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To: Salvation

No thank you, I need no mediator between me and God except Jesus. I go straight to Him.

14 posted on 06/24/2008 8:46:54 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: T Minus Four

I will pray for you.

15 posted on 06/24/2008 9:10:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: T Minus Four

Exactly what has you so teed off at the Catholic Church?

Just curious.

16 posted on 06/24/2008 9:11:33 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: T Minus Four; philly-d-kidder; Salvation
Amen, T-4, amen.

P-D-K & Salvation: What part of "Thou shall have no other god before Me" is so hard to understand? It doesn't say, "Come unto [the Catholic church], all you who are weary and heavy-laden; take [the Catholic church's] yoke upon you, and learn of [the Catholic church], and you shall find rest unto your soul," does it? No, Christ says come unto Me... take My yoke... learn of Me.... referring only to Himself, not ever mentioning kneeling before yet another sinner (albeit in fancy duds, pointy hat & fabulous bling living it up in way beyond 5-star Rome digs) who kneels before alters and images of humans other than Jesus Christ.

Also, in case that isn't clear enough in the New Testament, what does the Torah/Old Testament say?

Exodus 20 - The Ten Commandments (NKJV)

1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “ Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

I didn't see any Eucharist commandment in the New Testament, either - Jesus said "Do this in rememberance of Me," not "Do this or you aren't saved."

P-D-K, you posted (on another thread; unnecessary mid-sentence capitalizations left intact) this to me the other day: ... In the Catholic Catechism putting yourself above GOD is Sin... How Can people who decide for them selves or Followed Man made Religions not Put themselves above Gods Church as they Know Better? But To ignore the Eucharist is the Real Folly!

Totally waiving your ignorant and baseless slam implying (again, ignorantly!) that I "put myself above God," I would implore you, with love and respect, to prayerfully (to Jesus, not Mary or any of the other icons) consider diving into the Word of God to see if it actually supports what the Catholic church teaches. You might be able to get over the Eucharist trip. You're willing to give me unsolicited, non-scriptural reading recommendations (same thread referenced above) coupled with a major slam implying I'm basically satanic (i.e. thinking I'm above my Creator!?!?!); check the Torah and the Bible first and get back to me if you can support your "Hellbound due to lack of Eucharist" claims.
37 posted on 06/25/2008 10:26:43 PM PDT by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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