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To: Ping-Pong
[Rev:12:5] Until recently I saw the man child as Christ but now believe He was the first man child but also was a type for the future one(s) who are His elect, the "priests of God" that will rule with Him.

Not quite sure I understand. Who do you mean by...."the first man child"? I have always believed that this is The Messiah being spoken of.

The woman spoken of is "Israel". Wilderness implies many things and has many interpretations. "They should feed her" can just as easily be said....."She will be fed" leaving one to believe it will be God who does the feeding. The Greek does not say "they".....but it is implied that someone does the feeding.

172 posted on 02/27/2008 3:34:44 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
[Rev:12:5] Until recently I saw the man child as Christ but now believe He was the first man child but also was a type for the future one(s) who are His elect, the "priests of God" that will rule with Him.

Not quite sure I understand. Who do you mean by...."the first man child"? I have always believed that this is The Messiah being spoken of.

I thought so too but recently it was brought to my attention that it can't be. They are correct.

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
This represents the Zodiac with the twelve constellations as well as Israel with the twelve tribes that brought forth the Messiah.

2.And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3.And there appeared another wonder in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4.And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
The woman is Mary delivering Christ and Herod wanted to kill Him. She delivered the first man child but is there another?

5.And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to His throne.

Christ will rule with a "rod of iron" but so shall those that are with Him.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give authority over the nations:

27.And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of My Father.

28.And I will give him the morning star.

There are other scriptures too but Christ giving the "rod of iron" to "him" as well as "authority over the nations" and the "morning star" demonstrate that there is more than one man child. He is The Man Child but His elect are those that will rule with Him [Rev.20:6]

This has been an interesting study, one I first balked at but finally realized this man child of the woman in [Rev.12:5] was just another name for the elect of [20:6]

The woman spoken of is "Israel". Wilderness implies many things and has many interpretations. "They should feed her" can just as easily be said....."She will be fed" leaving one to believe it will be God who does the feeding. The Greek does not say "they".....but it is implied that someone does the feeding.

God feeds but is it through the Holy Spirit, the two witnesses or through the elect? And....where is the wilderness? An actual place she is taken to or is this us where we are now? Are we in the midst of the 3 1/2 years of being fed in the wilderness?

I've had my head wrapped around this and associated teachings all day. I'm off to watch American Idol and totally waste the next 1 1/2 hours. Sometimes that is a good thing to do.

.......Ping-Pong

173 posted on 02/27/2008 4:54:14 PM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: Diego1618

I agree with you on the man child and the woman. The child is Jesus and the woman is Israel, and God will feed the woman.


223 posted on 08/19/2008 10:37:11 PM PDT by kevinw
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