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To: annalex

I have two comments.

I think that while the hopes of reunification with the Orthodox East have never been greater, Protestantism (excepting conservative Luterans and Anglicans) is on a centrifugal trajectory even in relation to itself, let alone the historical apostolic churches. The hostility that evangelical Christian often have to Catholic mariology are a sure sign that it is familial unity under the motherhood of Mary that they fear.

On the other hand, it is worth mentioning that Mary is our important point of contact with other abrahamic religions, as the high point of the existance of Biblical Israel, and a figure who inspires a great devotion among the Muslim.


4 posted on 04/09/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Protestantism [...] is on a centrifugal trajectory even in relation to itself, let alone the historical apostolic churches.

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

The hostility that evangelical Christian often have to Catholic mariology are a sure sign that it is familial unity under the motherhood of Mary that they fear.

No. There is no fear involved. The entirety of Catholic mariology, and prayers to saints in general, are without Biblical standing, and are offensive to the singular redemption and intercessory power of Christ.

I remain entirely unconvinced, as are my fellows, I am sure. There will be no reunion as long as the Catholics insist upon such heresies.

[...]and a figure who inspires a great devotion among the Muslim.

Mohammedanism is decidedly *not* a religion based upon the God Jehovah, nor is it of His Son.

18 posted on 04/09/2008 1:23:40 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: annalex
We don't "fear" anything. The mariology cult is just making up additional orthodoxy to suit their imaginations. Protestants started when they were allowed to read the Bible for themselves. Any reading of the Scriptures by a reasonable person can see that she was a willing servant, not a god-like being to be worshiped. Why not worship Moses, Abraham, Ezekiel, etc? The apostles were just people that sold out completely to God. The Bible is from Genesis to Revelation about the revelation of Jesus Christ to the world. Anything that takes from His glory is false religion. The Bible specifically forbids graven images, yet all over the world the "maryologists" bow and pray before pictures and statues in their homes and on sides of the road. They travel for thousands of miles to pray over bits of bone and hanks of hair.

ALL this detracts from the worship of Jesus as the Deity of God Almighty. These dead people cannot help you in your prayers anymore than a golden calf could. All power and glory to Jesus and no one else. The sensitivity to people that don't want to pray to dead people is just like blacks sensitivity to saying anything about blacks. The facts are the facts and Mary needed Jesus to die on the cross as much as I did to be saved. She was a person, no better no worse than many other characters in the Bible.

Anyone can be saved by the Blood of Jesus, but the "extra" rules and beliefs are man made religion, which Jesus came to condemn in the Pharisee's. Christians are joined only by the faith in the redemptive power of Jesus as Lord and Savior, but separated by denominational "religious" differences. I can't worship Mary any more than I can pray to Joseph Smith. The danger in all this is we could agree that the Dali Lama, Buddha, or Obama could also be as good a path to heaven as any.

In the beginning, was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Its all about Jesus all the time.

24 posted on 04/09/2008 1:59:32 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: annalex

and a figure who inspires a great devotion among the Muslim.
= = =

That is a fascinating point.

And that point ALSO meshes quite hand-in-glove with the gloablist plans using the Jihadi’s toward a global government and one world religion. I don’t like where it seems this is headed, globally.

However, my EXPERIENCE of a certain percentage of RC’s hereon leaves me quite concerned that were various events staged ostensibly ‘proving’ that a “Mary” similar to that hoaxed at Fatima was now calling all RC’s and all earth’s citizens to join her ‘more fully explained’ ‘truer’ Christianity . . . it would appear that the busses would be filled to the max with cheering sheeple.


33 posted on 04/09/2008 4:29:48 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: annalex
What about the problem of throngs of Catholics turning out on Pilgrimiges to see “Images” of the Virgin Mary on screen doors, etc.?
820 posted on 04/15/2008 1:31:15 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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