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Thousands in U.S. to Join (Catholic) Church - Many Feel They Have Found a Home
Zenit News Agency ^ | March 12, 2008

Posted on 03/12/2008 3:52:30 PM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON, D.C., MARCH 11, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Tens of thousands of Americans will join the Catholic Church this Holy Saturday through the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults.

Many of those in the RCIA program participated in the Rite of Election with their bishops at the beginning of Lent and will be baptized, confirmed and receive Communion for the first time this Saturday. More, who already have been baptized, will embrace full membership in the Catholic Church.

The numbers vary across dioceses. The Diocese of Orange, California, for example, will baptize more than 650 people and welcome more than 500 others into full communion at the Easter Vigil.

The Archdiocese of Detroit registers some of the largest numbers with 589 catechumens receiving full initiation and 497 candidates from other Christian traditions being received into full communion. Although technically not part of the RCIA, 289 baptized Catholics will also receive confirmation and Eucharist.

In Ohio, the Archdiocese of Cincinnati will welcome during the Easter Vigil 437 catechumens and 541 candidates for a total of 978 people; another 65 candidates were brought into the Church at other times during the year.

Most of those coming into the Church through the RCIA program are adults, but in some instances children are part of both groups, usually as members of a family that enters the Church together.

According to early figures from the 2007 Official Catholic Directory, last year almost 64,500 adults were baptized in the Catholic Church and nearly 93,000 came into full communion.

These numbers are supplemented by the baptisms of infants that occur in parishes throughout the year. It is estimated that more than a million infant baptisms will take place in the U.S. during 2008.

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The backgrounds of the people seeking to be baptized or to enter into full communion by receiving first Communion and/or confirmation vary, but many express the sentiment that they are coming home.

Mark Ma, a second year student at the University of Virginia, who has a major in economics and a minor in philosophy, was born in Beijing, to agnostic parents.

A self-defined hard-line atheist through high school, he started talking to Christians of different denominations, read a few Christian works and began to pray.

After soul searching and historical research he found his home in the Catholic Church.

In another instance, when Kimberly Grub moved from Texas to Rhode Island, she decided to embark up on something she’d been wanting to do for a long time -- get closer to God.

Feeling the discomfort that comes in moving to a new place, she found comfort and community at St. Lucy’s Church in Middletown, and will become a member of the Catholic Church on Holy Saturday.

The Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults is an ancient rite that was reinstituted in the Church following the Second Vatican Council. It is the usual means for adults to come into the Church.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicchurch; goodnews

1 posted on 03/12/2008 3:52:32 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Good news ping!


2 posted on 03/12/2008 3:53:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Uh-oh.

Popcorn in the microwave...


3 posted on 03/12/2008 4:02:46 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: NYer

Welcome!

4 posted on 03/12/2008 4:03:36 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: NYer
I expect there will be a surge of “coming home” to the Catholic Church as the baby boomers get into their old age.

So we should be ready to nail the door shut. (joke)

5 posted on 03/12/2008 4:21:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: NYer

our parish has 50 in RCIA this year


6 posted on 03/12/2008 4:40:57 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer

our parish has 50 in RCIA this year


7 posted on 03/12/2008 4:41:05 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer

Number me as one who went the other direction. 40 years and absolutely no regrets.


8 posted on 03/12/2008 4:42:30 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: NYer

Interesting. I am sure I saw that poll recently where the Catholic growth in the US is mainly through Catholics coming in from South and Central America, and amongst the native US parishioners there is nearly a static situation, with as many coming in as going out.

I know that the local CC has been flooded by Hispanics, (their parking lot is right next to my church) and the few whites are mostly older couples.


9 posted on 03/12/2008 5:05:16 PM PDT by Ottofire (But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation)
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To: AlaskaErik

This Easter vigil will be my tenth year as a Catholic. Best decision I ever made (next to marrying my wife, of course).


10 posted on 03/12/2008 6:29:44 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Ottofire

I became a Catholic two years ago. There were over fifty adults plus a couple of teens in my class. No Hispanics.

My husband became a Catholic last Easter. Not quite as large a group as mine, about 40. Again, no Hispanics.

Th Church has been a comfort and a joy for me. My all who worship this Easter find the same joy, whatever their church may be.


11 posted on 03/12/2008 7:55:55 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Ottofire

No doubt you’ll be able to post a link to that poll so (1) the methodology can be checked and (2) we can find out if you’re being truthful.


12 posted on 03/12/2008 9:21:58 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: NYer

**According to early figures from the 2007 Official Catholic Directory, last year almost 64,500 adults were baptized in the Catholic Church and nearly 93,000 came into full communion.**

Amazing numbers!


13 posted on 03/12/2008 10:19:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Many of these people who were baptized Catholic are recognizing that they STILL are Catholic.

We are welcoming them back with open arms.

And many of their family members are also being baptized now as adults. Also their children are being baptized. We have a whole family coming into the Catholic Church at our parish. Two years ago both the mother and father and two teenagers joined the Catholic Church!


