He/She/It did some really outstanding self-sustaining cosmologic and macro-mechanical stuff,
but this whole humanity thing seems to have needed s'more beta testing prior to realease . . .
Posted on 03/01/2008 6:26:29 AM PST by Terriergal
A recent front-page story in our local newspaper hailed the upcoming wedding of two lesbian women in our county who are travelling to Canada for their ceremony. The younger of the two women boldly declared, "How can love ever be wrong? I think God would take up a fight for me on that one. He’d be on my side." Would He? In a recent article written for my congregation, I examine the difference between biblical love and unbridled lust. Is God really in favor of lesbian love?
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/APC0101/80213130
I guess it's not just cheap drugs you can get in Canada.
“How can love ever be wrong? I think God would take up a fight for me on that one. He’d be on my side.”
Says one of the two lebsians.
Worshiping a God of their own making.
Didn’t God create those two women, knowing they were going to fall in love?
The point is that it is sinful lust, not love.
I personally think god automated the process a few hundred thousand years ago and he just puts his head in his hands and drinks heavily when he sees the mistakes.
It is my experience that homosexuals do not know the difference between love and lust.
Very good point.
Yeah, So what? Are you implying your ignorance about God's character, or are you just plain ignorant about what God expects from his creation?
He also gave them free will and the opportunity to know and do what is right.
He/She/It did some really outstanding self-sustaining cosmologic and macro-mechanical stuff,
but this whole humanity thing seems to have needed s'more beta testing prior to realease . . .
Then sustitute sinful lust for love...didn’t God know what they were going to do, and He still created them?
I don’t believe that God makes mistakes.
You don’t believe that God knows His creations are going to do?
Of course I do not know God’s character, I’m just a man, with beliefs.
Are you saying you know the character of God and what He expects from His creations?
Do you believe God has a plan for each of us that He creates?
God does not make mistakes, we do. It is called sin. Jesus came to earth and died on a cross to cover our sins.
If God created us with a plan for each of us, knows what we are going to do, and cannot make mistakes...then how can anything we do, not be part of His plan? and not be what He infallibly knows we are going to do?
In the case of psychological problems, like the tendency toward homosexuality, it's easy to see they're merely challenges to be dealt with, not alternative states of being; the tendency is antithetical to the God's paradigm for physical mammals, observable by anyone in material reality.
Except, of course, by some of those who find it easier succumb to the trials rather than experience the sacrifice necessary to grow beyond their lusts. 
Yes, and it's witnessed in two places to know God's character.
In your heart, and in the bible.
My whole point is God knows what's going to happen, but he will not violate man's sovireignty, or control man's will. May I suggest, and I do not mean this sarcastically, you start seeking The Truth. Your question alone is a great start, thank you for asking it.
You are in serious need of a theology course. We have sinned since the days of Adam and Eve. While God knows what the future holds, he does not make those decisions for us. We make our own mistakes. He gifted us with “free will”.
You need to go to a (Catholic) church and learn what God is all about. Your homepage says you hope there is an afterlife, so go get busy finding out how to get to heaven.
I don’t believe God has control over whether someone listens to Him or not.
The short answer is yes. A discussion about predestination is for another thread.
Satan has his hand in earthly things, and is in fact highly influential where thoughts are concerned.
How do you know these challenges are to be overcome by faith? Doesn’t God know beforehand if we will have the faith to overcome these challenges and if th challenges will be overcome?
Why do you say it’s easy to see they’re merely challenges to be dealt with, not alternative states of being? If God created someone, knowing they were going to be a homosexual, why would that be antithetical to God’s paradigm...wouldn’t it actually be part of His paradigm for that individual?
God gives different people different hearts, many do not believe in the bible as you do. Can God be wrong, when He creates someone knowing they will not believe as you?
How do you KNOW that God will not violate man’s sovireignty or even that man has sovireignty?
Perhaps God created us with individual self-evident truths. Do you KNOW that He didn’t?
I’ve taken theology courses and my current thinking is partially a result of them.
If, as you say, God knows what the future holds, then how can we do other than what He knows will happen?
If I am to go to heaven, I will...because, again as you say, God knows it.
Doesn’t God know in advance, if someone is going to listen to Him?
Care to share some of those "experiences"...? LOL
A short answer is sufficient. Thank you for agreeing with me.
I assume not from reading the Bible.
???
So I assume God does not know if you are going to listen to him. Your assumption that He knows every aspect of your life has “new age” tones to it.
Darn! That’s not what was running through my mind...:)
smilie face here
LOL....I KEPT asking that very question during my conversion classes......I couldn’t get a handle on it. How could God know all and not control it all? He does. There are some things you cannot reason out, that’s why it’s called “faith”. If you have to know all the answers before you sign on, it wouldn’t be faith at all. Yet that is exactly what God wants. Good luck with it, hope to meet you in Heaven someday. ;^)
The material world obviously has laws that are reflected everywhere in it, and natural laws that govern the creatures in it.
I have no doubt that God, there at the beginning, knew that these ladies would be lost to that law, because He is also there at the end and to see the result of the choices His creatures have made by their own free will.
I very much doubt He created them for that purpose.
The universe is not chaos, conflicting with itself, as is easy to see.
I was taught as a youth, and I hear it quite often nowadays, that God is all-knowing, even of the future, and is never wrong.
I don’t understand what you are trying to say about people paying attention to and forgetting God.
At my age, I would hardly call it ‘new age’, although I’m not quite sure what is wrong with new age, as opposed to current or past age.
What else is there to do about God and these subjects, other than assume/believe...it’s not like anyone can prove any of this.
If God is the creator of all, which must then even include satan, how can a man’s behavior not be His creation? Doesn’t God create us all, knowing what we are going to do and think? Doesn’t God have a plan for each of us to follow?
Yes, and I believe He gave each of us our own individual faith. I’m of a belief that we will all meet again...if that is God’s will.
I believe they are overcome or not, by what God has planned for us.
Perhaps we just don’t know all about all the laws. If God created these ladies knowing what they were going to do, how could they not do it? How do you KNOW why He created them?
Plan? Don’t know. Callings yes.
I know it may be hair splitting but a plan implies a set path and lack of options.
Callings should imply objectives with free will.
Not all are called. Many called, few chosen.
Why is that? I don’t know I and I don’t think it is my place to question.
Yes, we do and should know. Read the Bible, it is all there in plain English.
OK, you think calling, others think plan. Either way, if God KNOWS what we are going to do, how can we do anything other than that?
If God has a plan for each of us, and knows what we are going to do, wouldn’t His plan include what He knows we are going to do?
If evil exists, and God created all things, then who created evil?
What about the people that God created, that He knows don’t believe the bible, that are of different beliefs?
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