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Obama to get Hanuman idol
The Times of India ^ | 24 Jun 2008

Posted on 06/25/2008 10:25:38 AM PDT by Sopater

NEW DELHI: With Democrat senator Barack Obama busy in the run-up to the US presidential polls, a group of well-wishers in the capital have decided to send him a symbol of his lucky charm, Lord Hanuman, to help him emerge victorious.

Obama's representative Carolyn Sauvage-Mar on Tuesday received a gold-plated two-feet-high idol which she will pass it on to the Obama after it is sanctified.

The idol is being presented to Obama as he is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

An hour-long prayer meeting to sanctify the idol was earlier organised at Sankat Mochan Dham and by Congress leader Brijmohan Bhama, Balmiki Samaj and the temple's priests.

"Obama has deep faith in Lord Hanuman and that is why we are presenting an idol of Hanuman to him," said Bhama.

Accepting the souvenir, Sauvage-Mar, who is chairperson of Democrats Abroad-India, said, "Obama has extended his thanks for the support."

However, questions on Obama's religious beliefs elicited just a smile from Sauvage-Mar, apparently to avoid controversy back home where the Democrat senator is pitted against the Republican Party's John McCain in the Presidential polls.

The idol will be kept at the temple for 11 more days and then sent to US.

"We will perform the prayers for 11 days and then hand the idol to Carolyn who will send it to Obama," said the temple priest.


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The idol is being presented to Obama as he is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

Who still thinks Obama is CHRISTIAN?

"What profit is the idol when its maker has carved it,
Or an image, a teacher of falsehood?
For its maker trusts in his own handiwork
When he fashions speechless idols."
- Habakkuk 2:18
1 posted on 06/25/2008 10:25:38 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Obamacan Idol


2 posted on 06/25/2008 10:27:39 AM PDT by mikrofon (Idol Chatterjee)
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To: Sopater

The Monkey God.

Oh, this is rich. I'm LOL here. A monkey god with a monkey's ass for a mouth.

LOLOLOL.

This ought to be Barack's new seal.

3 posted on 06/25/2008 10:30:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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To: EveningStar; Slings and Arrows

All Hail Lord Barack - The Moneky God!


5 posted on 06/25/2008 10:34:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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To: Sopater
Hanuman is a winged monkey:

Is giving Obama a monkey racist?

6 posted on 06/25/2008 10:35:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Kerry '08! ************* McCain's Dream Ticket, only the names have been reversed)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Can I make monkey jokes about Obama? Or would I get in trouble for that?

I know monkeys , I have worked with monkeys , monkeys are friends of mine . I can tell you Obambi is no monkey . Monkeys believe in private property , and will resist to the death the involuntary redistribution of the aforementioned monkey property .

7 posted on 06/25/2008 10:39:05 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Sopater

Regardless of their religious beliefts, many times political figures will receive gifts from foreign countries which could be described as religious in nature. Any gift given earnestly by honest people - whatever their beliefs may be - should be accepted in a like manner, earnestly and honestly. As a Christian, such a gift should be accepted as a symbol of the hopes and aspirations of the giver, and should be put in a public place in honor of the *givers*, not a personal place in honor of the *gift*. Honoring the giver - not the gift - takes it out of the realm of idolatry and puts it in the realm of gratitude.

Such is the nature of diplomacy and dealings on a national level, and we have a sign here of how Barak Obama deals with gifts; everything to him personal, a reflection of himself.

Instead of earnestly and honestly accepting this gift, this gift was accepted in secret through a proxy by a back way. This speaks volumes about Obama’s character, and it is not good.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 10:46:19 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: Responsibility2nd

Monkey? That looks like a woman with a cow’s tail.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 10:51:05 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: Responsibility2nd

"Hello... Hanuman." < /seinfeld >

12 posted on 06/25/2008 10:52:17 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: dandelion
I agree with everything that you said in that post. My point was that Barak is reported to be carrying a tiny monkey-god idol around with him for luck. This is not Christian.

Obama turns to Lord Hanuman for blessing
BARACK OBAMA, the 46-year-old Illinois senator, who emerged victorious in an epic 17-month long electoral battle for Democratic party nomination, by defeating his rival Hillary Clinton, carries a ’tiny monkey god’ with him for good luck. It apparently represents Lord Hanuman.

A recent photo posted on Time’s White House Photo of the Day collection shows that Obama carries with him a bracelet belonging to an American soldier deployed in Iraq, a gambler’s lucky chit, a tiny monkey god and a tiny Madonna and child.

13 posted on 06/25/2008 10:52:53 AM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: dandelion
The idol is being presented to Obama as he is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

Obama must think that we misinterpret the 10 Commandments too:

Do not have any other gods before me.

You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

14 posted on 06/25/2008 10:56:33 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: dandelion
As a Christian, such a gift should be accepted as a symbol of the hopes and aspirations of the giver, and should be put in a public place in honor of the *givers*, not a personal place in honor of the *gift*. Honoring the giver - not the gift - takes it out of the realm of idolatry and puts it in the realm of gratitude.

