Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Mad Dawg
One question to ask here is, "Did Jesus 'really' suffer?"

In answer to that I have to ask another question? Why would he want to? Why would the Son of God want to further the physical ego illusion of the body thru an example of suffering? Why would Jesus want to set such an example for his students?

To demonstrate Love?

To lock mankind into an illusion?

I believe that the answer is he didn't and that this emphasis was added after his "death" and "resurrection" by followers as opposed to students. I believe that's the real meaning of the cruxcifiction the body can be left behind while the spirit continues; this is when we enter into the body of Christ.

139 posted on 01/06/2008 7:03:04 PM PST by ninonitti
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies ]


To: ninonitti

“In answer to that I have to ask another question? Why would he want to? Why would the Son of God want to further the physical ego illusion of the body thru an example of suffering? Why would Jesus want to set such an example for his students?”

So, you never heard of redemptive suffering? It’s not that he wanted to suffer; it was necessary.

Your fundamental error seems to be this Satanic delusion that the real world is illusory. You need to go back and read Descartes’ refutation of the notion that God is an evil deceiver.


146 posted on 01/06/2008 7:51:38 PM PST by dsc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies ]

To: ninonitti
In answer to that I have to ask another question?

Well, actually no you don't HAVE to. :-)

But thanks for answering.

Then would you say that He was whipped and crucified and all that, but He didn't suffer and that any element of His suffering to the story was added by "followers"?

What I'm trying to nail down here is the "deceitful Christ" problem: If He LOOKED like He was suffering but wasn't, then we have something that looks like dishonesty. But if all the suffering elements of the story are added, then we have the problem of where you source your opinions since the "mainstream" followers are either deluded or manipulative (or both, I guess).

157 posted on 01/07/2008 3:15:24 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson