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Islam Factor Forum ^ | May 2008 | BrJimC

Posted on 07/05/2008 2:43:29 PM PDT by Imanhamdani

Islam Factor is a bold experiment in Muslim freedom of expression, freedom of speech and cooperation with people from all walks of life. Some who follow, agree with or are amicable to Islam and some who are opposed. Whether you agree with or follow Islam or not, whether you oppose Islam or not, no matter the nation, race, religion or creed we are from, we all have one thing in common. We all are human-beings with the same basic needs, hopes and emotions.

Our forum hopes to promote an almost unheard of tolerance (that eludes many Muslim groups) that transcends all of our differences while discussing the critical issues that divide us as human-beings. Issues involving Islam on all levels (inside and outside of the Islamic community) will be discussed on our forum openly. This forum will be a mode communication that allows for dissention and encourages methods to overcome the critical problems that concern us all. On the issue of Jihad now.

Jihad, the so called Holy War, is waged to spread the Islamic Religion

The use of the word Jihad in reference to a holy war is an entirely incorrect usage. Since the aggression of earlier Christians in the 11th century the term Holy War has been used in the Christian sense. A Holy War is waged without rational justification but by the warped vision of a religious leader to conquer the Promised Land (i.e. in the Crusader's mind it was Palestine which was promised to the descendants of Prophet Abraham (a.s.)) and spread their religion. In the 4th century the standards for such wars was set by the Papacy (i.e. the Pope). The first criteria for a holy war was that it was to be violent. Killing was not seen as evil and was to be done deliberately or not. The second criteria for a holy war was the establishment of the Christian Republic. Christ was seen as a political figure who had political ambitions set for his people, i.e. the Christians. The Christian Republic was to be ruled by Christ whose representatives on earth were the Pope, bishops, emperors and kings. The Muslims in Palestine were seen as tyrants who occupied Christian territory which was sanctified by the presence of Christ. Pagans in the Balkans were seen as a threat to Christendom, as well as, Muslims in Spain. The Jews were viewed as a people rejected by God for murdering their Messiah.

Prior to the first millennia, the predominant thought in the Church was that Jesus (a.s.) second coming would come, along with the end of the world, which would occur at the turn of the first millennia. The calendar years were calculated according to the Roman calendar. One Christian writer wrote, "On new year's eve, 1000, a crowd gathered at Rome, awaiting the end of the world. Midnight came, nothing happened and the pope, Sylvester II, blessed the crowd and sent them home."1 Not long afterwards came the crusaders.

At the request of various popes, beginning with Pope Urban II, between 1095-1270 A.D., military expeditions against the Pagans, Jews and Muslims were carried out from Europe. Christ was seen to have authorized the Crusades himself and the Pope, who exorcised his authority, was his representative on earth. Many Christians in Palestine, and elsewhere refused to join in on the wars even though the Crusades were seen as an international event. The crusaders believed that if they began to conquer Palestine then Jesus (a.s.) would return, fulfill the promises of the Bible and finish establishing the Kingdom of God on earth. This meant that they must launch a Crusade to liberate Palestine from Muslim rule and rid the land of the Jews who, in their opinion murdered Jesus (a.s.) and forfeited their right to God's promises. The European Christians united under the belief that the conquest of Palestine would usher in the second coming of Jesus (a.s.), and the kingdom of God on earth (i.e. the Christian Republic), swept in massive force across Europe and Asia murdering and burning Jews in their synagogues and attacking Muslim and Pagan settlements. Those Jews who did not die and were found out were forced by the sword to abandon Judaism and confess Christianity. Those who did not were murdered on site! Those Jews who did were sometimes exiled but most were murdered by the sword anyhow. Many Jews did confess but in secret reneged on it and sought forgiveness from God or even committed suicide out of the guilt of not forgoing the persecution. A popular remembrance of these events among Jewish circles is the playing of the Kol Nidre (pronounced kole nidray), a song created and played Jews to plead God's forgiveness and renounce the forced Christian vows. The Crusades were the Holy Wars! A holy war waged by religious zealots with a false man inspired vision base on a man made Bible. A Holy War is aggressive, irrational and waged against a people without cause. There is no doubt that this is the reason why the United States adopted the concept of the separation of Church and State. Islam does not condone, nor recognize forced conversions. According to what God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), "If somebody does not accept Islam truly but does so by compulsion or fear of being killed, then that man is not a believer." (Bukhari)2