No - a true Christian would graciously explain that he is unable to accept such a gift
15 posted on 06/25/2008 10:58:51 AM PDT by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: dandelion
According to that article I posted in #14, McCain doesn't seem to fare much better...
It is not only Obama, who carries such lucky mascots. Republican candidate John McCain carries a lucky nickel, and a lucky rubber band, which he wears around his wrist, apart from a lucky penny. He also has a lucky sweater and a lucky hotel room in New Hampshire. The information was revealed by the caption on his photo.
I realize we're selecting a President and not a pastor, however I would sure like to have a President that follows the faith that they attest to.
16 posted on 06/25/2008 10:59:25 AM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Sopater
and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

Sheesh! Maybe he is the Antichrist after all.

17 posted on 06/25/2008 11:07:55 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

Sheesh! Maybe he is the Antichrist after all.

A lot of people are starting to wonder.

18 posted on 06/25/2008 11:09:56 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Sopater
This may help shed some light on why those who gave Obama this did it. (they apparently don't know Obama.)
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Symbolism of Hanuman

The monkey symbolism of Lord Hanuman is related to the notion that a human being's mind is ever active and never restful, hence the depiction of a human being with the face of a monkey. Furthermore, Lord Hanuman symbolically stands for pure devotion, complete surrender and absence of ego or the lower self. As the son of Vayu, symbolically he also stands for the subtle body consisting of the breath body, the mental body and the intelligence body. Here we explain Hanuman as the mental body in a human being.

The mind, being ever fickle, jumps from place to place, obtaining everything in its path and engaging in numerous activities that brings no peace to the surroundings. The mind can travel to any place and fly anywhere and cross to other parts of the world such is the power of the mind.

The mind can also expand or contract, and if it remains under the control of animal passions and sensory activities, it will become instable and devious. Hence, the mind of Hanuman is always under this fluctuation.

However, once surrendering occurs to the inner self and the mind becomes devoted unconditionally, the mind can obtain miraculous powers and perform stupendous feats like that of Lord Hanuman. When one's mind reaches this state in working for the divine, it helps the lower self (Sita) and Soul (Rama) to come together and become united.

19 posted on 06/25/2008 11:26:22 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: livius

The more and more that comes out about Obama, the more creeped out I become. The man carries a monkey god charm and gets presented with a golden idol for goodness sake ... too weird. He is to purported to have the ability to lower sea levels and fix people’s souls as well.


20 posted on 06/25/2008 11:43:24 AM PDT by chickpundit
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To: Sopater
Another reason the head choppers will go after Obama. All he needs now is a pork chop stuck in his pie hole at a some function. The Detroit Taliban will have trouble pulling the lever for him.

We need to get a reaction from Farrakhan and his bow ties.

21 posted on 06/25/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Sopater
lucky nickel

Well, I've heard of worshiping the almighty dollar, but never a nickel ; )

22 posted on 06/25/2008 12:07:45 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: chickpundit
here is a gift for Obama, just like the one the Brady Bunch got!


24 posted on 06/25/2008 12:16:05 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: chickpundit; Centurion2000

If somebody had written a novel with a character like Obama and a plot describing his attempt to take over the United States, I would never have believed it - until now. And it’s not a novel, unfortunately.


25 posted on 06/25/2008 12:17:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Sopater; wendelmyer; Faith; 444Flyer; F15Eagle; AmericanInTokyo; Blogger
One wonders...

Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman Hanuman (Sanskrit: हनुमत् Hanumat; nominative singular हनुमान् Hanumān), known also as 'Anjaneya' (son of Anjana), is one of the most popular Gods in Hinduism and one of the most important personalities in the Indian epic, the Ramayana. His most famous feat, as described in the Hindu epic scripture the Ramayana, was leading a monkey army to fight the demon King Ravana and rescue a kidnapped princess.
26 posted on 06/25/2008 12:18:58 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

sounds like a movie: “damn you dirty apes!”


27 posted on 06/25/2008 12:26:15 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Sopater
Obama as he is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.

That is rich, Obama carries a Monkey God charm around with him, too funny.

An Indian Hindu priest performs prayers in front of a statue of the Hindu god Hanuman.

28 posted on 06/25/2008 12:34:29 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Sopater
McCain's pocket idol: Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

29 posted on 06/25/2008 12:35:53 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hanuman?

30 posted on 06/25/2008 12:39:03 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Sopater
"Obama has deep faith in Lord Hanuman"

Wait for it....

"This is not the Lord Hanuman I knew."

31 posted on 06/25/2008 12:44:53 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: lonestar
That looks like a woman with a cow’s tail.

That would be a huldra.

Norwegian forest elf, usually a very pretty lady, except for the tail . . .

