Posted on 04/04/2008 11:01:22 AM PDT by Gamecock
Yes, the Eucharist is a very old doctrine. "Old" to us as in "with us from the very beginning." "Old" to the Calvinist as "something cast aside long ago; archaic; tired and discarded."
It's an important distinction, albeit a tragic one.
Yes it is. And as often as we do it, we do it "in remembrance of His sacrifice". Luke 22:19
That’s not the Lord God helping you with post 199.
Good question. I look at it this way. The Jewish religion was very liturgical. It had prescribed prayers for prescribed times of the year. The Passover liturgy is pretty solidly spelled out. So I think at the least, the early Christians would have just taken the Passover prayers they were used to and adapted them for Christian use in "the breaking of the bread". And the earliest documents we have outside the NT like the Didache are pretty liturgical, so it's safe to assume the early Christians were not just winging it as they went along.
It is kind if like the simple act of prayer, you can do it once to many times a day, the more you do the better you are able to relate to the Father, but I do not think it harms you if your are infrequent except in the sense of making you more open to straying from your Christian walk.
Very well said. Yeah, some parts of the world see a priest very infrequently and can't receive Communion. I am less concerned about those folks whom God will take care of, then folks like, well like me, who could have it every day and yet can't seem to find the time to go daily. Can't hurt to be generous in doing the things of the Lord!
It would be great if both RCC and Protestant Churches would take a firmer stance on refusing communion in regards to public persons who openly act against Church beliefs but expect to be welcomed as a faithful sheep. As an example some politicians come to mind that are pro-life.
Right! I'm with you 100% there. AFter all, what happened in Acts to the guy who was stealing money and received Communion? He didn't fare too well! LOL
Right. Then the next question is, what kind of remembrance? Only a symbolic remembrance, or is there more going on here than just symbolism?
"Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body" 1 Cor. 11:27-29
The bizarre distortion is yours. You claim you’re not ashamed of it, yet now you blame someone else. Very revealing.
Alex, did you see my comment earlier where I took issue with your characterization? I don’t want you to think I am supporting your idea.
But frankly, once you believe that God is fully present in that Host, how the heck could you NOT esteem it higher than anything else?
I just don’t understand how you think this is a plus for your side I guess.
And?
“Is this your opus?”
For those who understand why I posted that, it’s as long as my opus needs to be.
You quoted me incompletely; you left out the wink.
Thank you.
“I only wish that Catholics would be more committed to making their faith known.”
Just think. If there were no divisions in the Christian world, there would be the natural symbiosis of a community which allows for the vocal and the less vocal; those who work by preaching and those who preach by working. In that world, there would be strength.
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I've never read a more rude or childish comment at FR.
Well, yeah, exactly: if the "growth hormone" you're taking is the glorified and risen humanity of the Lord Jesus Christ, that will indeed cause a change in one's "physical and moral makeup".
If you think you can sanctify yourself by "increasingly ethical behavior," I have some news for you: you're a Pelagian. Sin requires a much more serious remedy than that. It requires that you be infused with God's own nature and life.
... I promised you, who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the Sacrament of the Lord's Table, which you now look upon and of which you last night were made participants. You ought to know what you have received, what you are going to receive, and what you ought to receive daily. That Bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Blood of Christ. Through that bread and wine the Lord Christ willed to commend His Body and Blood, which He poured out for us unto the forgiveness of sins. If you receive worthily, you are what you have received.-- Augustine, Sermons 227
The faithful also know a spiritual sustenance, which you too are going to know, and to receive from the altar of God. That too will be a daily bread, necessary for this life. I mean, are we going to go on receiving the eucharist when we have come to Christ himself, and when we have begun to reign with him for ever? So the eucharist is our daily bread; but we should receive it in such a way that our minds and not just our bellies find refreshment. You see, the special property to be understood in it is unity, so that by being digested into his body and turned into his members we may be what we receive. Then it will really be our daily bread.
-- Augustine, Sermons 57
Amazing that in this list the author does not ask the 2 MOST important questions:
1) Have you prayed to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, about which church you should join.
2) Have you received confirmation through the Holy Ghost that joining the Catholic Church is the correct decision.
If the person has prayed about his decision, and if his decision is confirmed by the Hold Ghost, then he should more forward with his baptism into the Catholic Church.
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Excellent example! (Sitting here laughing!)
Wrong. There have been a few theologists who have gotten a lot of press to that effect, but the Church's position on Biblical inerrancy has not changed one iota.
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