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Is The Christian Bubble About To Burst?
Cross Action News ^ | 6-14-08 | Carl Sterling Parnell, Ed.D.

Posted on 06/14/2008 4:36:09 AM PDT by Victory111

Edited on 06/14/2008 5:53:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Several factors have caused the United States to deny its Christian heritage. First, after World War II, many immigrants moved to the United States. Many of these immigrants brought with them their non-Christian religious beliefs and their undemocratic political ideologies. Also, as decades and centuries have passed, the number of people who belong to non-Christian religions has increased tremendously. Therefore, these non-Christian religions are giving Christianity some serious competition. As a result of this religious competition, Christianity is gradually losing its recognition as being America’s most favored religion.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianheritage; christians

1 posted on 06/14/2008 4:36:10 AM PDT by Victory111
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To: Victory111
I don't think the USA will fade away as easily as Europe. Many immigrants, especially in the early decades, left Europe for the New World for religious reasons. That exodus of the faithful dealt Europe a spiritual blow from which it has never recovered and provided this land with a spiritual underpinning that has not yet been totally squandered.
2 posted on 06/14/2008 4:42:49 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Victory111

This is no bubble, it is the Kingdom of God, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Amen!


3 posted on 06/14/2008 4:43:48 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Victory111
Christianity is gradually losing its recognition as being America’s most favored religion

I'm not really concerned as to whether Christianity is America's most "favored" religion. God can take care of that part - we've had a series of sweeping Christian awakenings throughout our history. But I am concerned about relentless attempts by some to deny the powerful and positive influence of Christianity in the founding and success of this country.

4 posted on 06/14/2008 4:50:50 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: vimto

This is no bubble, it is the Kingdom of God, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Amen!
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And Amen


5 posted on 06/14/2008 4:51:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Victory111; Religion Moderator

Should be listed as an excerpt...more story at link.


6 posted on 06/14/2008 4:52:00 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Victory111

When Truth doesn’t matter, Christianity will no longer be...The university selfish denying socialist, atheist, and agnostics are all trying to push relativity. Unfortunately, enough mush brains are accepting this illogical, ridiculous concept.


7 posted on 06/14/2008 4:52:08 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Victory111
Is The Christian Bubble About To Burst?

Nope.

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8 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:27 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LikeLight
But I am concerned about relentless attempts by some to deny the powerful and positive influence of Christianity in the founding and success of this country.

You might want to talk to a Native American and see if they share your opinion.

9 posted on 06/14/2008 4:56:30 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Victory111

I have read that the most rapidly growing religious affiliation in this country is “no religion,” now 14 percent of the population.


10 posted on 06/14/2008 4:58:00 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: Victory111

11 posted on 06/14/2008 4:58:01 AM PDT by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: vimto

Amen!


12 posted on 06/14/2008 4:58:08 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Victory111

Nothing says “bubble” like the airheads who keep using that word.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 4:58:37 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: vimto
You are absolutely correct but the definition of "Christianity" is definitely being changed. The term is being used so loosely when in fact many of these so-called "Christian" churches have very little Christ left in them.

These National Council of Churches "churches" are prime on the list of not really being Christian at all.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

14 posted on 06/14/2008 5:01:27 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Victory111

The gates of hell will not prevail. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be suffering and persecution. The most disturbing trend is the perversion of Christianity which now attempts to take things that always were sins and now call them good and Godly. Christ wouldn’t judge, right? Wrong. He just helped people to see their sin with their own eyes and call it what it was,and repent from it.


15 posted on 06/14/2008 5:06:05 AM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Hey you left out the Unitarians!

Q: How do you recognize a person who was born in a family where one parent was a Jehovah’s Witness and the other a Unitarian?

A: They go around knocking on doors for no particular reason


16 posted on 06/14/2008 5:09:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Victory111
It would not be the UNdemocratic principles brought by immigrants that would bother me. It would be their DEMOCRATIC principles.

The United States is supposed to operate as a representative REPUBLIC. This is what most immigrants are not made to understand, and it seems most natural born citizens have been ill-trained in these things as well.