A tactful young man was dancing with a (disguised) huldra at a party one time and noticed that her tail was showing. He whispered quietly to her, "Your garter has come untied, lady." She was grateful for his discretion and gave him good luck all his days.

32 posted on 06/25/2008 12:48:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Hanuman is a winged monkey”

Ah, a supporter of Mrs. Obama.


33 posted on 06/25/2008 1:00:45 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: weegee

“Hello...Hanuman.”

ROLFL!


34 posted on 06/25/2008 1:17:45 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: Sopater
will pass it on to the Obama

"The Obama". I like the way that plays. Let's use it.

The Obama...

35 posted on 06/25/2008 1:25:50 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Blogger

How very Pagan of him.

1 John 5:21

“Dear, children, keep yourselves from idols.”

(Mentor Ole “Rev.” Wright must have skipped over that part of scripture.)


36 posted on 06/25/2008 1:32:24 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: Sopater

I do not know if Obama is a Lord Hanuman devotee and would not assume the article is right on that matter. But unless it is accepted only as a cultural artificat Obama should reject receiving this token.


37 posted on 06/25/2008 1:36:21 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Sopater
FRNN Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Today marked the first time that a Hindu deity was thrown under the bus by the Barack Obama campaign, joining the ever-growing crowd there clinging to the greasy undercarriage, including Obama's pastor, his own Grandmother, Louis Farrakhan, Hamas, Father Pfleger, billions of Muslims, radical black liberationists and the majority of the white race. It is widely rumored that Obama will soon need to abandon the heavily-laden bus in favor of a hybrid Prius, in which he will not allow anyone else to ride or to speak until November.

38 posted on 06/25/2008 1:44:53 PM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: SlowBoat407
"The Obama". I like the way that plays. Let's use it.

The Obama...

More like ... The Obamanation.

And the elderly hulk coming to fight.


39 posted on 06/25/2008 2:10:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: SlowBoat407
"The Obama". I like the way that plays. Let's use it.

The Obama...

More like ... The Obamanation.

And the elderly hulk coming to fight.


40 posted on 06/25/2008 2:10:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Sopater

Well, THAT throws a monkey wrench in Obambi’s pursuit of the Christian vote.


41 posted on 06/25/2008 2:10:48 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Perdogg
Well at least it wasn't this:


42 posted on 06/25/2008 2:15:54 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Personal Methane Reclamation: Break wind for energy independence!)
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To: Sopater
Hanuman isn't all that different from Superman other than the fact that he can't quite fly as far.

Christians are not supposed to accept idols or to eat food sacrified to idols lest the pagans come to believe that Christians think such beliefs and behavior are OK.

Otherwise this stuff won't hurt you. Presumably Obama already has sufficient numbers of devotees that he has someone on his staff who knows where to put these things.

Now, are Hindus "idol worshippers"? Or, do they use statues to represent "saints" (people who lived praiseworthy lives while manifest on Earth in a particular persona), and as memnonics to "inform and counsel" millions of people who have the misfortune of living in an illiterate society?

Buddha asked all these questions and more.

Sure took care of the statue problem for the Buddhists didn't it?!

43 posted on 06/25/2008 2:30:44 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: weegee
We have only the claim of a Hindu that Obama is worshipping a monkey shaped keychain fob.

Wouldn't put money on that. Those guys think everybody operates in the same sort of symbolic logic that they do when it comes to religion.

Obama's momma didn't raise him to grow up to be no Hindu, of that I'm sure!

44 posted on 06/25/2008 2:34:04 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: The Lumster
No, a true Christian would direct his staff assistant to simply take such items and stick them in the "people sent me this stuff" place.

The problem here is that he might end up as President, and the giver might end up as Prime Minister (remember the guy who drank his urine?).

There's absolutely no need to pick a fight over such a common happenstance.

45 posted on 06/25/2008 2:36:10 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: dandelion; taraytarah
As a Christian, such a gift should be accepted as a symbol of the hopes and aspirations of the giver, and should be put in a public place in honor of the *givers*, not a personal place in honor of the *gift*. Honoring the giver - not the gift - takes it out of the realm of idolatry and puts it in the realm of gratitude.

could you please tell me which scripture in God's Word you got that from ?

46 posted on 06/25/2008 2:37:05 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s not a monkey god. It’s a pussy cat god.


47 posted on 06/25/2008 2:38:58 PM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: mnehrling
That stuff was all made up many centuries after Hanuman had become a staple favorite of the common people throughout most of Asia.

Don't believe it. Monkeys are fun. Monkeys come into the village and steal stuff. Monkeys throw feces at each other and at people.

48 posted on 06/25/2008 2:39:01 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Sopater

This is in the religion forum? Does that mean I have to be Hindi to post on this thread?


49 posted on 06/25/2008 2:44:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Centurion2000

This election is a lot like a Marvel Comic isn’t it? Is Hildebeast really finished or will she come back in a later chapter?


50 posted on 06/25/2008 3:02:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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