Skip to comments.Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound
Posted on 06/10/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
One of the beautiful aspects of self evident truths is that they can be proven on both the simplest and the most complex of levels. By contrast, to make an argument for what is in fact an illogical fallacy, one must use plenty of skill, sophistry and remain beholden to a dogmatic protection of what is really an illogical position.
Yet even after a detailed case is made for the illogical side of the argument, it can instantly be deflated like a balloon with the simplest poke of clear logic. It can also be attacked piece by piece with even greater skill and logic, stemming from a steadfast pursuit of the truth.
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The simplest proof (yet one that no atheist has ever been able to counter effectively) is that a universe of this size and magnitude does not somehow build itself, just as a set of encyclopedias doesn't write itself or form randomly from the spill of a massive inkblot. ...
Except an atheist could argue that the encyclopedia was created by humans, which are just the result of a random inkblot part of the universe, and thus, a godless(sic) universe is capable of creation. I don't believe this of course, but one needs to be careful of jumping on oversimplified arguments.
Ben Stein’s “Expelled” is the definitive answer to the questoin “Is there or can there be such a thing as an idiot with a 180 IQ?” Richard Dawkins comes off looking like a total idiot trying to defend atheist and evoloser positions logically.
But that's OK, 'cause logic doesn't do anything for atheists, either. At least, not sound logic.
Who made God?
For scientific purposes however the atheists do have an advantage in that they are not tied to any particular set of beliefs other than there being no God. There's no atheist bible or koran that they have to adhere to.
[... The question presumes that the universe was designed—which we do not know—whereas encyclopediae have been documented as to their design by an intelligent source...]
Chaos is observable and so is intelligent design.
I like to ask people to look at the complexity of
their own hand. Then ask how they continue to believe
there is no designer behind its intricately exquisite
design, form and function.
I’m steeling that.
That designer, is he dead? At least he doesn’t write or call me.
The article presupposes that the simplest answer is always the correct one, the simplest answer just being “God made it”. There are other preconditions being used: that evolution is random or that it operates one organ at a time, that orbits of planets are inherently unstable, that all things must have come together “in unison” for things to be as they are now. There are valid explanations for all these things apart from divine creation. I prefer to take a different view that doesn’t conflict with science: that God created a self-sustaining universe, just as a watch maker needs to wind up the watch but needn’t control every tick. If we were meant to have physical proof of God, every rock and tree would have “made by God” carved into it.
Interesting how you fail to consider the millions of species that have male and female types, which I guess, according to you, somehow evolved without anyone at the healm. The point wasn’t all animals, it was the magnitude of those that are and need for that to have been organized.
Likewise the planets. The fact that any orbit exists in perfect rotation shows a Creator. Stop spinning (all puns intended).
I think you’re too closed-minded to be hurling insults.
Have an aetheist Explain Gravity...or The Human Body!!
Let me give you a simple example. Ancients described events in their own language and interpretation and not in ours, thus there appear several instances in the OT in which God is said to kill somebody directly, e.g.
2SA 6:3 And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the new cart.
2SA 6:4 And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which was at Gibeah, accompanying the ark of God: and Ahio went before the ark.
2SA 6:5 And David and all the house of Israel played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.
2SA 6:6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.
2SA 6:7 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.
Now, there are two basic interpretations one could arrive at reading this:
Again those people wrote in their language, not ours. Static electricity was part of several antique means of trying to communicate with the spirit world. The pyramids themselves were gigantic lightning rods with golden tips which glowed permanently; the word "pyramid" itself is a Greek word, the root part of which is the same "pyr" (fire) which we oberve in words like "pyrotechnics" or "pyromania".
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