The word Jihad literally means, to struggle against. Jihad does not initiate aggression, nor does Jihad have to be used in cases of war. There are three ways in which Jihad can be described. First, Jihad is the literal struggle (non-violent) against the sinful temptations of the heart. One can Jihad against him or herself. If one is tempted to steal and takes the appropriate measures to insure that the thought is stricken from his or her mind, through prayer or whatever it takes, then he or she has waged Jihad against his or her heart. Jihad is a character building mechanism and is the constant struggle against sin in our hearts. Second, Jihad is a struggle (non-violent) against the philosophies of society at large, such as atheism or humanism. Jihad of this type is through discourse. Muslims will engage in debates about facts and opinions to insure that people do not abandon the belief that God exists, is active in our lives, relevant in our society and must be worshipped. This type of Jihad spreads our religion, is non-violent and non-aggressive discourse. The third type of Jihad is what the Christian and christianized west attempts confused with their own transgressions and wrongfully propagates spreading falsehood. Jihad is, also, the defense of our families from invading armies and tyrants! As seen in many parts of the world, every side has an aggressor and a defender. Jihad (violent defensive struggle) is a defensive action and not aggressive! It is a nation defending itself from an aggressor. It is the right of every person on earth, Muslim and not, to defend their family from impending destruction and aggression. Qur'an 2:190-193 sets the terms about Jihad of this type:

Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; But if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more persecution and the religion becomes Allah's. But if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

This type of Jihad (defensive) is not a holy war, which is aggressive in nature. If violence is perpetrated against the Islamic community then God has authorized the means by which they can defend themselves and their families. God has set the guidelines and limits by which such a defensive action may take place. There is no support in the Qur'an or Sunnah for Jihad to be used in any other manner than defense. Islam condemns non-provoked attacks and anyone who claims to be Muslim who does such a thing is not following Islam! During the Crusades Christians waged a Holy War against the Jews and Muslims. Muslims went to Jihad against them to defend their way of life!

Exerpt from Western Misconceptions: The Facts About Islam by BrJimC 2000

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1 posted on 07/05/2008 2:43:31 PM PDT by Imanhamdani
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To: Imanhamdani

WELCOME ABOARD!


2 posted on 07/05/2008 2:47:31 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Really?


3 posted on 07/05/2008 3:08:11 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: PGalt
Maybe someone should tell the allah akbar freaks that jihad has nothing to do with murdering infidels. I don't think people would see jihad as an islamic holy war if there weren't so many moslums willing to blow themselves up in the service of jihad.
4 posted on 07/05/2008 3:16:10 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: Imanhamdani
The use of the word Jihad in reference to a holy war is an entirely incorrect usage.

In keeping with the muslim-approved principle that it's okay to LIE to nonbelievers if it advances the cause of islam, this fellow is trying to make islam more acceptable to western societies, never mind the truth!

5 posted on 07/05/2008 3:46:47 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Imanhamdani
Welcome to Free Republic's Religion Forum!

Here are your first questions. The source documents for the Koran were written in what language? Have you seen them? Where are they kept? Who is the chief Imam of Islam?

6 posted on 07/05/2008 4:21:19 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Ken522

that is funny ken. dont make me laugh too much. whatever you’re reading isnt doing you justice ;)


7 posted on 07/05/2008 4:59:16 PM PDT by Imanhamdani (Islam Factor)
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To: PGalt

thank you :)


8 posted on 07/05/2008 4:59:17 PM PDT by Imanhamdani (Islam Factor)
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To: Imanhamdani

Interesting, Western European centered view of history, Imam. Is there any reason why you left out the part about the Mohammedan policy of conversion or the sword in the Eastern Roman Empire in the Balkans, ME and North Africa? Imam, you know full well that the Mohammedan armies were killing Eastern Christians long before any Pope of Rome called for a crusade.

“Islam does not condone, nor recognize forced conversions.”

