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Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda
Associated Press ^ | 05-20-08 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/20/2008 11:43:09 AM PDT by Alexius

Orthodox Jews set fire to hundreds of copies of the New Testament in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in the Holy Land. Or Yehuda Deputy Mayor Uzi Aharon said missionaries recently entered a neighborhood in the predominantly religious town of 34,000 in central Israel, distributing hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material. After receiving complaints, Aharon said, he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and drove through the neighborhood, urging people to turn over the material to Jewish religious students who went door to door to collect it. "The books were dumped into a pile and set afire in a lot near a synagogue," he said. The newspaper Maariv reported Tuesday that hundreds of yeshiva students took part in the book-burning. But Aharon told The Associated Press that only a few students were present, and that he was not there when the books were torched. "Not all of the New Testaments that were collected were burned, but hundreds were," he said.

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TOPICS: Judaism; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 05/20/2008 11:43:09 AM PDT by Alexius
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To: Alexius

Jews should know better about book burnings...


2 posted on 05/20/2008 11:47:07 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support for Obama.)
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To: Alexius
The newspaper Maariv reported Tuesday that hundreds of yeshiva students took part in the book-burning. But Aharon told The Associated Press that only a few students were present

What a surprise -- a liberal rag exaggerating to suit their agenda.

3 posted on 05/20/2008 11:49:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Alexius

a handful of jackasses, there’s some in every group.


4 posted on 05/20/2008 11:50:43 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Alexius; Alouette

Wait a sec.
If they were given these New Testament books, they are free to do with them what they want, right?

They didn’t burn the missionaries, they burnt the books.

And isn’t there a rule about forced evangilizing in the very orthodox areas of Israel?
Maybe I’m wrong, can you help Alouette?


5 posted on 05/20/2008 11:50:47 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom
They didn’t burn the missionaries, they burnt the books.

But they shouldn't give the appearance of emulating their worst modern persecutors.

And isn’t there a rule about forced evangilizing in the very orthodox areas of Israel?

What's "forced" about what the missionaries did?

6 posted on 05/20/2008 11:53:42 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Mr. Mojo
What a surprise -- a liberal rag exaggerating to suit their agenda.

I don't know. I wouldn't exactly take the mayor's word for it either. Look for footage of the burnings.

7 posted on 05/20/2008 11:55:13 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Well that may be so but that does not take away from the barbarism of burning the New Testament.


8 posted on 05/20/2008 12:00:21 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: SolidWood
Jews should know better about book burnings

Exactly. But maybe the government schools are as bad over there as they are here and they don't learn their own history.

9 posted on 05/20/2008 12:01:26 PM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: Alexius

Seems like yeshiva students are just as ignorant of history as public school students are in our own country. Who was it that said “Once they start burning books they will be burning people next?” Sad. :(


10 posted on 05/20/2008 12:02:39 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bible toting, bitter and armed with slashing sarcasm.)
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To: Alexius

Jews burning books??? Amazing! I guess it just slipped their minds that the people of the area can simply ***ignore*** the missionaries and any literature they might hand out.


11 posted on 05/20/2008 12:02:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Women swooned in Mao's presence too.)
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To: Alexius
Let the riots begin!/sarc

...set fire to hundreds of copies of the New Testament in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries...

How is setting books on fire "violence"? Is this like the new lib-speak "verbal violence" crap?

I believe that the Bible is God's Word but the paper itself is not to be revered. I would like it to be respected sure, but now it's "violence" to burn them?

12 posted on 05/20/2008 12:02:49 PM PDT by marinamuffy (I really dislike McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: Pyro7480
>>What's “forced” about what the missionaries did?<<

I may be wrong in my term. But I think there are areas where the really Orthodox have ruled like a “no solicitors” rule. Where a person can live without missionaries (you know, like the one's I get at my front door) passing out stuff.

Here in MI, we have that rule in my city. It's stopped the publications and well dressed couples from ringing my doorbell.

Besides what I read, about six students did this. In my neighborhood they'd have a parent called and get pulled home by the ear. (after they cleaned up the mess)

13 posted on 05/20/2008 12:02:59 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Alexius
Its cheap paper and ink. The words should be written on the fleshy tables of our heart.

