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To: annalex

You have GOT to be kidding? Why should they marry?

Did you ever think that they love each other and want to have the benefits of legal marriage, etc.? Or that maybe they want to adopt kids or a host of other issues.

Oy. This is legalism at its finest and Christ condemned the legalists of his day and rightfully so.


29 posted on 06/16/2008 7:21:57 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

I suppose it depends on the laws of each state, but they can still get legally married in a civil ceremony and derive all the benefits of a legal marriage. Getting married in the Church wouldn’t have any effect on that.


42 posted on 06/16/2008 8:12:41 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Paved Paradise
You have GOT to be kidding? Why should they marry? Did you ever think that they love each other and want to have the benefits of legal marriage, etc.? Or that maybe they want to adopt kids or a host of other issues.

It's hard for the world of today to understand the true meaning of marriage as it has been contaminated with so many extraneous and secular motives but the primary end of marriage is fecundity. It is made in obedience to God's command to go forth and multiply. Christian marriage is geared to precisely this end; the creation of children. This is not "legalism". Mutual companionship and comfort are not primary ends of marriage. It is a union made before God for the purpose of producing offspring. If the primary end of marriage is voided, there can be no marriage.

It's an indication of how far we've strayed from the true meaning of marriage that such an idea should be met with shouts of horror and accusations of fundamentalism.

Oy. This is legalism at its finest and Christ condemned the legalists of his day and rightfully so.

Again, you're a little mixed up. He didn't condemn their legalism. He condemned their hypocrisy for not practicing what they taught. Read the Scriptures. Jesus told the people to obey the Pharisees because they were teachers of the law, but not to imitate their example.

51 posted on 06/16/2008 8:52:21 PM PDT by marshmallow (An infallible Bible is useless without an infallible interpreter)
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To: Paved Paradise

To your both posts.

Canons of the law are listed in the Wiki article, — Wikipedia’s overall accuracy is not an issue. If you don’t trust it, do your own research.

If the couple is capable of sexual union, they can marry. If they themselves declare that they cannot, don’t intend to try, and have a medical condition then they cannot have a sexual union. They can mutually inherit, adopt, live together, and everything else, but that is not called a marriage: a brother and sister can do that too and they certainly cannot be married no matter how much they love one another.

You argument, verbatim, is the argument for same sex “marriage”, by the way.

If a marriage is unsafe, the endangered spouse has every right to separate, and never see the abusive spouse again, and thus achieve safety. However, Christ was very clear that these circumstances, no matter how tragic, do not dissolve the marriage, and we Catholics go by what He said.


56 posted on 06/16/2008 9:08:13 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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