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Do Protestants consider Catholics to be Christians? [open]
5/16/08 | me

Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom

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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<

Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
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To: netmilsmom

Without question I do. And there are certain aspects of Catholic theology and practice that I find superior to those of my own faith. Catholocism, despite all of its dogma and official trappings, remains more contemplative on the whole, I believe, than most Protestant denominations. I find the spiritual experience of mass to be far more reverent and do attend on occasions.

That said, I can’t accept the Catholic Church and all of its beliefs as a whole, so I’d have a hard time converting. There are a few lagging issues that keep me where I am as a Presbyterian.

But yes, Catholics are absolutely 100% Christian. And any Christian who would limit the words of John 3:16 more than they are in a literal translation is someone who I have far greater theological differences with than I’ve ever had with the Catholic Church.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 3:38:55 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Alex Murphy
Are Protestants "anathemized", “heretics”, “defective Christians”, or “separated brethren”?

You simply assume these scary Greek words to mean something worse than the latter two. In fact, "anathemized" means separated and "heretic" means defective (in essence if not lexically). Had you not been Christian, and therefore brethren, neither "anathema" or "heretic" would apply to you.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 3:39:22 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Pyro7480
As if Catholic teaching on the matter has changed! By the way, it hasn't.

By what definition of 'changed' do you base that on? Cahtolic teachings have changed drastically over time.

43 posted on 05/16/2008 3:40:22 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: netmilsmom
Do Protestants consider Catholics to be Christians?

I'm a Protestant and I do. I just disagree with the Catholic Church on certain points of theology.

44 posted on 05/16/2008 3:40:49 PM PDT by Huntress (Barack Obama--Not just another empty suit.)
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To: vpintheak; All
Without a doubt. What I disagree with is the system. God has his lambs in every denomination.

There you go! :^)

45 posted on 05/16/2008 3:41:06 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Jacquerie
Please explain why Catholics are your enemy.

That wasn't what was said.

46 posted on 05/16/2008 3:41:21 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
Feel free to ask any Catholic here on your "lagging issues", and check the recent series of conversion threads I ran. This is the last: Catholic Mariology, Authority, and Various Other Qualms of Protestants Considering Conversion.
47 posted on 05/16/2008 3:42:08 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Oliver Optic
The only big difference between the RC and the (general) Protestant approach is the ecclesiastical structures. The moral teachings are pretty doggone similar.

Anyway, Fur Shur the Islamofascists would have no difficulty selecting which heads to chop off.

Worthy of note John Smith of Jamestown fame, was a well-known Protestant. He was taken prisoner fighting in an army drawn up to protect Europe from the Turks then trying to expand their domains in the Balkans.

I think that's when Protestants and Catholics in Europe first figured out that they were going to have to defend Christendom even if they didn't like each other. The Treaty of Westphalia had, of course, seen them agree to stay out of each other's hair.

Anyway, John Smith was selected by the Virginia Company to be the Governor of Jamestown colony precisely because he could speak fluent Turkish. In those days it was believed Turkish was commonly spoken along the East Coast. Fact was the Spanish had been running a POW camp for prisoners seized in their wars against the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean. Many such prisoners were actually Orthodox Christians ~ they regularly escaped from the Spanish POW camp and fled up the coast to live with Indians. Odds are good that Turkish was commonly spoken on the East Coast in those days.

Now, is there some sort of dispute going on between the RCs and the Protestants? One would hope not.

48 posted on 05/16/2008 3:42:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Happy Rain

Are you sure he said that? Can you show me where? I googled it. BTW, I know what he said.


49 posted on 05/16/2008 3:45:28 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: muawiyah
I am soft on the Buddhists in fact

Best Atheists in the world, IMHO!

50 posted on 05/16/2008 3:45:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: netmilsmom

As a W.A.S.P. (White And Scandinavian Protestant), without question, of course they are.


51 posted on 05/16/2008 3:45:44 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: quadrant

BTW, many well known Protestant groups do not use the creeds. If you want to I suppose it’s OK, but it’s not necessary.


52 posted on 05/16/2008 3:45:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Always Right
Cahtolic teachings have changed drastically over time.

By what basis do you make this judgment?

53 posted on 05/16/2008 3:46:39 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Petrosius

You, of course, are aware that some on this forum do question our belief, our faith, and our doctrine. I have been told that my beliefs are heretical, that I am going to hell because of my beliefs, and a miriad other contemptable things.


54 posted on 05/16/2008 3:48:04 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, many well known Protestant groups do not use the creeds. If you want to I suppose it’s OK, but it’s not necessary

If your name happens to be Barack Hussein Obama, I think it is necessary.

55 posted on 05/16/2008 3:49:17 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Oliver Optic
can (post-baptismal) mortal sin be removed from the soul without confession to a Catholic priest and/or other rites of the Church?

Short answer, absolutely!

56 posted on 05/16/2008 3:49:35 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: netmilsmom; All; Salvation; NYer; drstevej; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; OrthodoxPresbyterian; ...

YES THE ROMAN SYSTEM IS VERY MUCH CHRISTIAN!

90% OF THE SO-CALLED PROTESTANT SYSTEM IS APOSTATE!

WE LOOK TO THE COUNCIL OF ORANGE:
http://www.reformed.org/documents/index.html?mainframe=http://www.reformed.org/documents/canons_of_orange.html

“About the Council of Orange
The Council of Orange was an outgrowth of the controversy between Augustine and Pelagius. This controversy had to do with degree to which a human being is responsible for his or her own salvation, and the role of the grace of God in bringing about salvation. The Pelagians held that human beings are born in a state of innocence, i.e., that there is no such thing as a sinful nature or original sin.

As a result of this view, they held that a state of sinless perfection was achievable in this life. The Council of Orange dealt with the Semi-Pelagian doctrine that the human race, though fallen and possessed of a sinful nature, is still “good” enough to able to lay hold of the grace of God through an act of unredeemed human will. The Council held to Augustine’s view and repudiated Pelagius. The following canons greatly influenced the Reformed doctrine of Total Depravity”

CALVIN WAS VERY AUGUSTINIAN AND INSPIRED BY HIS TEACHINGS.

THE MAIN POINT OF DISPUTE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL REFORMERS AND ROME WAS MAN ATTRIBUTED SALVATION,[ARMINIANISM] VS GOD-CENTERED SALVATION, [SOVERIEGN GRACE].

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Ephesians 2:9
not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
(NKJV)

NO ADD ON’S NEEDED!

GRACE IS FREE,THOUGH NOT CHEAP!

5 SOLAS!


57 posted on 05/16/2008 3:49:43 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: irishtenor

that I am going to hell

Please supply a quote, I will give them the dickens.


58 posted on 05/16/2008 3:49:52 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Radl
If you keep slinging mud in their faces what do you expect?

Ahem... turn the other cheek?

Ok, just jesting. I'm neither Catholic, nor Protestant, by the way.

59 posted on 05/16/2008 3:50:34 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Oliver Optic
can (post-baptismal) mortal sin be removed from the soul without confession to a Catholic priest and/or other rites of the Church?

With God, anything is possible. We don't presume to put limits on His Divine Mercy. However, a full answer of your question would probably require a long discussion on what exactly is meant by "mortal sin" in the Church!

60 posted on 05/16/2008 3:52:04 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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