Did someone forget to tell the Turks?


9 posted on 07/05/2008 5:02:08 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Imanhamdani

During the Crusades Christians waged a Holy War against the Jews and Muslims. Muslims went to Jihad against them to defend their way of life!
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Nope, you are wrong..Mr History Revisionist..

From the 7th Century on, the Moslems had attacked and invaded half of Europe, converting Christians to Islam in the name of allah and Mohammad, at the point of the sword also called JIHAD, or Holy War...and unprovoked..

Roland beat them back from conquering France..

The Crusades were only against the Moslems because the Moslems had attacked Jerusalem and only allowed Islam to be worshipped..

For 200 uears the Christian kings of Europe lead Christian armies against the Islamic hordes to rescue the Christians and to take beck Jerusalem...

Eventually the Islamic barbarians were pushed out of Spain and other western countries in the 15th Century..

Since that time, the Islamics have continued to wage Jihad, or Holy War against Christians and Jews..

9/11 was JIHAD, Holy War against the United Staes of America..the Islamics had NOT been attacked first..


10 posted on 07/05/2008 5:10:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Imanhamdani
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.

By the way, the crusades ended over 800 years ago. I guess the Islamists didn't get the word.


List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
7/5/2008 Thailand Yala 4 4 Muslim gunmen open up on a crowd eating breakfast at a tea shop, killing four.
7/4/2008 Thailand Yala 1 1 Islamists behead a Buddhist and then set his body on fire. The man's son is seriously injured as well.
7/4/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A retired schoolteacher is gunned down by Islamic militants.
7/4/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslam radicals shoot a 42-year-old man to death.
7/4/2008 India Kupwara 5 0 Five Indian army personnel are massacred in a Mujahideen ambush.
7/4/2008 Afghanistan Maidan-Wardak 2 5 Two Afghan security personnel are taken out in a Taliban bombing.
7/3/2008 Iraq Baghdad 4 8 Four Iraqis are blown apart by an Islamist bomb.
7/3/2008 Somalia Hiiran 10 0 Ten civilians are killed in an ambush by Islamic militia.
7/3/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 8 3 Eight local police are killed in a brutal ambush by Sunni militants.
7/3/2008 Pakistan Khyber 5 4 Five people are killed when rival Islamist groups clash.
7/3/2008 Iraq Samarra 14 0 Fourteen victims of Sunni terrorists are discovered in a mass grave.
7/3/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A school principal is shot to death by Muslim radicals.
7/2/2008 Afghanistan Logar 5 0 The Taliban murder five local soldiers with a roadside blast.
7/2/2008 Afghanistan Nimroz 5 2 Five people are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
7/2/2008 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 A streetsweeper is among three people killed in a Mujahideen roadside bombing.
7/2/2008 Israel Jerusalem 3 57 Two teachers, including a mother, are among three people are killed when a Palestinian goes on a violent rampage with a bulldozer.
7/2/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamic gunmen murder a woman shortly after she drops her daughter off at school.
7/1/2008 Pakistan Swat 5 3 An elderly woman is among five people shot to death by Islamists in four separate attacks.
7/1/2008 Iraq Mandali 4 16 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends four Iraqis to Allah.
7/1/2008 Philippines Aleosan 1 0 A Christian man is shot to death after refusing to give up his property to Moro Islamic Front raiders.
7/1/2008 Iraq Mosul 2 32 Two Jihad bombs leave two dead and about forty wounded.
7/1/2008 Somalia Mataban 53 40 Fifty-three people are killed in a series of ambushes by Islamic militants.
7/1/2008 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 2 7 Taliban bombers kill two local policemen.
7/1/2008 Iraq Buhriz 3 1 Three members of the same family are murdered by Mujahideen bombers.
6/30/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 46-year-old man is shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
6/30/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 Muslim radicals kidnap and kill a humanitarian aid worker.
