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LDS Church gives nod to Landmark status for Mountain Meadows site
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 03/29/2008 | Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 04/03/2008 9:07:12 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: JRochelle; All
That all the time in IL, the Mormons just ‘took it’?

They didn't. It was called the Mormon Wars for a reason.

Mormons were killed by non-mormons. Non-mormons were killed by Mormons.

It wasn't just ONE incident. Good grief, if you are a Mormons, you sure are lacking in your knowledge of your own religion's past.

Of course they tend to dwell on only the ones where the Mormons were the victims.

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Just what do you believe the biggest reason for the “good” folks in the east wanted to get rig of the LDS for.

Why were the “christian” mobs driving the LSD off their lands?

When did the Mormons ride into a farm and tell a family to get out of town at the risk of loosing their lives?

What time of year were the Saints forced to cross the river on the ice and live outside without proper shelter?

Why did the mayer of Nauvoo have the printing office closed?

41 posted on 04/05/2008 12:34:46 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Zakeet
would you please post links to credible references.

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Just what would the Tannerites and Deckerites consider good credible references?

42 posted on 04/05/2008 12:38:17 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
Your use of words is interesting in how you put two words together to create a derogatory comment.

Fred, you're pretty good at stringing whole derogatory sentences against Christian churches together ( See below..) Not unlike the founding prophets of Mormonism have done over the years.

Since the charges against God's Church has not changed since before I joined His Church...

We can only repeat the truth, no matter how often those who do not want to follow God's church try to deceive others into also not following Him.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's Church on earth

43 posted on 04/05/2008 7:44:14 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: greyfoxx39
hundreds of “good christians” that did many , many times worse.
THAT, is a “full-true lie!” What, pray tell, is “many, many times worse” than ambushing from secret and killing every man, woman and child over the age of eight?

Source and links for these acts you are accusing Christians of.

You didn't answer my post about the “friends and relatives” claim you made, Fred...can't you back up your “half-true lie”?

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After a night's sleep, I can see that your misunderstanding on this one is my fault.

As I was growing up, the term “friends and relatives” was used to refer to people who had something in common.

You who are Mormon bashers and/or anti-Mormon, would fall in the category of “friends and relatives”.

Even being from the same end of the country, when so many of the people in that end of the country were armed anti-Mormons, to the way I was using the term, would be “friends and relatives”.

Most any wagon train from the east, from the way I used the term, would have been looked on as “friends and relatives”.

Sorry to have used a term that caused confusion.

44 posted on 04/05/2008 8:55:08 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
As I was growing up, the term “friends and relatives” was used to refer to people who had something in common.

You who are Mormon bashers and/or anti-Mormon, would fall in the category of “friends and relatives”.

Even being from the same end of the country, when so many of the people in that end of the country were armed anti-Mormons, to the way I was using the term, would be “friends and relatives”.

Most any wagon train from the east, from the way I used the term, would have been looked on as “friends and relatives”.

Boy, nothing like really stretching to find an alibi for a vicious ambush massacre of innocent men, women and children over the age of eight, Fred.

You paint with a REALLY broad brush to bash Christians. Guess I'll copy your spam message and substitute Christian where you use mormon. Did I see you post at one time that you are a convert? You don't seem to be too knowledgeable of mormon history.

45 posted on 04/05/2008 9:13:59 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: fproy2222; colorcountry
I almost fell for your red herring. Are you going to post the "many, many times worse" things that were done to mormons with sources and links?

The bodies of the Mountain Meadows Massacre were left unattended and unburied for days to rot in the weather. What is many, many times worse? I'm waiting for your links.

Link

46 posted on 04/05/2008 9:38:46 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: greyfoxx39
You paint with a REALLY broad brush to bash Christians

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I use you folks here at FR for the role models,

You are the ones that say it is you christians vs, us Mormons, not us.

If you do not like the distentions you make, stop using them.

47 posted on 04/05/2008 4:21:13 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: greyfoxx39
Be careful of your link, my virus protection will not even give me the option to override and down load anyway.
48 posted on 04/05/2008 4:53:04 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
Be careful of your link, my virus protection will not even give me the option to override and down load anyway.

That's a new one, Fred. Link is to archives of the NY Times. My virus protection isn't controlled by the LDS church.

Good dodge to try and keep others from reading of the atrocities committed by the mormons at the MMM.

Where are the links to the source for your comment that there were "many, many worse things done to mormons"?

Funny, someone complains consistently about the "half true lies" posted here, and then they post a blatant lie and won't back it up with sources.

49 posted on 04/06/2008 6:24:05 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Be careful of your link, my virus protection will not even give me the option to override and down load anyway.

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That's a new one, Fred. Link is to archives of the NY Times. My virus protection isn't controlled by the LDS church.

Good dodge to try and keep others from reading of the atrocities committed by the mormons at the MMM.

Where are the links to the source for your comment that there were “many, many worse things done to mormons”?

Funny, someone complains consistently about the “half true lies” posted here, and then they post a blatant lie and won't back it up
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I try to be helpful and see what I get.

50 posted on 04/06/2008 1:08:02 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222; greyfoxx39
You are the ones that say it is you christians vs, us Mormons, not us.

I guess Fred forgot post #43 above........

51 posted on 04/07/2008 1:51:25 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Osage Orange
I guess Fred forgot post #43 above........

It appears that Fred is studiously avoiding presenting evidence for his claim that "many, many worse things were done to mormons" than the atrocious massacre of over 120 men, women and children at Mountain Meadows by mormons, after which the bodies were left to lie and rot in the weather for days and days.

I sure would like to see some proof of THAT statement...what is "many, many times worse"?

52 posted on 04/07/2008 3:09:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Osage Orange
You are the ones that say it is you christians vs, us Mormons, not us.

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I guess Fred forgot post #43 above........

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If you would truly take the time and interest to learn about God's Church, you would know why your assumption about what I said is wrong.

53 posted on 04/07/2008 11:39:44 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222
If you would truly take the time and interest to learn about God's Church, you would know why your assumption about what I said is wrong.

If you would truly and prayerfully take all the time you needed to finally understand the Truth.....your eyes would be opened to exactly what I've been saying.

54 posted on 04/08/2008 5:39:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Osage Orange
If you would truly take the time and interest to learn about God's Church, you would know why your assumption about what I said is wrong.

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If you would truly and prayerfully take all the time you needed to finally understand the Truth.....your eyes would be opened to exactly what I've been saying.

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to me, Your words have confirmed that you have no desire to know anything about those who you say you are trying to convert.

Your actions are anti-LDS, and not pro Christ.

Don't feel bad, there are many here at FR that do not want to learn the difference.

55 posted on 04/08/2008 11:27:28 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222; restornu
to me, Your words have confirmed that you have no desire to know anything about those who you say you are trying to convert.

Well, to me you have confirmed you've hit a dead-end. And no longer seek the Truth.

Your actions are anti-LDS, and not pro Christ.

Your words are anti-Christian, and anti-Jesus. Your whole religion is anti-Christian.

Mormonism's founders were horribly deceived by Satan...and consumed with power.

Don't feel bad, there are many here at FR that do not want to learn the difference.

At last we can totally agree.

56 posted on 04/08/2008 5:24:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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