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As a developing Christian, I hadn't thought to ask that question.
1 posted on 04/15/2008 10:31:33 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger

Read “Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis.


2 posted on 04/15/2008 10:34:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: perfect stranger
I been a cradle Catholic all my life and it only occurred to me a few weeks ago when it was discussed at a seminar about the Bible.

It's a good question, but like so many things, I'm afraid the answer is beyond our understanding.

4 posted on 04/15/2008 10:44:24 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: perfect stranger

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/read/penetrating_questions_from_the_book_of_job


5 posted on 04/15/2008 10:52:45 PM PDT by LucyJo (One of Brad's Gramma's 'people'...but, she has disclaimer rights on my posts. ; ))
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To: MHGinTN

PING


6 posted on 04/15/2008 10:54:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: perfect stranger

Imagine a sinless life, wherein we’d be like plants.


7 posted on 04/15/2008 11:08:00 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: perfect stranger

I’ve always enjoy reading Billy Graham.


8 posted on 04/15/2008 11:11:21 PM PDT by boycott
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To: perfect stranger
The incarnation, crucifixion and resurrection were not plan B. God intended from the outset to demonstrate to creation his inestimable love for mankind. Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man's obedience many will be made righteous. It is the final step of creation, that mankind, made aware once again of his utter dependence on God for salvation, receives joyfully that salvation

. Without that knowledge of his need for salvation, and without experiencing the grace that permits him to long for salvation, mankind cannot have his will conformed to God, except for by a brute force which attains conformation without love; therefore God permitted us to sin so that we may rejoice in salvation and love him in gratitude made possible only through grace.

This gift, enabling us to love out of friendship and not mere obey out of servility, is at such a precious cost: that God himself has taken upon himself all our pains and great humility and allowed us to sin. Thus, in full awareness of the horror and injustice of sin, the Church is yet able to proclaim at Easter in the ancient mass the paradoxical refrain, Oh happy fault, O necessary sin of Adam, which gained for us so great a Redeemer!

For Christ has ransomed us with his blood,
and paid for us the price of Adam's sin
to our eternal Father!

This is our passover feast,
when Christ, the true Lamb, is slain,
whose blood consecrates the homes of all believers.

This is the night when first you saved our fathers:
you freed the people of Israel from their slavery
and led them dry-shod through the sea.

This is the night when the pillar of fire
destroyed the darkness of sin!

This is the night when Christians everywhere,
washed clean of sin
and freed from all defilement,
are restored to grace and grow together in holiness.

This is the night when Jesus Christ
broke the chains of death
and rose triumphant from the grave.

What good would life have been to us,
had Christ not come as our Redeemer?

Father, how wonderful your care for us!
How boundless your merciful love!
To ransom a slave
you gave away your Son.

O happy fault, O necessary sin of Adam,
which gained for us so great a Redeemer!

That prayer is used in Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran Easter liturgies. Or if you prefer a Calvinist source, here is Paradise Lost by Milton:

O Goodness infinite, Goodness immense!
That all this good of evil shall produce,
And evil turn to good; more wonderful
Than that which by creation first brought forth
Light out of darkness! Full of doubt I stand,
Whether I should repent me now of sin
By me done, and occasioned; or rejoice
Much more, that much more good thereof shall spring;
To God more glory, more good-will to Men
From God, and over wrath grace shall abound.


11 posted on 04/15/2008 11:38:23 PM PDT by dangus
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To: perfect stranger

—An object lesson for all Creation . . .

about the wages of sin

And God’s Justice triumphed by God’s Mercy and Love . . .

No more heavenly rebellions a la satan are entertained in the least.

All Creation is expectd to emphatically “get it” this go around.

Evil and rebellion are deadly. Only Loving God brings and allows life.


15 posted on 04/16/2008 2:43:22 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: perfect stranger

he did it to teach Satan a lesson, and the angels that fell with him

that flawed, imperfect humans could learn to follow God through faith, instead of sight which Satan had

Satan and the angels saw, spoke with, and heard from God face to face. When they sinned, they did such a stupid thing, God taught them just how wrong they were by using imperfect created beings, humans, to show His love

Humans respond by faith. To show love to people who never even saw God, that proves God is love


17 posted on 04/16/2008 3:56:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: perfect stranger
Moses penned Genesis hundreds of years after the fact. Other prophets fill in the blanks regarding this event. So the Christian does not get the big picture just by reading these words alone.

Ezekiel 28:12 addresses the devil by calling him king of Tyrus. Ezekiel says that in verse 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; yet Moses says not one word regarding the creation of Lucifer and his role of the anointed cherub that covereth. Yet Moses calls this entity the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of the garden and then labels him the serpent.

Now what knowledge did this proverbial tree have as Adam and Eve were NOT the only two involved in the sin.

Isaiah 14:12 gives more information regarding Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick;

therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in sight of all them that behold thee.

The stated purpose Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are *partakers* of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

The devil, serpent, destroyer, king of Tyrus, king of Babylon, accuser, great red dragon, some of the many names/roles the devil has been allowed to play has already been sentenced to death and he will never be allowed to be born of woman.

Adam was a fully grown adult when created with NO knowledge of the Written WORD, only he was given the commandment to NOT touch that tree.... further note God did NOT blame Eve for Adam's sin, Adam is the one who pointed his finger to Eve that woman that God gave him.... Maybe that is why the question gets asked this way Why Did God Allow Adam and Eve to Sin?

18 posted on 04/16/2008 4:31:49 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: perfect stranger
Well, it was quiet a bit later when God told Moses of the 10 commandments. Perhaps he didn't clarify the *rules* for A and E.
19 posted on 04/16/2008 5:00:56 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: perfect stranger

Love is a free-will offering. Without free will, mankind could not truly love God.

JMO.


20 posted on 04/16/2008 5:23:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: perfect stranger

Read “A Course in Miracles”.

Keep an open mind and enjoy. The book had a major impact on my life and spiritual program.


22 posted on 04/16/2008 5:28:19 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: perfect stranger

Its simple... “Free Will”.

God could demand our behavior of his laws at all times, and not give man any choice in the matter. Or deny human beings free will. He could simply demand and enforce that we worship him at all times and in all ways... but a gift that’s demanded is no gift at all.

What father has never faced a situation where their child is going to make a bad decision? When they are young, we simply prevent it.. but there comes a time when, we have to quietly sit back and let them err... and its one of the toughest things as a parent you have to do sometimes... but it is done out of love, not spite or anger or a desire to see them fall.. but because there is a time when the absolute protection of the parent must let go so that the child can begin to become who and what they are meant to be.


25 posted on 04/16/2008 6:50:57 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: perfect stranger

The question could be expanded. Why did He allow his #2 Lucifer and his followers, to go against Him? This causes me concern, that sin is still possible in Heaven.


26 posted on 04/16/2008 6:51:38 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: perfect stranger

I think a better question would be, why did God allow Satan and the fallen angles to sin?


27 posted on 04/16/2008 7:04:37 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: perfect stranger

God desires all of His attributes to be on display, His omniscience, His glory, His power... Without sin, there would not be a way to display His supreme self sacrificing love.


31 posted on 04/16/2008 8:44:49 AM PDT by kingcanuteus
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To: perfect stranger

/sigh... “Free Will”....


33 posted on 04/16/2008 10:15:52 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: perfect stranger

God did not want us to be robots, he wanted us to love him freely. That free will thing.


37 posted on 04/16/2008 2:44:05 PM PDT by navygal (retired navy and proud of it.)
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