6/29/2008 Iraq Duluiya 7 3 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders seven Iraqis.
6/29/2008 Afghanistan Farah 4 5 Religious extremists attack a local police post, killing four officers.
6/29/2008 Pakistan Swat 1 0 A civilian is beheaded by Sunni radicals.
6/29/2008 Iraq Udhaim 3 0 Mujahid kill two women and a child with a mortar attack on their home.
6/29/2008 Pakistan Swat 6 5 Islamic militants kill six people in at least two separate bombings.
6/28/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 2 25 Shia terrorists detonate a bomb in an apartment building, killing two residents.
6/28/2008 Afghanistan Faryab 8 0 Eight local cops are ambushed and killed by Talibanis.
6/28/2008 Iraq Samarrah 50 0 A mass grave is discovered containing women and children among fifty people rounded up by Sunni militants and executed.
6/28/2008 Pakistan Khyber 8 5 A sectarian disagreement leaves eight dead.
6/28/2008 Iraq Samarrah 7 0 Seven dead torture victims, including a woman, are found in an al-Qaeda hideout.
6/27/2008 Chechnya Vedeno 4 0 Four police are ambushed and killed by Jihad fighters.
6/27/2008 Pakistan Damadola 2 0 A mob screaming "Allah Akbar" slits the throats of two Afghans, then beheads them.
6/27/2008 Iraq Khanaqin 1 2 Islamic militants kill a shepherd with a well-placed bomb.
6/27/2008 Iraq Shurqat 2 3 al-Qaeda takes out two Iraqis with a roadside blast.
6/27/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A 36-year-old civilian is shot to death by Mujahid after dropping his children off at school.
6/27/2008 Algeria Jijel 6 14 Six security personnel are taken out by al-Qaeda gunmen.
6/27/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 64-year-old man is murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/26/2008 Pakistan Barikot 7 0 Islamists burn down a girls school and kill a family of seven.
6/26/2008 Iraq Karma 20 24 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders twenty innocents.
6/26/2008 Iraq Mosul 17 62 Jihadis succussfully take out seventeen Iraqis with a well-placed car bomb.
6/25/2008 Pakistan Jandola 28 0 Twenty-eight members of a local peace council are murdered by the Taliban.
6/25/2008 Somalia Deynile 9 0 Nine local police are ambushed and killed by Islamic militia.
6/25/2008 Iraq Baghdad 5 25 Two Jihad bombings leave five Iraqis dead.
6/24/2008 Afghanistan Herat 1 0 A policewoman is murdered by fundamentalists as she is walking home from work.
6/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 11 11 Eleven people are killed when Islamic militants set off a bomb at a government building.
6/24/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 1 0 Another person is killed in a sectarian clash.
6/24/2008 Somalia Kismayo 1 2 A local official is assassinated by suspected Islamists.
6/24/2008 Iraq Mosul 2 75 A baby is among two people killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
6/23/2008 Pakistan Kurram 11 0 Eleven kidnapped Shias are brutally beheaded by Sunni radicals.
6/23/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 2 0 Two more people are killed in sectarian violence.
6/23/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 0 Taliban militants kill three local police in a brutal ambush.
6/23/2008 Dagestan Buinaksk 1 0 A police chief succumbs after being sprayed with automatic weapons fire.
6/23/2008 Pakistan Jandola 16 10 Islamic militants attack pro-government tribesmen, killing at least sixteen.
6/23/2008 Iraq Mosul 4 2 A woman and a university student are among four murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/23/2008 Afghanistan Shindand 5 19 A suicide car bomber takes out five Afghan civilians.
6/22/2008 Iraq Khalis 7 12 Jihadis murder seven Iraqis in a mortar attack on a residential neighborhood.
6/22/2008 Iraq Kirkuk 3 2 Two women are among three killed in a Mujahideen bombing.
6/22/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 9 35 Nine people are killed in sectarian clashes within the Religion of Peace.
6/22/2008 Iraq Baqubah 17 42 A female suicide bomber massacres seventeen Iraqis.
6/22/2008 Somalia Dharkenley 3 4 Three local soldiers are killed in an Islamic militia bombing.
6/22/2008 India Srinagar 1 0 Lashkar-e-Taiba members ambush and kill an Indian soldier.
6/21/2008 Afghanistan Kunar 1 2 Extremists send a rocket into a hospital, killing at least one person.
