Posted on 05/13/2008 10:11:30 AM PDT by NYer
This is great. AP is carrying this story about a group of Religious Sisters who couldn't vote yesterday in Indiana because they lacked proper I.D. The best part is that the one who turned them away was another Sister! (emphases added)
About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow sister because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph. Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow members of Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.
The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway. "One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.
The convent will make "a very concerted effort" to get proper identification for the nuns in time for the general election. "We're going to take from now until November to get them out and get this done. "You can't do this like school kids on a bus," she said. "I wish we could."
Late Tuesday, Secretary of State Todd Rokita was unapologetic.
"Indiana's Voter ID Law applies to everyone. From all accounts that we've heard, the sisters were aware of the photo ID requirements and chose not to follow them," he said in a statement released by his office.
Rules are rules...even for you, Sister!
Why didn’t they have proper ID?
This happened last Tuesday but I thought you might enjoy the story.
and nuns should know a thing or two about following rules. ;)
I dunno...but why were nuns voting Democrat? Isn’t that like cows voting for Hamburger Helper?
Cause their old, don’t drive, never go out and never needed it before.
Did she make them put out their hands hands so that she could slap them with a ruler?
Yes, why didn’t they have IDs. Since Vatican II, wearing street close, drivers licenses, etc. They all should have had plenty of IDs. Sorry, I think it’s their own fault.
Rules are for EVERYONE! What are they doing voting in a DEMOCRAT Primary anyway!
And we’re supposed to be outraged and sympathetic that this law is being used to surpress the nun vote?
We’re supposed to be outraged that the Bush Supreme Court upheld such a terrible law????
Why didn’t the AP find some people who might not be in this country legally who were turned away from a polling place, and report on that aspect of the law instead? Or someone who was registered to vote in more than precinct, who had to be turned away because the ID didn’t match? Why not some more common scenarios of people being turned away? Why make it seem like this law wants to punish kind old nuns?
Probably any number of reasons. The article says they’re all in their 80’s and 90’s and do not drive. I imagine that since they’ve been living in the convent (which would presumably handle “business” on their behalf), there hasn’t been a need to obtain any updated identification until now. I’m Catholic, but I don’t really know much about convent life (other than having to be *really* quiet when walking by the one at my Catholic grade school!), so I could be totally wrong. Just throwing it out there. Of course, it’s the responsibility of every citizen to have at least the minimum requirement in regards proper identification.
“Women without ID and plenty of notice showed up at the polls anyway. Treated like every other non-ID’d voter.”
I love how the MSM is really trying to jump this angle.
They already had a lawyer.
They have known about the ID requirement since it was passed.
They had ten days to present IDs and vote a provisional ballot, but they declined.
Like I said, a setup.
When I was in the private practice of law, we called a case you couldn't win against a sympathetic plaintiff a "Seven nuns in a station wagon" case. Obviously this lawyer and his Dem buddies have decided that the way to challenge the law is with seven nuns in a station wagon (without a drivers license among them.)
two words: liberation theology
Considering how this is the Democrat primary it would not shock me that people did indeed attempt to vote multiple times on multiple days.
I think they just flew into the polls to make a point. Flying nuns don’t need driver licenses.
But, since the Supreme Court upheld the law, how can they have a lawyer and already be ready to go to court? Are they going to argue that it violates religious freedom to expect a nun to have an ID? Exactly where can they go with this legally, considering the Supreme Court has already ruled on it?
No. There are so many liberal nuns, one who ministered to my mom when she was in assisted living, lamented the fact that the new pope was too conservative.
We only have to go back a few years to see how a community group that Obama himself was associated with was indicted for submitting 35,000 (yes 25 THOUSAND) questionable voter registration forms in Missouri.
see:
Missouri ACORN Workers Indicted, 35,000 Questionable Forms!
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/missouri-acorn-workers-indicted-35000.html
But the government is not Jesus. Jesus never claimed that governments should do His work.
In that case, though, they might need FAA-issued pilot's licenses. :=)
Typo alert! Little keys, big figners:> Not 25, but 35!
Sorry Sisters...the rules apply to EVERYONE. That’s what you used to tell us when we were growing up and going to Catholic grade school and Catholic High School. You should have obtained your ID’s. That’s a fact and it’s plain and simple. Now...report to the Principal’s office!!!
Maybe they are part of Operation Chaos!
They believe that they are doing the "work" of their "lord"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
helping Illegal Aliens to break the law.
So?
No ID no vote...pretty simple really.
Sad but true. The "self-actualization" movement in psychology of the late '60s and early 70s took a great toll on religious sisters. (See Carl Rogers and the IHM Nuns) One of the psychologists who led the movement later repudiated its ideology, but the damage had already been done.
Nevertheless, there are still some great, old-school sisters around, like the bed-ridden 98-year-old who spent her time knitting booties for babies born into poverty. I read about her in our local Catholic paper a few years ago, and I'll never forget her.
The lawyer is trying to manufacture some sympathetic examples and refile the case.
As Sister Mary Attila sez,
" How conveeeeeeeenient!"
This event really looks like a total set-up.
By a handful of folks that think they have some sort of age/religional exemption.
I do give credit to Sister McGuire for sticking (AFAIK) to her version
of the story: I told them what they needed to do to vote, they didn’t
(or refused to?) do it, and they got turned away.
Nice to see someone being “no respector of persons” or showing favortism.
If the aged nuns were trying to avoid getting new ID I can sympathize a bit.
My brother in Missouri let his drivers license lapse; couldn’t get
a new one until an authorized birth certificate was extracted from
The State of Oklahoma. Thus we ended up driving him around for about
a month before he could get a new MO drivers license.
This “incident” was set-up to give the ANTI-legal ID efforts in
Oklahoma and Missouri something to talk about.
State: Nuns knew they needed picture ID
Elderly sisters could have used absentee ballots.
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS07/483078079/0/Lives
Naturally, Missouri Republicans are chomping at the bit to put in
place the same sort of foolish law. Why does the Missouri GOP hate
brides of Christ?
http://www.firedupmissouri.com/squelching_the_nun_vote
http://www.firedupmissouri.com/
Oklahomans don’t need new barriers to voting
The Norman Transcript
http://www.normantranscript.com/opinion/local_story_131002411
Absolutely.
The nuns are likely being used by the activists.
Bad cases make bad law, and the “plight” of these nuns is a bad and unique case upon which the law for everyone else ought NOT turn.
They are sympathetic from a superficial perspective - perhaps towhip up support for a referendum on the subject.
But from a legal persepctive, the nuns had every opportunity to obtain an ID and simply refused to do so.
Tough crap, sisters. Ceasar made it easy to vote, but you refused. No ballots for you.
LOL!!
Typical lib ploy; smack you in the kisser with a week-old fish or have an urchin in a wheelchair ask to use your private bathroom.
I ask God to forgive me should my suspicions be incorrect.
I think they were sent out to vote so a later challenge to the voter ID law could be filed. I wonder how many other elections have theyvoted in? I believe it was known well in advance they would not have proper ID.
That's not unapologetic, that's being a dick.
Sure, "rules apply to everyone" -- but that says nothing about the quality or wisdom of the rules or the petty dictators that enforce them.
Bet he'd have let his own mom in without a photo id.
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