17 posted on 06/14/2008 5:10:09 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Victory111

As I see it the bubble has already burst. Some of us have remarked that we are currently in a post-Evangelical era. When the most recognizable pastor in America is Joel Osteen, and the most “successful” churches in America are social clubs with a Sunday morning production that’s more theater than worship - it’s fairly safe to say that American Evangelism is dead.

The hope for the church in America is not marketing surveys, focus groups, feel-good sermons, or mega-churches: it’s the Gospel.


18 posted on 06/14/2008 5:12:15 AM PDT by PastorTony
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To: informavoracious

Thank you for expanding on my post no. 14.


19 posted on 06/14/2008 5:14:35 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: silverleaf

Maybe the Unitarians don’t belong to the NCC. I don’t know but you’re absolutely correct. I love your joke.


20 posted on 06/14/2008 5:15:40 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I didn’t know Unitarians were Christians. I thought they were a social club of agnostics, JINOs and tree worshippers. At least, that is what a few of their parishioners I know seem like.


21 posted on 06/14/2008 5:23:49 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Victory111
I think Christians just feel differently about going to church...the group thing...And out "TIME" is spent in many different ways now. We're an "active" society...A little different from days gone by when everything stopped on Sunday.

I have a few old books....Even travel was restricted on Sundays...Vermont...circa 1790...from an old diary by a Holland Land Company Speculator.

22 posted on 06/14/2008 5:26:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Victory111
The following, by Ray Moore, is why a growing number of people are listing themselves as "No Religion".

Salt & Light, The Great Commission & Who's Responsible for Educating Your Children

Salt & Light, The Great Commission & Who's Responsible for Educating Your Children || Who's Converting Whom ||

The reality of the situation is that very little Christian witnessing is ever done by children in public schools to begin with. As with everything else in life, there are of course some exceptions to the rule.

Without question, the lion's share of converting and witnessing is accomplished through the public education curriculum, peer pressure from other children -- most of whom are non-Christian -- and educators who implant (either subtly or obviously and conscientiously or unconscientiously) their humanistic, neo-pagan or new age doctrines within the minds and hearts of Christian children. These children, I might add, are a captive audience with little or no chance to speak up or opportunity to rebut their teachers.

The research data on the success of the public schools in indoctrinating Christian youth with humanistic or neo-pagan worldviews is overwhelming. The Nehemiah Institute's worldview PEERS test shows that 83-percent of the children from committed Christian families in public schools adopt a secular humanist or Marxist socialist worldview. At the SBC's 2002 annual meeting, the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life reported, among other disturbing things, that 88-percent of the children raised in evangelical homes leave church at age 18. Barna Research reports that only 9-percent of born-again teens believe in moral absolutes, and more than half believe that Jesus sinned while He was on earth. We believe the fact that 80-percent of Christian families send their children to public schools is a prime reason for this lost legacy.

23 posted on 06/14/2008 5:44:22 AM PDT by wintertime (A mother is as happy as her least successful child.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

I googled “Unitarian, National Council of Churches” and this is one of the hits I found. This should be enough to open the eyes of even the most stubborn left in any of the “churches” on the NCC list. http://mockit.tribe.net/thread/50f012d8-4176-40f4-ae25-f14bf181d731


24 posted on 06/14/2008 5:53:59 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Sure I take your point.

‘One worldism’ will continue to grow because the world and many professing Christians are decieved. It’s a serious issue and I do not want to make light of it. It is through being watchful and prayerful that some can be rescued from the fire...so thanks for the post, it is an important issue.


25 posted on 06/14/2008 5:59:38 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Victory111

PING=LATER


26 posted on 06/14/2008 6:00:57 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

IMHO, a major reason so many from Christian heritage fail to behave in a Christian fashion stems from many local churches and pastors having adopted worldly metrics and cultural norms. Albeit conservative or nonoffensive, very few local churches stress teaching the Word to their congregation.

A list of church vices include:

Counseling versus teaching the Word
Moral commentary versus teaching the Word
Substituting an Altar Call for communicating the Word.
Church activities vs teaching the Word.
Seminary ordained pastors vs God ordained pastors.
20 seconds of Scripture in a 5 minute sermon 40 minutes into a 1 hour church service.

The best way for the Church to thrive is simply to perform as God has provided. Those with their respective spiritual gifts are to remain in fellowship with Him, let Him drive the Church and lead the way.