6/21/2008 Iraq Baquba 2 0 Two brothers are kidnapped and killed.
6/21/2008 Afghanistan Khost 4 8 A woman and three children are taken out by a Mujahid rocket attack.
6/21/2008 Pakistan Khyber 29 50 Fueding religious sects clash, leaving about thirty people dead.
6/21/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 4 0 Four railway workers are gunned down in cold blood by radical Muslims.
6/20/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 7 10 Children are among the casualties when a sucide bomber detonates in a crowded market.
6/20/2008 Afghanistan Zabul 2 3 Two local soldiers are killed in a bomb attack by religious extremists.
6/20/2008 France Paris 0 1 A 17-year-old Hassidic Jew is beaten into a coma by Muslim immigrants.
6/20/2008 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A Jihad car bombing kills eight Iraqis.
6/20/2008 Thailand Yala 1 4 Islamic gunmen open up on a truck, killing an occupant.
6/20/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 13 30 At least two children are among thirteen civilians killed in attacks by Islamic militia.
6/20/2008 Israel Neveh Tzuf 0 2 Masked Palestinians shoot two Israelis in a brutal drive-by attack.
6/19/2008 Thailand Yala 2 0 A 3-year-old boy and his father are gunned down by the Religion of Peace.
6/19/2008 Pakistan Kurram 4 0 Muslim radicals ambush a food relief convoy, killing the driver and three others, and then setting fire to the goods.
6/19/2008 Pakistan Kurram 7 10 Clashes between Sunni and Shia leave at least seven dead.
6/19/2008 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 A man is kidnapped and tortured to death by Mujahid.
6/19/2008 Pakistan Kharian 1 0 A man shoots his sister-in-law to death on suspicion of 'bad character.'
6/19/2008 Pakistan Hajira 4 3 Four local soldiers are killed by Islamic terrorists.
6/18/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 4 3 Four local police are killed by a roadside bomb detonated by Islamists.
6/18/2008 Thailand Pattani 2 5 Two members of a security patrol die from shrapnel injuries following a roadside blast set off by Mujahideen.
6/18/2008 Afghanistan Khost 4 3 Four local cops are killed in a Taliban bombing.
6/17/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 3 17 Three civilians are killed when Islamic militia open fire on government troops.
6/17/2008 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Religious extremists gun down a journalist who had presented segments on Islam and culture.
6/17/2008 Pakistan Hangu 4 0 Four members of a Shia family are murdered in their car by Sunni gunmen.
6/17/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 45-year-old widow and mother of five is chased down and shot by Holy Warriors.
6/17/2008 Iraq al-Saba Abkar 4 2 A suicide bicycle bomber pedals to paradise, taking four Iraqis with him.
6/17/2008 Iraq Baghdad 63 78 Shiite radicals bomb an open-air market, slaughtering over sixty shoppers and vendors.
6/17/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 3 2 Islamic militants fire a mortar into a home, killing three civilians.
6/16/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 4 5 Four Shiites praying at a mosque are blown to bits by radical Sunnis.
6/16/2008 Pakistan Torchapar 1 0 Local Islamists kidnap and murder a village elder.
6/16/2008 Lebanon Bekaa 3 4 Three people are killed in a sectarian clash.
6/16/2008 Chechnya Grozny 3 5 Three border guards are murdered in a Jihad ambush on their vehicle.
6/16/2008 Iraq Baghdad 4 31 A double suicide bombing is one of two attacks that leaves four civilians dead.
6/15/2008 Pakistan FATA 5 7 Islamic militants kill five people in two landmine attacks.
6/15/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 1 1 The Taliban kill a local police chief with a remote-controlled bomb.
6/15/2008 Iraq Mosul 2 1 A college professor is among two people shot to death by Freedom Fighters.
6/15/2008 Iraq Baghdad 3 1 Three members of a family, including two women, are murdered by Sunni militants in a home invasion.
6/15/2008 Iraq Baghdad 0 34 A female suicide bomber targets soccer fans celebrating a victory.
6/15/2008 Afghanistan Khost 1 0 A 12-year-old boy is killed by Taliban bombers as he is walking to school.
6/14/2008 Pakistan Sanghar 1 16 Sunni extremists are thought responsible for a bomb at a tea shop that kills a young boy.
