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Ark of the new covenant
This Rock ^ | 12/1991 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 04/27/2008 6:33:53 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Uncle Chip
How about the sin of losing the Son of God in the first place!

It takes Mary and Joseph three days to find the Lord.

101 posted on 04/29/2008 2:00:43 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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102 posted on 04/29/2008 9:30:43 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Campion
I have a Catholic perspective. Just open your Bible and read Psalm 14, all if it, and tell me if it really says that "not even one" is righteous, in the categorical and absolute sense.

Paul knew his Scripture, and he didn't tear out one verse from the Old Testament and try to make it mean something other than what it meant in the original context. Ever.

From Psalm 14, what gives you the impression that there are exceptions?

What Paul does in Romans 3 is sum up his argument from the previous 2 chapters: both Greeks and Jews are under sin. He uses Psalm 14, Psalm 5, Psalm 140, Psalm 10, Isaiah 59, and Psalm 36 to illustrate his point. He's writing Scripture here, and as a result he is interpreting and applying it to make his point. He means "all".

He makes the point again in 3:23 - "all have sinned".

Later, in chapter 5, Paul talks about the nature of the descendants of Adam - sinners, under condemnation, disobedient. All of us. If your parents are both humans, you're a descendant of Adam and Eve. You're a sinner, born that way.

Were both of Mary's parents human? If so, she's under the curse as well, not an exception.

103 posted on 05/01/2008 8:31:35 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: kevinw
As for the title, “Ark of the New Covenant,” Christ is the Ark of the New Covenant.

Sorry for the delay in responding (busy week with work).

Nonetheless, you're incorrect on your assertion.

Christ is the New Covenant.

Mary, whose womb housed the New Covenant is the ark.

With due respect, to say that Christ is the Ark of the New Covenant degrades Him, as implicitly, the words "Ark of the..." implies that He is the repository of something more important than Him. Since Christ is the everlasting God, the second person of the Blessed Trinity, there is nothing more significant than Himself.

104 posted on 05/02/2008 3:27:41 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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