Skip to comments.ROMAN CATHOLICISM: A DIFFERENT GOSPEL
Posted on 02/28/2008 6:25:40 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
ROMAN CATHOLICISM: A DIFFERENT GOSPEL
In their lust for unity the Emergent Church and post-evangelical Protestants are right now embracing the Roman Catholic Church as another Christian denomination. But the issue is simple: If, as taught the Church of Rome, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without the new birth in baptism then we are now in hopeless contradiction with the Gospel contained in Holy Scripture.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)
Speaking The Truth In Love
Let me make this as clear as I possibly can for the Roman Catholics who may read this work in Christ from Apprising Ministries. I personally am former member of the Church of Rome and care very deeply about those, such as the majority of my own family line, who are trapped in this apostate man-made system of religion known as Roman Catholicism. I also fully realize that what I say may sound unloving and possibly even harsh. However, there is just nothing that I can do about that. By not telling the Truth we arent doing anyone a service.
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Okay. So why concentrate on the “false” teachings of fellow Christians when there are a growing number of Islamists? For the life of me, I will never understand why so many non-Catholics have to take so many shots at the Catholics.
Perhaps I missed it so please identify the purportedly false teaching of the Catholic Church and scripturally document how it is wrong.
Wow. They act as if the Catholic Church came along after they did. The RCC is the only church that can trace it's roots back all the way to Christ. That said, I don't think the word "denomination" would be appropriate. Others are a denomination of the original Church.
Does John 3:3 ring any bells?
There is no contradiction.
I remember the Romans murdered Christ.. as the RCC murders church history.. Hand me down Apostles is a mental construct.. You cannot hand down Apostleship.. God appoints Aposles they are not elected or groomed by men.. The RCC began in about 313A.D. or so.. before that there were other centers of christian worship.. and there still is..
All part of the salvation plan.
as the RCC murders church history..
Examples and proof, please.
Hand me down Apostles is a mental construct.. You cannot hand down Apostleship.. God appoints Aposles they are not elected or groomed by men..
Indeed God appoints apostles, but He uses man to accomplish His will. You can find that in scripture.
The RCC began in about 313A.D. or so.. before that there were other centers of christian worship.. and there still is..
The RCC is the church established by Christ, whether called that at first or not. When did your church come along?
“The RCC is the only church that can trace it’s roots back all the way to Christ.”
Im not a member of a church.. Im a member of a family..
According to John 10 Jesus calls all "sheep" out of the sheep pen into a flock which is a family.. Have you been called out of your sheep pen?.. I have.. I have followed the shepards voice for a good while.. for he is the gate to the sheep pen and beckons all to come out..
Alas, some do not.. scared maybe.. thats why there is so many sheep pens with posuers posing as shepards..
[ Examples and proof please...]
Of course this claim is valid for four (not one) branch of Christianity: the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Churches, the Oriental Orthodox Churches and the Assyrian Church of the East. All four truly and legitimately (from a secular historical perspective) make claims of apostolic origin. The beginnings as separated churches are owed to historical circumstances in the fifth and eleventh centuries.
That being said, hosepipe, neither the Catholic Church nor any of the others would agree with your assertion that there were any other established branches of Christianity (outside of these four) which has survived to the present day. As an historian, I can tell you that such a notion is patently false and unsupportable academically.
Now, your qualms with the teachings of the historic Church (be it in any of the four above-mentioned branches) are something completely different. They should be argued on their own merits. But to claim that “the Catholic Church started in 313 AD” is utter and absolute nonsense.
The Catholic Church is one of four branches of the historic, undivided Church begun by Jesus and his apostles. That is a provable fact which no historian disputes. As I said, you may argue that this Church (or any other) has “lost its way” if you like, but no sane man can deny the apostolic origins of any of these four branches of Christianity.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights!
Yeah, sure. Got any oceanfront real estate in New Mexico to sell?
"This prefigured baptism, which saves you now" -- 1 Pt 3:21.
You're wrong of course.. There is only one church from the beginning.. There can only BE one church.. There can be CLUBS however.. Jesus did not forbid clubs.. but only one church is possible.. What is the Holy Spirit, a moron?..
The church is of people called out of the clubs.. or even the world extant.. after all buddism is a club too.. You seem to have removed the Holy Spirit out of the loop, your loop..
Naah! the church is doing fine, always has been too.. The clubs however are always wrangling about something.. Many clubs do not allow the Holy Spirit in their buildings.. Oh! well, their loss.. By the way Im serious as a heart attack..
The RCC(club) became solid or chartered about 313A.D.
I've been told that this is allegorical, like John 6, or that the water is amniotic fluid. But the meaning here is clear and direct - water and the Holy Spirit. Otherwise, how else to connect it to Matt. 28:19?
Everything's allegorical that doesn't fit with some folks' predetermined theology! ;) And you can quote direct statements of Scripture, but somehow they don't mean what they seem to mean. The world was created in literally six solar days--dare not deny it--but "Baptism now saves us" means everything but "Baptism now saves us".
I think your quote is well worth repeating ad nauseam, so allow me to contribute to the nausea!
John 3:5 - Jesus answered: Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 22:16 'And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'
Romans 6:4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Coloss 2:12 buried with Him in baptism
He should heed his own words and spend more time with his nose in Scripture to learn what it teaches about baptism.