6/14/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 4 0 Two women are among four civilians abducted and murdered by suspected Islamic militia.
6/14/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 4 1 Religious extremists kill four US Marines training local security forces.
6/14/2008 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two brothers are shot to death outside their home by Holy Warriors.
6/14/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 7 Jihadis kill two people with a bomb on a minibus.
6/13/2008 India Watsar 5 0 Five local soldiers are ambushed and killed by Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorists.
6/13/2008 Chechnya Benoi-Vedeno 3 0 Mujahideen kill three locals in a sustained attack on their village.
6/13/2008 Dagestan Makhchkala 1 0 A bomb planted by suspected Islamists kills a jogger.
6/13/2008 Iraq Tuz Khormato 3 0 A father and son are among three people shot to death by Mujahideen.
6/13/2008 Ingushetia Naran 4 4 Islamic fundamentalists detonate a bomb at a building storing alcohol, killing at least four innocents.
6/13/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 15 0 At least fifteen local prison guards are killed when Taliban militants storm the facility with two suicide bombers.
6/12/2008 Gaza Beit Lahiya 4 0 Four civilians, including a 4-month-old baby, are among seven killed in a Hamas explosion.
6/12/2008 Somalia Leego 1 0 A UN food convoy driver is shot by suspected Islamic milita gunmen.
6/12/2008 Bangladesh West Bengal 0 15 Fifteen Hindu pilgrims, including women and children, are burned by Molotov cocktails thrown by a Muslim mob.
6/12/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 5 5 A child is among five civilians murdered by the Mujahideen in a mortar attack.
6/12/2008 Pakistan Dattakhel 5 0 Five local family members are pulled out of a house and mudered by Islamic fundamentalists.
6/12/2008 UK Forest Gate 0 1 A Hindu man is set on fire for dating a Muslim girl.
6/11/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A prostitute is murdered by religious fundamentalists.
6/11/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 The head of a humanitarian agency and his driver are shot to death by Muslim militia.
6/11/2008 Iraq Fallujah 5 0 Five Iraqis are kidnapped and tortured to death by Sunni terrorists.
6/11/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A civilian is shot to death by Muslim radicals.
6/11/2008 Iraq Baghdad 5 10 Jihads successfully kill five people with a bombing attack on a minibus.
6/11/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 2 Islamist gunmen kill a father in an attack that leaves his two daughters injured as well.
6/10/2008 Somalia Baidoa 2 0 A taxi driver and another civilian are shot to death by Islamists.
6/10/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A government official is murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/10/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 6 2 Islamic hardliners kill six Somalis in a savage ambush.
6/10/2008 India Kangan 1 0 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen abduct a 42-year-old civilian from his home and then murder him in captivity.
6/10/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Mujahideen shoot and kill two young men riding a motorcycle.
6/9/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 Thai Islamists ambush a local police chief, then set his body on fire in front of his wife.
6/9/2008 Algeria Bouira 20 0 Islamic fundamentalists bomb a bus stop, killing twenty ordinary people.
6/9/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 5 0 The Taliban murder five local police in two shootings.
6/9/2008 Iraq Baghdad 4 12 Militant Sunnis detonate a bomb along a city street, killing four passers-by.
6/9/2008 Pakistan Kurram 1 6 al-Qaeda-backed militants kill a civilian in his hom with a mortar attack.
6/8/2008 Algeria Lakhdaria 13 8 Fundamentalists stage a double bomb attack, killing those who rushed to help victims of the first blast.
6/8/2008 Pakistan Matani 4 1 Four police are ambushed and killed by Jihadis while sitting in their van.
6/8/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 8 0 Eight Afghan are murdered in a Mujahideen ambush.
6/8/2008 Iraq Baghdad 8 38 Jihadis take out eight innocents in two bombing attacks.
