Schaeffer has been an outspoken hater of Bush and the war, even though his son chose to go fight.
He IS the son of evangelical great Francis Schaeffer...but has drifted from his father's world view.
Posted on 06/08/2008 11:12:24 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
“I am an Obama supporter. I am also pro-life. In fact, without my family’s involvement in the pro-life movement it would not exist as we know it. Evangelicals weren’t politicized until after my late father and evangelical leader Francis Schaeffer, Dr. Koop (Reagan’s soon-to-be Surgeon General) and I stirred them up over the issue of abortion in the mid-1970s. Our Whatever Happened to the Human Race? book, movie series and seminars brought the evangelicals into the pro-life movement.
“In 2000, we elected a president who claimed he believed God created the earth and who, as president, put car manufacturers and oil company’s interests ahead of caring for that creation. We elected a pro-life Republican Congress that did nothing to actually care for pregnant women and babies. And they took their sincere evangelical followers for granted, and played them for suckers…the “pro-life” ethic of George W. Bush manifested itself in a series of squandered opportunities to call us to our better natures. After 9/11, Bush told most Americans to go shopping while saddling the few who volunteered for military service with endless tours of duty (something I know a little about since my son was a Marine and deployed several times). The Bush doctrine of life was expressed by starting an unnecessary war in Iraq that has killed thousands of Americans and wounded tens of thousands more.
“Today when I listen to Obama speak (and to his remarkable wife, Michelle) what I hear is a world view that actually nurtures life. Obama is trying to lead this country to a place where the intrinsic worth of each individual is celebrated. A leader who believes in hope, the future, trying to save our planet and providing a just and good life for everyone is someone who is actually pro-life.”
(Excerpt) Read more at zoecarnate.wordpress.com ...
Beware the wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Socialism is a rabid wolf.
You got that right. There are a whole slew of these guys around now. Solid Christians used to be solidly conservative. Now we see this conservative Catholic theologian, Kriec, and this guy..as well as others. There are obviously some very confused folks out there.
Frankie’s been “off the reservation” for some time.
The son of the great Francis Shaeffer has fallen away into apostasy.
This guy is voting for Obama, ‘cause he was duped by Dubya?
How stupid is that! Wait’ll Obama’s minions enforce a Human Rights Tribunal like Canada has. This guy won’t be able to breathe without permission.
I thought Frankie Schaeffer converted to Eastern Orthodoxy?
I am sure Hitler promised ‘hope, “celebrating an individuals self worth, and a good life for all” just like the Antichrist is doing now.
“To the trains, people, to the trains” move it along, nothing to see here....to the trains..”
Obama is trying to lead this country to a place where the intrinsic worth of each individual is celebrated.
Yeah, great, whatever. Obama wants me disarmed, ie. dead. By me, that's not pro-life.
Not according to his website.
Here is scriptural support for this:
Matthew 24:10-14
10Then many will fall away,* and they will betray one another and hate one another. 11And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12And because of the increase of lawlessness, the love of many will grow cold. 13But anyone who endures to the end will be saved. 14And this good news* of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world, as a testimony to all the nations; and then the end will come.
Supporting someone who supports downright infanticide is not pro-life.
I believe you are confusing him with his Papi.
The title is a bit misleading. Franky is not an evangelical.
He hasn’t left all of his roots, and I suspect he’ll be back someday - but it’s a gross exaggeration to say he’s an evangelical.
What a punk! Taking credit for all his father’s fine pro-life work in one breath, and throwing it all away for Obama in the next.
Francis Schaeffer would be so very very disappointed in this half-wit son of his.
No way can this guy be pro-life and pro-Obama.
Obama has voted repeatedly for abortion and partial birth abortion.
He also accepts money from Planned Parenthood, and saw that Planned Parenthood got an earmark.
‘Bama = corruption and killing humans.
Change your mind Frank Schaeffer!
Can we get contact emails, phone number, mailing address for this guy?
It’s English, but it makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks, you are fast!
The apple has fallen very far from the tree. The sad thing, of course, is that he is trading on his father’s name.
I try!
It’s Evangelicals like these that make me glad I’m a Fundamentalist.
You said: It’s Evangelicals like these that make me glad I’m a Fundamentalist.
*chuckle*
You can say the same about Robert Casey’s son.
What is it with these juniors?
I thought the same thing. Back in the late 70’s we attended a weekend seminar with Dr. Koop and Dr. Schaeffer. Frankie was nowhere to be seen. His part came when his dad let him make a video series out of the book and the lecture. He was in no way an originator of the movement.
Frank Schaeffer is not an Evangelical, he is Greek Orthodox. He is a curmudgeon now.
Three forms of evil.. Any that would/will vote for any of the three candidates is also EVIL... Evil is as evil does..
I believe you are confusing him with his Papi.
No, I don't think I am.
He IS the son of evangelical great Francis Schaeffer...but has drifted from his father's world view.
Frank is not an evangelical.
How these morons can compare the voluntary service of grown men and women who are defending our nation...to the unvoluntary murders of millions of innocent children...is so far beyond me that I can only respond by being infinitely more grateful for my faith in The Lord...Jesus, come quickly!
Wow. Who woulda thunk it?
Yes, there’s been a disturbing evangelical-environmental melding that is geared more to saving the Earth than to saving souls.
I think I’ll hit the abuse button on your headline. Frank Schaeffer isn’t an evangelical, he’s Greek Orthodox (unless he’s drifted on to something else now).
What’s your agenda here?
His father was the great Francis Schaeffer (follow your own link: “Frank Schaeffer, scion of intellectual fundamentalist demigod Francis Schaeffer, has come out in support of Barak Obama” http://zoecarnate.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/frank-schaeffer-pro-life-and-pro-obama/
And Frank’s son is John Schaeffer, who joined the USMC.
So again, what is your agenda for trying to tag the evangelicals?
“This is a VERY strange political season.”
Not really. All this has been seen before. I know Obambi is a Marxist from who he associates with and shares their philosophy.
I think what is appealing to the conservatives disenchanted with the GOP and the admin, is Marx’s Theory of Alienation.
Obambi is presenting it sugar-coated. A lot of Marx sounds good in theory, but disasterous in practice. Stalin and the old Soviet Union are being presented now as miscarriages of Marxian principle. So, the game is now to turn a fully capitalized civilization into a Marxist paradise. It’s probably crossed with that abomination, Communitarianism, e.g, Bill Clinton’s abortive thrust into it.
And it will invariably have the same results. Marxism and Hegelian thought are just evils.
My fear is that people are not aware of history, and the chilren today certainly have absolutely no understanding of the past.
No, they're not.
Learn more about the father - Francis A. Schaeffer.
Father (Reformed):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=J06&q=francis.schaeffer&btnG=Search
Son (Greek Orthodox)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=U06&q=frankie.schaeffer&btnG=Search
“I am an Obama supporter. I am also pro-life.
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How does one do that ???????????????
Romney made me sick to my stomach with his abortion pushing ways..
As a lifetime pro-lifer, I couldnt back a anti-life type..
Obama supports the murder of babies after they are partially born.
But soon he will have to answer about murder in his former church and his 1999 drug and sexscape with Larry Sinclair.
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IN 1999 did obsama sell and buy cocaine?
Schaeffer has taken the position that being “pro-life” also means being anti-war—so why wasn’t he gung-ho for Ron Paul?
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Good point......
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