14 posted on 03/12/2008 10:21:49 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Nihil Obstat

How many families in your parish?


15 posted on 03/12/2008 10:22:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I expect there will be a surge of “coming home” to the Catholic Church as the baby boomers get into their old age.

Catholics Come Home

16 posted on 03/12/2008 11:54:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: NYer

I have at least one gentleman coming into the RCC in my parish church community. Be it 1 or 50, it is truly a miracle.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 2:42:46 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Rather not a surge, but a flood of baby boomers who are Catholic as they see their parents pass on and have to deal with all the issues of aging.


18 posted on 03/13/2008 2:45:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Ottofire

But do not cancel out that thanks to the RCIA and the efforts of JPII and B16 to have also the “youth”, people between the ages of 16-40 step up to the plate as well as the Hispanics. This is the effects of the famous “JPII generation” for also seeing a resurge of the RCC in the USA.


19 posted on 03/13/2008 2:49:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: AlaskaErik
Number me as one who went the other direction. 40 years and absolutely no regrets.

Yet

I left and came back, If you seek truth, really seek the entire deposit of truth and faith, the only place you will find it is in the Catholic Church.

I will pray for you.

20 posted on 03/13/2008 3:13:55 AM PDT by verga (W. Jefferson Clinton)
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To: NYer

For years we have talked about ‘Mass attendance’ as the criterion to look at when we define someone’s Catholicism. Of late, I have come to the conclusion that a more significant indicator of one’s active participation in our faith is whether or not one accesses the sacrament of confession. What was the sacrament that Protestant Revolt ushered out the door? Confession. What was the first sacrament to fall from radar screen post Vatican II? Confession. Catholic’s coming home to the Church will not be marked best by their return to Mass but by their frequenting of the Sacrament of Confession. And why is this significant? Because when one goes to confession one relinquishes the sin of our society - relativism which says that I am the determiner of good and evil in this work (a la Adam), I am God, and there is no objective truth. There are many Catholics sitting in the pews attending Mass who have not been to confession in years. They receive communion despite their sin and continue to have their faith eroded. I was one who never missed Mass but it wasn’t until I went to confession that my faith began to turn around. On another note, I would bet my life savings that NONE of those priest homosexual/pedophiles were frequent receivers of the Sacrament of Confession, although they said Mass daily for the most part.


21 posted on 03/13/2008 3:20:56 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: Salvation
We are welcoming them back with open arms.

That might be a bit of a stretch. The lay leadership, in many cases, are NOT gratified by "growing pains."

22 posted on 03/13/2008 3:37:23 AM PDT by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Salvation

I’m not sure, but it’s a big parish. We have four good, faithful priests and two deacons. 3 masses a day during the week and 6 or 7 masses on Sunday.


23 posted on 03/13/2008 7:38:08 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (pray for the Christians in the Holy Land)
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To: NYer

In our parish church, we’ve got about 7 or 8 pews reserved at the front for RCIA folks who will become Catholics this Easter. Not too shabby!


24 posted on 03/13/2008 8:36:59 AM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: Biggirl; A.A. Cunningham; Ottofire
But do not cancel out that thanks to the RCIA and the efforts of JPII and B16 to have also the “youth”, people between the ages of 16-40 step up to the plate as well as the Hispanics. This is the effects of the famous “JPII generation” for also seeing a resurge of the RCC in the USA.

Would you consider it reasonable for me to ask you to reference studies which show a "resurge of the RCC in the USA"?

I will not stoop so low as to intimate you are not being truthful as A.A. Cunningham seemed to do in his request of Ottofire. (See post #12.)

25 posted on 03/13/2008 9:30:02 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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No doubt you’ll be able to post a link to that poll so (1) the methodology can be checked and (2) we can find out if you’re being truthful.

Try the Pew Report for one:

While those Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular religion have seen the greatest growth in numbers as a result of changes in affiliation, Catholicism has experienced the greatest net losses as a result of affiliation changes. While nearly one-in-three Americans (31%) were raised in the Catholic faith, today fewer than one-in-four (24%) describe themselves as Catholic. These losses would have been even more pronounced were it not for the offsetting impact of immigration. The Landscape Survey finds that among the foreign-born adult population, Catholics outnumber Protestants by nearly a two-to-one margin (46% Catholic vs. 24% Protestant); among native-born Americans, on the other hand, Protestants outnumber Catholics by an even larger margin (55% Protestant vs. 21% Catholic). Immigrants are also disproportionately represented among several world religions in the U.S., including Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism.

THE PEW FORUM


One interesting section of the Pew Report:

PORTRAITS - ETHNIC DISTRIBUTION

Now I imagine you'd be willing to provide "truthful" links which debunk the Pew Report?

26 posted on 03/13/2008 9:45:09 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; All

Thanks Old Reggie. I thought I saw that one on FR, but I might be mistaken.

As for being called a liar, it is hard for ones preconceptions to be questioned, especially preconceptions that HAVE to be right, and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, as long as it is in defense of those preconceptions.