6/8/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 20 44 Islamists ambush a military convoy in a civilian district, leaving some twenty people dead.
6/8/2008 Afghanistan Khost 4 0 Four Afghans are shot to death at point-blank range by Talibanis while sitting in their car.
6/8/2008 Somalia Baidoa 1 0 A government official is assassinated by religious radicals.
6/8/2008 Ingushetia Nazran 1 0 A local cop is gunned down by suspected Islamists.
6/8/2008 Pakistan Chitral 4 0 Four children are killed in an explosion triggered by Holy Warriors.
6/8/2008 Iraq Aziziya 6 0 Six shepherds are brutally murdered by Mujahideen.
6/8/2008 Iraq Khanaqin 5 0 Five people at a market are gunned down by Sunni militants.
6/7/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 1 0 Holy warriors kidnap and murder a journalist.
6/7/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists gun down a 23-year-old civilian.
6/7/2008 Iraq Baghdad 4 18 Jihadis take out four Iraqis with a roadside bomb blast.
6/7/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 7 A suicide bomber murders two innocents.
6/7/2008 Iraq Wihda 8 0 Eight victims of suspected al-Qaeda are found in a mass grave, tortured and executed.
6/7/2008 Iraq Kanaan 1 3 A small child is killed by Sunni radicals in a roadside attack.
6/7/2008 Somalia Kismayo 1 0 A journalist is shot to death by Muslim militants.
6/6/2008 Afghanistan Nimroz 1 5 A suicide bomber targets Indian engineers working on a road, killing one of them.
6/6/2008 Somalia Huriwa 5 5 Five civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic militia.
6/6/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A middle-aged man is shot to death by Muslim radicals while returning from work.
6/6/2008 Iraq Ramadi 4 6 A female suicide bomber is used in one of two attacks that leave four dead.
6/6/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A Budhhist woman is murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/6/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 5 7 Five people are killed in a bombing by suspected Islamists.
6/6/2008 Thailand Songkhla 2 0 Two construction workers are murdered by Muslim militants.
6/5/2008 Algeria Bordj El Kiffan 6 4 Two al-Qaeda suicide bombers leave six Algerians dead at a caf� and military post.
6/5/2008 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A Pakistani soldier is kidnapped and tortured to death by Islamic fundamentalists.
6/5/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 Sunni extremists murder two local police with a roadside bomb.
6/5/2008 Israel Nir-Oz 1 3 A father of three is murdered by Palestinians firing rockets into an Israeli residential area.
6/4/2008 Pakistan Kohat 3 3 Three people are killed in a wave of bombings against video stores by Islamic fundamentalists.
6/4/2008 Afghanistan Ghanzi 2 0 Two policemen are killed in a bombing by religious extremists.
6/4/2008 Aghanistan Qarabagh 2 3 The Taliban attack a convoy of fuel tankers, killing two guards.
6/4/2008 Iraq Fallujah 8 12 Freedom Fighters murder eight Iraqis in two attacks.
6/4/2008 Afghanistan Khost 1 19 A civilian is killed by a suicide bomber.
6/4/2008 Algeria Bordj El Kiffan 2 0 Two civilians are taken out by a blast from a bomb planted by Islamic fundamentalists.
6/4/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Mujahideen open fire at the half-time of a soccer match, killing the referee and a player.
6/4/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 30-year-old man is killed by Muslim gunmen while out with friends.
6/4/2008 Iraq Baghdad 25 86 Twenty-five Iraqis are killed in two explosions, one caused by a truck carrying weapons for Shia militia in a residential area.
6/3/2008 Thailand Yala 1 1 Muslim gunmen fire into a home, killing a 15-year-old boy and injuring his 4-year-old sister.
6/3/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 1 23 A suicide bomber kills a young child and injures two dozen others.
6/3/2008 Somalia Kismayo 1 1 Islamic militia ambush a government official, killing one of his guards.
6/3/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 3 0 A teenager is among three civilians killed in separate attacks by Muslim militants.
6/3/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 45-year-old Buddhist is shot to death by Islamic radicals.
6/3/2008 Indonesia Jakarta 0 12 Radical Muslims with machetes attack a group of Christians at a religious tolerance rally, shouting 'Repent or die!'
