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Posted on 05/03/2008 2:57:20 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
Will Jesus Christ return to Earth in the year 2015?
And can studying NASA's website provide evidence for such a scenario?
A minister who promotes the Old Testament roots of Christianity suggests a rare string of lunar and solar eclipses said to fall on God's annual holy days seven years from now could herald what's come to be known as the "Second Coming" of Jesus.
"God wants us to look at the biblical calendar," says Mark Biltz, pastor of El Shaddai Ministries in Bonney Lake, Wash. "The reason we need to be watching is [because] He will signal His appearance. But we have to know what to be watching as well. So we need to be watching the biblical holidays."
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
poppykosch!
Whats the difference between a bloodmoon and a harvest moon?
Also see
A good example of why ministers should say away from science.
It is amazing the silliness you get when every wild interpretation of Holy Scripture is considered ok.
Over time, many more eclipses than sightings of Jesus
Probably the blood.
I am not looking for any particular day, but I don't doubt that signs will appear as the time draws near.
WND out-WND’ing itself.
Perhaps, until we, as generic Christians, quit lapping up their cant. I wonder how much of the lost credibility of our gospel traces back to these spinners of vile and evil fantasies?
Some people are piling up judgment, and have a lot to answer for.
So the new dates are 2012 and 2015, are there any further out than that? I was wondering if I should invest in treasury bonds.
“There will be false prophets”
One thing I do know for sure ... we are one day closer than we were yesterday.
And you, in your infinite wisdom, will recognize them, because you're special.
If Hillary wins in 2012, the world will end before she can be inaugurated.
Do not cast your peals before...
They would have laughed at Noah as well.;-)
“If Hillary wins in 2012,the world will end before she can be inaugurated.”
I would take some small measure of comfort from that!
No doubt Mercury will be in retrograde at that time.
Oh, and what is the difference between a blood moon and a
Harvest moon?
The Harvest moon shines on, the Blood moon bleeds on.
bump for later read
Harvest Moon was the Neil Young album that really, really sucked.
NAsbU Luke 8:8 "Other seed fell into the good soil, and grewb'SHEM Yah'shua
up, and produced a crop a hundred times as great." As He said these
things, He would call out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
You won’t know. Woe!
You have taken this verse out of context:
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
NAsbU Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows,
Did Noah know the Flood was coming ?
not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone
NAsbU Matthew 24:37 "For the coming of the Son of Man
will be just like the days of Noah.
Scientists try to explain things like the Star of Bethlehem as a conjunction of planets and now lunar/solar eclipses are used to explain the 2nd coming. God could use these events but He also could decide to use a one time miraculous event that is something that is not predicted. But it is interesting that many Biblical events do seem to coincide with events that can be explained, that science in many cases appears to confirm much of what the Bible says.
Here is the correct context:
Mark 13:32-35
32 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
33 Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is.
34 It is like a man going to a far country, who left his house and gave authority to his servants, and to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to watch.
35 Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is comingin the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning lest, coming suddenly, he find you sleeping.
As I recall, “Harvest Moon” is the first full moon after the autumnal equinox — the time at which you would harvest your crops.
The “blood moon” is the moon with the reddish tinge — due to the shadow of the earth.
You could have both, I suppose — maybe for the southern hemisphere one of these blood moons could be a Harvest Moon.
Mark 13:shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED
AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
25 AND THE STARS WILL BE FALLING from heaven, and the powers that
are in the heavens will be shaken.
26 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great
power and glory.
27 "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect
from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest
end of heaven.
28 "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already
become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near.
29 "Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize
that He is near, right at the door.
30 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all
these things take place.
31 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
32 "But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven,
nor the Son, but the Father alone.
33 "Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed
time will come.
34 "It is like a man away on a journey, who upon leaving his house and
putting his slaves in charge, assigning to each one his task, also commanded
the doorkeeper to stay on the alert.
35 "Therefore, be on the alert-- for you do not know when the master
of the house is coming, whether in the evening, at midnight, or when the
rooster crows, or in the morning--
36 in case he should come suddenly and find you asleep.
