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To: wendy1946
Stein was unfair to Dawkins. When they filmed Expelled, they didn't tell Dawkins what their intent was (they told him that they wanted to make a neutral movie about the intelligent design controversy). Stein asked Dawkins if he could possibly imagine a scenario where life on Earth was designed. Dawkins suggested, off the top of his head, that perhaps aliens did it. What is not clear in the movie is that Dawkins does not believe that at all. (There were other problems with the movie, which made me give it a big thumbs-down.)
12 posted on 06/10/2008 7:17:27 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: megatherium
Dawkins spoke of space aliens as if he was not aware that the space alien hypothesis only kicks the can down the road one block and does not solve the basic problem; Ben Stein did not force him to do that. Aside from that it is clear enough that Dawkins has basically read through bits and pieces of the OT without understanding it and gained nothing from the exercise other than a misconceived hatred for the God of the OT.

Let me give you a simple example. Ancients described events in their own language and interpretation and not in ours, thus there appear several instances in the OT in which God is said to kill somebody directly, e.g.

2SA 6:3 And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the new cart.

2SA 6:4 And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which was at Gibeah, accompanying the ark of God: and Ahio went before the ark.

2SA 6:5 And David and all the house of Israel played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.

2SA 6:6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.

2SA 6:7 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

Now, there are two basic interpretations one could arrive at reading this:

Again those people wrote in their language, not ours. Static electricity was part of several antique means of trying to communicate with the spirit world. The pyramids themselves were gigantic lightning rods with golden tips which glowed permanently; the word "pyramid" itself is a Greek word, the root part of which is the same "pyr" (fire) which we oberve in words like "pyrotechnics" or "pyromania".

19 posted on 06/10/2008 7:37:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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