Posted on 06/16/2008 9:47:48 AM PDT by Plainsman
For 40 years, English Catholic worship has been controlled by a bossy alliance of bishops and politically correct activists known as the "Sandalistas". Now, a Colombian-born cardinal close to the Pope effectively announced that their time has come to an end.
Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos – speaking as an emissary of Pope Benedict – revealed that every parish in England and Wales will be required to offer worshippers the ancient Latin Mass detested by the Sandalistas.
This is great news not just for the Latin Mass Society, but also for growing number of young Catholics who hate going to church because services have been hijacked by Sandalistas.
They are tired of seeing smug lay ministers of Holy Communion parading around the altar as if they were priests, of endless bidding prayers about climate change, and above all by the fake folk music imposed on them by bad amateur composers.
Cardinal Castrillon, president of the pontifical commission Ecclesia Dei, can expect to become a hate figure for Sandalistas. This will not worry him. Before he moved to the Vatican, he took on none other than Pablo Escobar, the notorious drug smuggler. Disguised as a milkman, he negotiated a truce with him – and also heard his confession on the spot.
A man who has faced up to Colombia's most feared drugs baron will not be intimidated by a few geriatric Catholic trendies.
This is great news.
This is good news.
Lets be JOYFUL about it, not triumphalistic.
Then again,
lets not pretend that latin is a panacea,
and
lets not deny that that exquisitely sublime Masses can be offered in English.
Read some of the other threads and the original statement, if you can (I assume it is in Italian). There is some controversy about whether this actually amounted to a directive or merely a wistful “it would be nice if....”
Also, the statement, if it amounts to an order, ostensibly applies to every Catholic parish worldwide — not just the U.K. But I have yet to read even a translation, much less the original statement.
Rules for the Public Celebration of the Traditional Latin Mass:The faithful who desire public celebrations (scheduled Masses) of the Traditional Latin Mass (and other sacraments) should approach their pastor, and "the pastor should willingly accept their requests." Such public celebrations "may take place on working days; while on Sundays and feast days one such celebration may also be held."
The provision for Sundays and feast days ensures that, on days when Catholics are obligated to attend Mass, at least one Mass will be celebrated according to the Novus Ordo, since parishes are supposed to have a minimum of two Masses on Sundays and holy days.
The Role of the Bishop:
In the past, the bishop determined whether a priest of his diocese could use the 1962 Missal. Now, the decision is left to the priest, while the faithful are empowered to request it. "If a group of lay faithful . . . has not obtained satisfaction to their requests from the pastor, they should inform the diocesan bishop. The bishop is strongly requested to satisfy their wishes."
The bishop may also "erect a personal parish . . . for celebrations following the ancient form of the Roman rite." In other words, "Summorum Pontificum" ensures that bishops will provide for wide celebration of the Traditional Latin Mass.
Good news - victory of the Church over the Sandalistas ping!
“Sandalistas” - I love that term!
You might enjoy this, Church gives thumb in eye to the Sandalistas! Things like this make my day!
Our choir loft is quite toasty, especially when it's this hot. With wool choir robes, I wear light cotton dresses and sandals . . . it's that, or parboil.
But that’s last summer’s news!
It appears that the remarks of Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos come from a news conference he held in London, and all of the original remarks are in English. So it would seem that nothing was “lost in translation” from Italian to English. The Cardinal’s English appears to be rather good, so I would think he stated his views in English accurately with regard to what he intended to convey. Here is something I posted earlier today with a good chunk of the exchange: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/june08/traditionallatinmass.htm
Well ain’t that somethun.
Splendid.
Wow. Definitely a man who trusts in the Lord with all his heart.
What Pope Benedict really wants...
quodlibet 16 Jun 2008 14:17
Pope Benedict (Cardinal Ratzinger at the time) wrote a letter in response to an enquiry by Herr Doctor Heinz-Lothar Barth, a reputed theological author and professor at the University of Bonn in 2004.
Here is an extract, which makes it clear what Benedict’s intentions for the liturgy were in 2004. The last paragraph is the crucial one.
Full text at: http://josephsoleary.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/11/a-frightening-l.html
and:
http://www.latinmassjax.org/augustnewsletter.htm
To Dr. Heinz-Lothar Barth, 23 June 2004
Dear Dr. Barth,
I thank you cordially for your letter of April 6 to which I find the time to answer only now. You are asking me to act for a broader availability of the old Roman rite. Actually, you know yourself that I have no deaf ears towards such a request. My work on behalf of this cause is meanwhile generally known.
Whether the Holy See will “admit the old rite again for every place and without restrictions” as you desire and have heard it rumoured cannot be simply answered or confirmed without further ado. Still too great is the aversion of many Catholics, instilled in them over many years, against the traditional liturgy which they scornfully call “preconciliar”. Also one would have to reckon with considerable resistance on the part of many bishops against a general readmission.
Things look different, however, if one thinks about a limited readmission. The demand for the old liturgy is limited, too. I know that its worth, of course, does not depend upon the demand for it, but the question of the number of interested priests and laypeople, nevertheless, plays a certain role. Besides, such a measure can now, only some 30 years after the liturgy reform of Paul VI, be implemented only stepwise. Any new hurry would surely not be a good thing.
I believe, though, that in the long term the Roman Church must have again a single Roman rite. The existence of two official rites is for bishops and priests difficult to “manage” in practice. The Roman rite of the future should be a single rite, celebrated in Latin or in the vernacular, but standing completely in the tradition of the rite that has been handed down. It could take up some new elements which have proven themselves, like new feasts, some new prefaces in the Mass, an expanded lectionary - more choice than earlier, but not too much, - an “oratio fidelium”, i.e., a fixed litany of intercessions following the Oremus before the offertory where it had its place earlier.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/june08/traditionallatinmass.htm
I found this at Damien Thompson’s blog posted by a member. It appears that Pope Benedict isn’t playing around and he wants one uniting rite - Gregorian Rite.
God bless the good Cardinal, but it seems to me that Thompson’s declaration of victory is a bit premature. Vatican officials can issue all the pronouncements and directives that they want, but they also need to follow up with concrete action. Heads need to roll. As long as the modernist bishops (and seminaries) in the US, the UK and continental Europe thumb their noses at Catholic tradition and get away with it, why should I believe that change is really coming?
>> Disguised as a milkman, he negotiated a truce with him – and also heard his confession on the spot. <<
Escobar prolly suspected something when the milkman offered him confession?
**The Roman rite of the future should be a single rite, celebrated in Latin or in the vernacular, but standing completely in the tradition of the rite that has been handed down. It could take up some new elements which have proven themselves, like new feasts, some new prefaces in the Mass, an expanded lectionary - more choice than earlier, but not too much, - an “oratio fidelium”, i.e., a fixed litany of intercessions following the Oremus before the offertory where it had its place earlier.**
Definite guidelines. It will happen.
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