37 "What I say to you I say to all, 'Be on the alert!'"
We are instructed always to be on the alert, since none can know the hour.
Relying on future eclipse dates to tell us the 'hour' seems to be in direct violation of these instructions.
We are instructed always to be on the alert, since none can know the hour.
Relying on future eclipse dates to tell us the 'hour' seems to be in direct violation of these instructions.
33 posted on May 3, 2008 5:59:25 PM MDT by annie laurie
The eclipses occur on Holy Feast days of YHvH. The significance of the first four Feast Days which were re-celebrated by Yah'shua (Jesus). Pesach when Yah'shua offered Himself as our Passover Lamb to cover our sins. The Day of Unleavened Bread when all sin was removed. The Feast of First Fruits when He rose from the dead. The Feast of Shavuot (Pentecost) when the Ru'ach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) The next Holy Feast Day of YHvH is the day for which you know not the day nor hour:If you think these are just eclipses, then you are not familiar with Feast Days of YHvH.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
came and filled the followers of the Christ.
The Feast of Trumpets. It begins when three stars are sighted in Jerusalem.
As Jesus said “Nobody knows the date or hour of my return except the Father” ... so quick, everybody look busy ......
It is amazing the silliness you get when every wild interpretation of Holy Scripture is considered ok.
Yup, we need an Infallible Magisterium(R) to give us the one true wild interpretation.
Ping for later
Thats impossible. The moon turning to blood in fulfillment of end time prophecy has already happened.
It was on May 19, 1780.
Or so I was taught when I was being raised as a Seventh Day Adventist..........................................
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_eschatology
Then one night I saw another blood red moon during a lunar eclipse and well. It was all downhill from there.............
Stoat I’m sure you can clear all this up for the Marshall.
To reiterate my previous post:
We are instructed always to be on the alert, since none can know the hour.
Relying on future eclipse dates to tell us the ‘hour’ seems to be in direct violation of these instructions.
With that said, I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one, FRiend :)
May God bless you.
A good reason why some ministers should stay away from the Bible.
This is the sort of nonsense you get when you cross the “Jewish roots” folk with theological extremism.
Move on there is nothing new ; it all happened in 70 AD
If you read the article, that actual quote is talked about. I am not saying this guy is right or wrong, and I don’t pretend to know any particular date or time; however, everything is coming into alignment. Time will tell.
No, I am not special. I do hope and pray that I will be able to recognize any forwarning God gives us. I honestly don't know what then to do, other than pray.
20 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 25 "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." 29 Then He spoke to them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. 31 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.No astronomical charts or rabbinic traditions required.
You are not supposed to know the day or the hour, numbskull.
Anybody who thinks they do is attributing God-like powers to themselves.
The word for that is "blasphemy."
PS - I predict that you will die thousands or millions or billions of years before the end of the world.
I am a lot more likely to be correct than you.
Harvest moons are the fool moons following the autumnal equinox. Because they rise with the sunset, they prolong dusk (and, therefore, harvest festivals); the closer one gets to the equinox (or the equator), the closer to the sunset is the rise of the full moon. A harvest moon is associated with being red simply because most attention is paid to it while it is on the horizon, when the prismatic effects of the Earth’s atmosphere make any celestial light appear reddish: the atmosphere bends red light more than other light. At dusk, light traveling to earth passes through much more atmosphere, so red light gets bent around even to the side of the Earth just entering darkness.
A blood moon is a lunar eclipse. (All lunar eclipses haooen during full moons, so a blood moon may be a harvest moon!) They appear red because they are in the Earth’s shadows. The only significant light which reaches the moon is that red light which was slightly bent by the Earth’s atmosphere so that it can reach the moon, which otherwise would shield the moon from all sunlight.
So a harvest moon just *looks* red to those people on Earth experiencing dusk; a blood moon actually *is* red because the only light it gets is from the dusky edges of Earth.
Fool moons? How did I make THAT typo from “full moons”?
>> “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.” <<
So, the second coming will be during the harvest moon, during the corn harvest?
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