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Posted on 04/03/2008 3:24:39 PM PDT by annalex

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To: papertyger

Notice Jesus’s words were ‘the same’ which has the same meaning as what I said, ‘no difference’. That is quite different than twisting it to day Mary was not important. She was doing God’s will, which is extremely important.


101 posted on 04/03/2008 9:52:35 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: papertyger

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


102 posted on 04/03/2008 9:58:12 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: roamer_1
Can you forgive your friend of his sins? Can you heal him? Can you cause his heart to be opened to our Lord? Not of your own will, you cannot. You may ask for those things for your friend, in Christ's name. It is still Christ that intercedes. It is still His work that forgives, heals, or saves, not yours or mine.

None of that changes the dynamic you object to in the first place. It doesn't matter if I'm interceeding in Christ's name, or by the power of Castle Grayskull: I'm still interceeding which according to your earlier formulation, is usurping Christ's role as priest.

103 posted on 04/03/2008 10:20:21 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: Always Right
You completely mischaracterize my statement...

Forgive me!

"Nothing special" and "no different" are such obvious polar opposites!

How on earth could I ever think that's gnat-gagging?

104 posted on 04/03/2008 10:32:02 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger

Actually, it is night and day. If God had not thought believers were nothing special he would not have sent His only begotten son to save those who believe. That is VERY special. Jesus refers to us as brothers and sisters. That is VERY special. VERY special is the same as VERY special. You twist it to say VERY special = Nothing special. I was parroting God’s word, and you twist it to me saying Mary was nothing special.


105 posted on 04/03/2008 10:42:00 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right
I was parroting God's word

Really? Where does God's word say Mary is "no different?"

All this fuss about Mary being "special" sounds awfully Catholic to me.

106 posted on 04/03/2008 11:00:44 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger

It is from Matt 12:46-50 and was quoted in post 100. Jesus says his mother is the same as all people who do God’s will in the Kingdom of God. The difference between Catholics and Protestants is Protestants like Christ put all people as brothers and sisters equal in the eyes of God. While Catholics create this hierarchy that Mary is the greatest person ever, followed by saints and popes, and eventually we get down to the peons who are unimportant and who God would never listen to without the help of Mary or some great saint.


107 posted on 04/03/2008 11:09:33 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right
Jesus says his mother is the same as all people who do God's will in the Kingdom of God.

That is NOT what he said. Interpretation is NOT "parroting."

And the only difference I know of between Catholics and Protestants that matters any is when I was a Protestant, God did not answer my prayer for deliverance while I was proclaiming myself delivered, and He did deliver me when I let the guy who was rightfully entitled to be Pope have the job instead of being my own Pope.

108 posted on 04/03/2008 11:28:51 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger

Perhaps bitterness held you back during your pre-Catholic days. Again, I am glad Catholicism works for you. Faith in Jesus is what saves. If it took becoming Catholic for you, that is great. But that is your experience. Many people find Jesus in other ways, including dare I say in Protestant churches. You just seem to still have anger towards fellow Christians which I don’t get.


109 posted on 04/03/2008 11:40:37 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: annalex

Christ tells us over and over and over we are to come directly to Him

The scripture you posted does not say that, “doctor”. Please post the scripture that supports your opinion.

John 14
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Couldn’t be any clearer.


110 posted on 04/03/2008 11:56:55 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Always Right
You just seem to still have anger towards fellow Christians which I don't get.

Would you not be angered by those who make promises predicated on the Bible, then define everything associated with those promises in such fuzzy terms there's no way to judge if the promise is being kept or not?

That's not "faith," it's fraud! And it's done in the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

111 posted on 04/03/2008 11:58:32 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: annalex

Christ tells us over and over and over we are to come directly to Him

The scripture you posted does not say that, “doctor”. Please post the scripture that supports your opinion.

John 14
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Couldn’t be any clearer.


112 posted on 04/04/2008 12:01:16 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: annalex

Christ tells us over and over and over we are to come directly to Him

The scripture you posted does not say that, “doctor”. Please post the scripture that supports your opinion.

John 14
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Couldn’t be any clearer.


113 posted on 04/04/2008 12:01:56 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: annalex

Christ tells us over and over and over we are to come directly to Him

The scripture you posted does not say that, “doctor”. Please post the scripture that supports your opinion.

John 14
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Couldn’t be any clearer.


114 posted on 04/04/2008 12:05:21 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus

Sorry, I kept getting a server error.


115 posted on 04/04/2008 12:06:17 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus
I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Couldn't be any clearer.

Sure it could. You say that like you have a detailed understanding of how the Trinity works.

You people act like if I "go to the movies" I can't "eat popcorn" too.

116 posted on 04/04/2008 12:11:39 AM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger

Sure it could. You say that like you have a detailed understanding of how the Trinity works.”

Marys part of the Trinity? Wow, how did I miss that?


117 posted on 04/04/2008 12:14:54 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus
Sorry, I kept getting a server error.

Really? I didn't notice.

Really? I didn't notice.

Really? I didn't notice.

Really? I didn't notice.

Really? I didn't notice.

;o)

118 posted on 04/04/2008 12:15:59 AM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: philetus
Marys part of the Trinity? Wow, how did I miss that?

Don't you think that kind of insinuation is unecessarily provocative?

119 posted on 04/04/2008 12:24:04 AM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger

You can’t refute John 14:6, so you act stupid and ignore it.


120 posted on 04/04/2008 12:25:41 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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