These Orthodox Jews have that Law in them and it works wrath, even against those who would lay down their life for Israel. Wrath because they have no covering for their sin and can only follow a set of Laws that their fathers couldn't even follow.

Faith in the death burial and resurrection will set them at liberty. The New testament is just words written on paper and burning it is hardly barbaric.

14 posted on 05/20/2008 12:06:51 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Alexius

>>Well that may be so but that does not take away from the barbarism of burning the New Testament.<<

Barbarism? I’m not sure I agree with you on this.
We are Christians, we don’t get in a tizzy about disrespect for paper.


15 posted on 05/20/2008 12:06:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Alexius

Why are you posting this? Are you trying to incite a flamewar between Jews and Christians?


16 posted on 05/20/2008 12:06:56 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Alexius
Well that may be so but that does not take away from the barbarism of burning the New Testament.

The difference between a few pyro-happy students and hundreds is quite significant, actually. The former shouldn't be a story at all. ...especially if no one was injured.

17 posted on 05/20/2008 12:08:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: marinamuffy

I think that they are trying to equate Christians with Muslims and provoke the same type of reaction as Muslims to the burning of the Koran.


18 posted on 05/20/2008 12:09:13 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Alexius
barbarism

lol...drama queen.

19 posted on 05/20/2008 12:11:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: netmilsmom
If they were given these New Testament books, they are free to do with them what they want, right?

Wow. Would you feel the same way if it were Muhammadans doing this? Or burning the Torah?

20 posted on 05/20/2008 12:15:34 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Alexius

So you don’t see the problem of Jewish students, regardless of number, being involved in book burning?


21 posted on 05/20/2008 12:17:01 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Alexius
Or Yehuda Deputy Mayor Uzi Aharon said missionaries recently ... distributing hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material. After receiving complaints, Aharon said, he got into a loudspeaker car .. and drove through the neighborhood, urging people to turn over the material to Jewish religious students who went door to door to collect it.

"The books were dumped into a pile and set afire in a lot near a synagogue," he said. "Not all of the New Testaments that were collected were burned, but hundreds were," he said.

"I certainly don't denounce the burning of the booklets, he said. I denounce those who distributed the booklets."

Police had no immediate comment.

Earlier this year, the teenage son of a prominent Christian missionary was seriously wounded when a package bomb delivered to the family's West Bank home went off in his hands.

Last year, arsonists burst into a Jerusalem church used by Messianic Jews and set the building on fire, raising suspicions that Jewish extremists were behind the attack. No one claimed responsibility, but the same church was burned down 25 years ago by ultra-Orthodox Jewish extremists.

Calling Abe Foxman and the ADL. please pick up the White Courtesy phone.


Some people just neeeeeeever learn.

22 posted on 05/20/2008 12:18:53 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: normy
The New testament is just words written on paper and burning it is hardly barbaric.

So would you be okay with Muhammadans gathering up Torah scrolls and burning them?

23 posted on 05/20/2008 12:20:01 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Pyro7480; Alexius
Sure I do. They're idiots who deserve a spanking from the principal (or whoever runs that joint). But newsworthy? Only for those wanting to start trouble where none exists.

The threadmeister has not a clue as to what real barbarism is.

24 posted on 05/20/2008 12:21:25 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t know. I find it barbaric when people burn things they don’t like. Especially my Sacred Scriptures.


25 posted on 05/20/2008 12:21:26 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Pyro7480

I think it was wrong for those students to burn those books.

I think it is wrong for people to blame all Jews for the actions of a few ignorant students.

And I think it’s very wrong for someone to post a thread like this and attempt to goad Jews and Christians into fighting each other, at a time when we need to stand together to face the threat of Islamic terrorism.


26 posted on 05/20/2008 12:21:41 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: JillValentine
Why are you posting this? Are you trying to incite a flamewar between Jews and Christians?

Should we ignore news stories from an Israeli Paper about Jews burning Christians Scripture for the sake of not causing disharmony?

27 posted on 05/20/2008 12:23:26 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

>>Wow. Would you feel the same way if it were Muhammadans doing this? Or burning the Torah? <<

I wouldn’t call it barbaric. Just like saying that a Koran was flushed shouldn’t get the Muslims in a tizzy.

It was tasteless and something that I don’t like, but understanding that it was six students, come on. It’s paper.