A certain Catholic has called me a liar before, and said worse about my character, and I just take it as a sign of spiritual immaturity. But hey, I am a total jerk sometimes too. If I wasn’t I wouldn’t need a Savior!


27 posted on 03/13/2008 10:10:22 AM PDT by Ottofire (But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation)
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To: Ottofire

No, I think you are wrong. This is not only Hispanic immigrants. We RCIA’d a few years ago, coming in from a non-denom church. Our RCIA was FULL of young people starting out, converts from Protestant churches, all different ages. This is in a middle-income/wealthy area here in Los Angeles. Our class was all white. A friend in our Bible Study, raised Muslim (!), joined about 8 years ago. The churches around here are growing and thriving. As the Pope reins in the excesses of Vat 2 and the Church returns to health, you will see even more of this.

These numbers are impressive to me, huge!! The Holy Spirit is truly at work.


28 posted on 03/13/2008 10:16:19 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Wow! That’s a big church! Three daily Masses!


29 posted on 03/13/2008 10:19:38 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bboop

>As the Pope reins in the excesses of Vat 2 and the Church returns to health, you will see even more of this.

I know you are suggesting that these excesses are a result of misinterpretation of the infallible teachings, and not Vatican II itself!

Much like the Protestants and Sola Scriptura, the Catholic church has problems interpreting its spiritually inspired revelations as well.


30 posted on 03/13/2008 10:29:07 AM PDT by Ottofire (Psalm 18:31 For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God?)
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To: Ottofire
Thanks Old Reggie. I thought I saw that one on FR, but I might be mistaken.

Yes, there was a recent thread, or two, or three on the Pew Study.

As for being called a liar, it is hard for ones preconceptions to be questioned, especially preconceptions that HAVE to be right, and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, as long as it is in defense of those preconceptions.

What I am somewhat amused about is the respondents who say "things are going great guns in my Paris, untold converts and baptisms." Of course no one has ever left the RCC in their Parish. Also, their Parish is representative of the entire country.


31 posted on 03/13/2008 11:54:20 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: NYer

Just think how many thousands more will join when McCain is elected.


32 posted on 03/13/2008 6:03:19 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Miss Marple
I became a Catholic two years ago. There were over fifty adults plus a couple of teens in my class. No Hispanics.

My husband became a Catholic last Easter. Not quite as large a group as mine, about 40. Again, no Hispanics.

Congrats on your new-found faith. But, why would the classes have many (if any) Hispanic immigrants from South or Central America? Typically, they are already Roman Catholic, so they wouldn't need to go through any classes, true? The lack of Hispanic immigrants in the classes doesn't mean that they aren't (or are) a factor in any increase in membership.

33 posted on 03/13/2008 6:24:12 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: RedWhiteBlue
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34 posted on 03/13/2008 6:53:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Wow — that’s the first time I’ve ever said something here that received a response that contained 60 links. Were all of those links a relevant response to mine, or did you just responded to my post because it the last one this thread? I really don’t feel like looking through 60 links to see if there is anything relevant to the point that I made.


35 posted on 03/13/2008 9:18:47 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: RedWhiteBlue

**responded to my post because it the last one this thread?*

I plead guilty. Should have sent it to the poster. My mistake, please forgive me.


36 posted on 03/13/2008 9:38:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

I do, however, want people to be aware of the numerous converts to the Catholic Church. This has been going on for quite awhile.


37 posted on 03/13/2008 9:38:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; RedWhiteBlue
Although one in three Americans are raised Roman Catholic, only one in four adults describe themselves as such, despite the huge numbers of immigrants swelling American churches, researchers said.

"Immigration is what is keeping them afloat," said John Green, a Pew senior fellow. "If everyone who was raised Catholic stayed Catholic, it'd be a third of the country."

Catholic tradition fading in U.S.

To be sure, the traditional mainline Protestant Churches are also fading but I see none of them spamming post after post. If any did so I'd also link them to the same study.
38 posted on 03/14/2008 10:12:55 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: RedWhiteBlue; Salvation
Wow — that’s the first time I’ve ever said something here that received a response that contained 60 links. Were all of those links a relevant response to mine, or did you just responded to my post because it the last one this thread? I really don’t feel like looking through 60 links to see if there is anything relevant to the point that I made.

Please don't feel you are being singled out. This is a typical response by Salvation. Don't expect a reasoned response.
39 posted on 03/14/2008 10:19:45 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Salvation; RedWhiteBlue
I do, however, want people to be aware of the numerous converts to the Catholic Church. This has been going on for quite awhile.

I owe you an apology. I replied to RedWhiteBlue before I read this post.

I believed yoou wouldn't respond because I have asked you the purpose of these kind of posts several times and have never received an answer.

Perhaps you perceived me as too confrontational. :)

In any event I see no purpose in posts such as yours. It proves nothing concerning the comings and goings between Catholics, Protestants, et al. If it were a one way street it might be meaningful but we all know such is not the case.

If you have any responsible study which disputes those found in the Pew Study please reference it.

40 posted on 03/14/2008 10:38:54 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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