids to continue to carry moisture if they are flying at the speed of light. Thus, at such high travel speed the temps could become hot within the ‘roid itself, killing all moistureness.
Explaining this is like explaining the Constitution or the Bible. Everyone interprets it as he or she wishes or desires, to cater to their own beliefs.
It struck me like a ton of bricks when I heard that scientist on Sunday night speculate about whether or not the ‘roids carried moisture. You could tell in his face that he was trying to feed the viewer some bullshit story.
Yep.
Read my post again. I talked of the new testament in Greek...I stated he did the same in the Old Testament with the original language which was Hebrew. You have missed my point. Blessings....
Who is this Ferrar Fenton? Did he hold hold a job, have friends, wife and kids?
That’s cool.
Four words: “In the beginning God...”
~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~
The solar system is a condensation driven by the gravitational force from the remnants of a super nova explosion. Oxygen is one of the resultant elements that was created in the star before it blew. The oxygen would easily combine with hydrogen to form water. The formation of Earth as a condensation from the remnants of that super nova, would have included the interstellar water also. See this link for a survey of interstellar H2O.
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