Now if a bunch of people smashed a church, yes I would be upset, because it is someone else’s property. But these books were given away.

You see tons of them in the trash at airports. I don’t think that’s barbaric. In poor taste, yes.


28 posted on 05/20/2008 12:23:54 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Okay. So it’s a matter of numbers then.


29 posted on 05/20/2008 12:24:26 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Name calling. Good for you. You are a giant.


30 posted on 05/20/2008 12:25:34 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Condor51

>>Earlier this year, the teenage son of a prominent Christian missionary was seriously wounded when a package bomb delivered to the family’s West Bank home went off in his hands. <<

Don’t Muslims hate Christian Missionaries? Isn’t it the Muslims who use bombs?

Just saying.


31 posted on 05/20/2008 12:26:06 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Alexius

Just exposing you for who you — a troublestarting drama queen.


32 posted on 05/20/2008 12:26:32 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

It’s hilarious that you are choosing to attack me rather than deal with the fact that you are defending the indefensible.


33 posted on 05/20/2008 12:27:54 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius
My problem with the Muslims is their desire to force respect of their religion on other people.

Christians love Jerusalem and the Jewish people. Jerusalem is spoken of throughout the New Testament.

I say this because Jews and Christians have a bond and that is Israel. Islam is a made up religion revolving around vengeance. All the writings in all the books are just paper and ink.

Jesus said, Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words wont, and no amount of burning of the New Testament can change that.

34 posted on 05/20/2008 12:27:57 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: JillValentine
I think it is wrong for people to blame all Jews for the actions of a few ignorant students.

Who did that?

35 posted on 05/20/2008 12:29:45 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: netmilsmom

Exactly, burn em, flush em..Christ will still forgive, and so will Christians.

Now try this with the Koran.

Besides, the Romans already tried this (metaphorically, they just used Christians since they didn’t have bibles)...it doesn’t work


36 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:03 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Pyro7480

>>So you don’t see the problem of Jewish students, regardless of number, being involved in book burning?<<

I think it was a ridiculously stupid move on the part of those students who didn’t at all catch the irony of the situation.

I hope each of them get the smackdown from their parents when they get home.

But I’m not going to look down on Israel because of some students.

Geez, I hope they don’t judge us by the Berkley campus!!!!!!


37 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:24 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Alexius
defending the indefensible

Ah, I see you missed my post #24. ....or just conveniently ignored it. I clearly condemned the idiots who did this.

38 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:58 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: netmilsmom

So because Muslims are barbarians, Jews get a free pass.


39 posted on 05/20/2008 12:31:29 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Just exposing you for who you — a troublestarting drama queen.

And you are a lightweight who can't process information that counters your binary thinking. But hey keep looking like a idiot you seem to enjoy it.

40 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:30 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

They are words are paper...but they are not *just* words.

What do you suppose these folks are so worried about? If they were JUST words on paper, they wouldn’t care a bit.


41 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:34 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Alexius

Oh please. You give away free bibles, you won’t like what happens to some of them. That’s life.


42 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:41 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Alexius
Dang are you dense. Jihadists (Muslims) kill people on a mass scale. These a just a few nutty Jews burning pulp. Drawing a comparison between the two is asinine. ...but par for the course for you, evidently.
43 posted on 05/20/2008 12:34:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Alexius

>>So because Muslims are barbarians, Jews get a free pass<<

No. It’s the reactions.
The Muslims freak out when the “Holy Book” is touched.
Christians go, “Wow, that’s nasty.” and go on because we know that the power is not in the pages but in the words themselves.


44 posted on 05/20/2008 12:36:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: forkinsocket

But it was enormously stupid for the students to burn them, just for how it looks.


45 posted on 05/20/2008 12:38:38 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’m sorry that the American educational system failed you as it did.


46 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:05 PM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

And actually, it made the kids look just plain dumb.

The FReepers are shaking their heads at the Irony. It’s a Duh moment.


47 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:41 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Alexius

lol...nice argument there, Alexius. Run out of moronic things to say? You’ve certainly run the gamut.


48 posted on 05/20/2008 12:40:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Pyro7480

HA! Great minds think alike!!! Look at 47.


49 posted on 05/20/2008 12:40:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Pyro7480

They know how it looks, they don’t care. That’s their decision.


50 posted on 05/20/2008 12:44:46 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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