Young believers are naturally attracted to follow and learn about Him through faith in Christ. When distracted, interrupted, discouraged, and counterfeited, young believers may begin to drift away and become scarred in regenerate behavior.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 6:15:19 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: sirchtruth
When Truth doesn’t matter, Christianity will no longer be...The university selfish denying socialist, atheist, and agnostics are all trying to push relativity. Unfortunately, enough mush brains are accepting this illogical, ridiculous concept.

Indeed. Many have become that of which Isaiah wrote:

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; they put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! ~Isaiah 5:20

28 posted on 06/14/2008 6:15:32 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Cvengr

Very thoughtful post. I see this creeping liberalism in churches as being a root cause of creeping liberalism in our general society. What was unthinkable 50 years ago is now accepted. It’s enough to make one weep.


29 posted on 06/14/2008 6:23:07 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Victory111
“Also, as decades and centuries have passed, the number of people who belong to non-Christian religions has increased tremendously. Therefore, these non-Christian religions are giving Christianity some serious competition. As a result of this religious competition, Christianity is gradually losing its recognition as being America’s most favored religion”

Dr. Parnell obviously has no concept of the 2000 years of Christian history. It has always been under attack. Starting with the early Roman empires, to the surge of Islam that slaughtered Christians by the thousands, and on and on.

But this rag-tag bunch of Christians who remain faithful, in the face of antagonistic governments, armies of heretics, and powerful interest groups, keeps on keeping on and in the end - Christ wins.

30 posted on 06/14/2008 7:06:38 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
“I see this creeping liberalism in churches as being a root cause of creeping liberalism in our general society. What was unthinkable 50 years ago is now accepted. It’s enough to make one weep.”

J. Gersham Machen saw this coming decades ago...Find a copy of his book (written in 1923) titled: “Christianity & Liberalism”. Francis Schaeffer also wrote extensively about this in the 1970’s.

31 posted on 06/14/2008 9:24:12 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Victory111

It’s a relationship with Christ, not a religion God doesn’ deal in numbers he deals with each person’s heart!


32 posted on 06/14/2008 11:55:27 AM PDT by JSDude1 (It;s only a protest vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd-pissant)
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To: ninonitti
You might want to talk to a Native American and see if they share your opinion.

I've witnessed Native Americans in full traditional regalia involved in leading Christian worship events. It probably depends on which Native American you talk to.

33 posted on 06/14/2008 8:46:08 PM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: JSDude1

So many confuse religion with the ability to have a sincere relationship with God through faith in Christ.

1stJohn wonderfully describes how we may have all been redeemed, but it isn’t until one returns to Him on His grounds, by His methods, that we have forgiveness.

Without forgiveness there is no continuing life or walking with Him as a fellowship with Him.


34 posted on 06/14/2008 8:51:16 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Good grief..........this list does not even have the Roman Catholic Church on it.

Thus, the entire thesis of the article is warped, in my opinion.

Combe back to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that has been in existence for over 2000 years.


35 posted on 06/14/2008 9:00:05 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Whoo hoo!! My church is NOT on that list!!


36 posted on 06/15/2008 6:28:17 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: vimto; Conservativegreatgrandma

I’ve been telling my wife that the “global warming” worship of the earth reminds me of Babel, the concept that the inhabitants of God’s creation can essentially reach him by becoming one together, etc...it’s eerily reoccuring now to some degree in my view...


37 posted on 06/15/2008 6:30:45 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Salvation

Re-read the post, it was noting churches that are NOT Christian, I’d hope you were wanting the RCC on that kind of list ;-)


38 posted on 06/15/2008 6:32:46 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Salvation

correction to post 37...

should read hoping RCC is not on that list...in any event, be thankful it’s not a Christian church that really isn’t...

Blessings...


39 posted on 06/15/2008 6:34:02 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Isaiah 5:20

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

40 posted on 06/15/2008 6:42:33 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: phatus maximus

good!!


41 posted on 06/15/2008 6:49:49 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: phatus maximus

Except most of these heathens believe they are gods.


42 posted on 06/15/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: phatus maximus

Except most of these heathens believe they are gods.


43 posted on 06/15/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: afnamvet

Thank you.


44 posted on 06/15/2008 6:54:23 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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