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Compare and Contrast (FSSP vs. Jesuits)
WTPRS ^ | 1/17/2008 | Fr. Z.

Posted on 01/17/2008 12:11:34 PM PST by Pyro7480

I was sent these by e-mail from a reader

This is the FSSP in a gathering in 2006:


This is the 2008 General Congregation of Jesuits in Rome:

 



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
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To: ELS

I’ve attended business meetings where nobody had on neckties. Which is neither here nor there since I was trying to make the point that the Jesuit picture looked like some type of secular meeting.


21 posted on 01/18/2008 4:30:20 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Sounds like fertile ground for Summorum Pontificum. Do you suppose there's a sympathetic priest and sufficient critical mass, so to speak, to get a service off the ground? One of our parochial vicars is studying with the F.S.S.P. priest so that he can offer the Latin Mass.
22 posted on 01/18/2008 12:22:49 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Bishop Loverde did permit two parishes to have Latin Masses, the parish in Front Royal and one in Franconia (near Springfield, VA) back in 2006. The Diocese of Arlington has had a reputation over the years for being one of the more conservative diocese. I’m hoping that with Pope Benedict’s encouragement of use of the Latin Mass of 1962 that the FSSP might be able to some in to the Diocese. After the Pope’s further encouragement of the Latin Mass, a parish in McLean also started having the Latin Mass (1962 version). I think there are a number of priests that are sympathetic, but I’m not sure if there is sufficient critial mass among the laity in the Diocese. I have a feeling that there is a lot of behind-the-scenes politics in the Diocese that may mean a slow and perhaps grudging permitting more parishes having the TLM in the future.


23 posted on 01/18/2008 12:35:43 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Gosh . . . well, if you're ever in Atlanta . . . .

We had an absolutely amazing Christmas Mass. Lots of great music, and Monsignor let us sing the Mozart "Spaurmesse" in C Major in its entirety as the Ordinary of the Mass. And gave us a plug afterwards . . . told the congregation this was a "rare opportunity to hear Mozart's Mass as it was intended to be heard."

We're going to be living off that music until Ash Wednesday . . . .

24 posted on 01/18/2008 6:54:32 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Convert from ECUSA; BlackElk
OK, I gotta run in my Usual Jesuit Graphic here . . .

"Are you a good Jesuit . . . or the other kind?"

25 posted on 01/18/2008 7:00:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pyro7480

As I understand it, in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s, there was a great division among Jesuits, particularly within the United States. On the one side, you had an “old guard” of traditionalists. And on the other side, there was a large crop of men in their 20s and 30s who embraced what has been known as the “Spirit of Vatican II.” The former group insisted that the latter group’s ideas of “reform” would ultimately sow the seed’s of the destruction of the Society. Nevertheless, by the early ‘80s, the latter group had completely prevailed. But their “success” has ultimately vindicated the predictions of the old guard that opposed them in the ‘60s. The Order has essentially self-destructed, as seminary enrollment has dropped from 5500 in 1965 to 140 now.


26 posted on 01/18/2008 7:14:30 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: sneakers

bttt


27 posted on 01/19/2008 4:50:26 PM PST by sneakers (This Pennsylvania gal supports DUNCAN HUNTER for President!)
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28 posted on 01/30/2008 2:53:57 PM PST by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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