SELF-GOVERNMENT - MYSTERIES... ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD

Journal of Discourses ^ | APRIL 9, 1852 | Mormon Prophet Brigham Young

[Elsie]

He was our kinda guy.

YEAH!!!

Not like the wimpy jerks that followed him and caved in to the Powerful United States Government!

--MormonDude(Ya want me to post the "To Whom it may CONCERN" stuff?)

[Elsie]

Using your standers, you have once again proven the Bible to be false.

And here we have a #12...

                       Standard LDS responses to data put to them:

 

Shorthand

Reference:
1. How you interpret it is wrong...	(Need a source)
2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....	(Need a source)
3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...	(Need a source)
4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...	(Need a source)
5. So’s yer Mama!	(Need a source)
6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.	(Need a source)
7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!	http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=683#683
8. Bait & Switch	(Need a source)
9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.	(Need a source)
10. "I Know It When I See It"	(Need a source)
11. Hand waving...	(Need a source)
12. YOU play defense for a while.	http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=944#944
13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!	http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1994515/posts?page=15#15
14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!	(Need a source)
15. Huh? Did you say something?	(Need a source)
16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.	http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1997522/posts?page=2252#2252
17. Playing dumb.	(Need a source)
18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.	(Need a source)
19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)	(Need a source)
20. And the MOST used...  IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.	http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8
21. Threatening other FReepers with legal action because they annoy you with facts. (E-Danite-ism)	http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2008967/posts?page=335#335

 

 

 

 

 

" The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success

unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly -

- it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."

[count-your-change]

uhhh...OK, just keep your hands where I can see them. I don’t want to hurt you but if you don’t put that keyboard down.......

[Elsie]

Did the Lord cause David to number Israel?

Does God justify the ungodly?

Does God punish children for the sins of their fathers?

Aw... come on now! Say what you REALLY mean!!

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Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

[Elsie]

I wouldn’t be too proud to be associated with these folks.

Associatre yourself with a bit of MORMON historical fact.

What do YOU think of BY's sermon?

[Elsie]

Gosh Marlowe, I thought I was the leader....or maybe Greyfoxx39, or perhaps we have a council of leaders.

At LEAST we do NOT have to get 12 YESMEN to 'agree' that what we say is ACTUALLY from GOD!

[P-Marlowe]

14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting! (Need a source)

I think we have a #14 HERE.

[Elsie]

Did Brigham Young prove the Bible false?

His teacher claimed that it was, ahem, unreliable.

It's right there in the Mormon creed. You can look it up.

With a tip to Fproy2222

[Elsie]

You're out of luck Saundra. IIRC, you have to hold the Mormon priesthood to become a God.

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OFFICIAL DECLARATION—2

 

To Whom It May Concern:

On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

 

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

 

June 8, 1978

 

To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:

 

Dear Brethren:

 

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

 

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

 

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

 

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

 

Sincerely yours,

Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney

The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

 

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

 

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.

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Sorry Girls; but you STILL ain't considered WORTHY yet!

 

Maybe them good ol' boys in SLC can whip up some sympathy for you, too, someday!!

 

 

(Wayne and Garth say "Hi!" for they ain't worthy either!)

[Elsie]

I think the leader looks more like PM..don't you?

A good leader has to be able to moove his followers...

[stockpirate]

This thread an the others that have been posted have not had an affect on me as I haven’t read an further then the titles.

You see I do not think the Mormon church is the true church any more then I think the Catholic church is the one true church.

What I do see is several posters appearing to bait Mormons into an argument in an attempt to convert them away from their own walk with God.

The other consequence this has is it puts FR in a bad light.

Your group of zealots are full of anger and have missed IMHO what Christ’s message is. And in your own seek on FR to be persucuted.

[bonfire]

“What I do see is several posters appearing to bait Mormons into an argument in an attempt to convert them away from their own walk with God”

godS. They don’t believe in just one.

[stockpirate]

They never played well with anyone I have ever known.

Even the new sermons.

[stockpirate]

Again you prove my point, accussing me of being a Mormon or of having been.

You do what most liberals do, shift attention from the topic at hand.

My guess is that your group are anti -Mitt for VP, maybe even pro Hucksters, a big bag of wind socialist.

Seems all of you talk in cult codespeak, must be your Mormon shadow.

[P-Marlowe]

This thread an the others that have been posted have not had an affect on me as I haven’t read an further then the titles.

Interesting. You come on and judge the motives of everyone who posts here, and yet you deliberately keep yourself ignorant as to the content of the article being posted.

Your group of zealots are full of anger and have missed IMHO what Christ’s message is.

That seemed to be a fairly angry statement from you. What is it about this thread or the sermon by Brigham Young which has engendered such anger in you?

BTW, what exactly was Christ's message? Do you think that Brigham Young taught Christ's message in this sermon? Oh, wait... You didn't read it.

Anyway, thank you for your post.

[Petronski]

Have you been to England lately?

LOL

[Godzilla]

A good leader has to be able to moove his followers...

Gotta be able to breath a little fire once in a while.

[P-Marlowe]

Gotta be able to breath a little fire once in a while.

Here's my contribution to the "I'm the leader of the pack" graphics:

[Religion Moderator]

Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.

Click on my profile page for guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum.

[stockpirate]

So when the posters attack me for asking questions, accuse me of being a cult member, or a Mormon these personal attacks are fine?