6/3/2008 Iraq al-Katoun 1 0 A 5-year-old boy is kidnapped and hung by sectarian Jihadis.
6/3/2008 Pakistan Kurram 4 7 Two children, ages 11 and 9, are among four killed in a landmine attack by religious extremists.
6/3/2008 Thailand Yala 1 4 Islamic bombers kill a woman in an attack on a commercial district.
6/3/2008 Iraq Baquba 1 0 An 11-year-old boy is shot to death by Freedom Fighters.
6/2/2008 Iraq Mosul 11 45 A suicide bomber takes out eleven Iraqis in a brutal attack.
6/2/2008 Pakistan Islamabad 8 17 Islamists bomb the Danish embassy, presumably over cartoons, killing eight people.
6/1/2008 Afghanistan Kabul 1 5 The Taliban kill a woman with a remote-controlled bomb.
6/1/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A Chinese carpet salesman is murdered by Muslim gunmen while sitting in a tea shop.
6/1/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 A Jihad car bomb kills two people.
6/1/2008 Iraq Jalula 2 4 Islamic terrorists murder a 3-year-old boy and his mother with a roadside bomb.
5/31/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 1 5 A young girl is killed during an ambush by Islamic militia.
5/31/2008 Iraq Hit 13 18 Thirteen Iraqis are blown apart by a religious extremist with a suicide vest.
5/31/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 40-year-old motorcycle dealer is murdered by Islamic gunmen while walking home.
5/31/2008 Lebanon al-Abedeh 1 0 The Islamic terrorist group, Fatah, kills a local soldier with a bomb blast.
5/31/2008 Afghanistan Zabul 2 0 Taliban gunmen shoot two Afghanis to death.
5/31/2008 Pakistan Mamad Ghat 1 0 An innocent bystander is killed when a Taliban bomb explodes prematurely.
5/30/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 2 A small child is killed by a bicycle bomb planted by Sunni extremists.
5/30/2008 Yemen Amran 10 26 Ten people are killed when a gunman opens fire inside a mosque in an apparent honor attack.
5/30/2008 Pakistan Kurram 2 0 Two people are murdered by suspected Islamists.
5/30/2008 Iraq Diyala 6 8 Three women and a child are among six Iraqis killed by Freedom Fighters.
5/29/2008 Ethiopia Nagele 3 5 An Islamic group claims responsibility for a bomb blast at a hotel that kills three people and leaves five others maimed.
5/29/2008 Iraq Sinjar 16 14 A suicide bomber targets young police recruits, sending at least sixteen to their death.
5/29/2008 Iraq Mosul 3 9 Three Iraqis are murdered by a suicide bomber.
5/29/2008 Philippines Zamboanga 3 17 Three civilians are murdered in a bomb attack by Islamic terrorists.
5/29/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 36-year-old man is shot to death by Muslim radicals while sitting in a teashop.
5/29/2008 Afghanistan Kabul 3 2 Two children and a truck driver are blown away by a Religion of Peace car bomb.
5/29/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 9 0 Taliban terrorists overrun a small town, killing nine people.
5/28/2008 Thailand Yala 3 11 Guests at a wedding party are among the casualties of a series of Jihad attacks that leave 3 people dead.
5/28/2008 Iraq Qara Tara 2 1 Jihadis bomb a family vehicle, killing a father and son.
5/27/2008 Afghanistan Farah 8 1 Eight civilians are blown to bits by a Taliban bombing attack against their minibus.
5/27/2008 Afghanistan Shorabak 9 3 Sunni extremists kill nine local police in two bombing attacks.
5/27/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 0 Three young children playing near by are murdered by a bomb planted under a bridge.
5/27/2008 Iraq Baiji 3 0 Three pipeline workers are shot to death by Sunni radicals.
5/27/2008 Iraq Tal Afar 4 41 A Religion of Peace car bomb takes out four Iraqis.
5/27/2008 Lebanon Aramoun 1 0 A local soldier is killed by Hezbollah supporters.
5/27/2008 Pakistan Khyber 8 13 Islamists clash with each other over religious dispute. Eight are killed.
5/27/2008 Afghanistan Logar 4 0 Religious extremists murder four local cops with a roadside bomb.
5/27/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 9 11 Nine civilians are killed when Islamic militia attack government troops along a city street.
5/26/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamic gunmen murder a man inside his home.
5/26/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 4 2 Four Shia are shot to death by radical Sunnis.
5/26/2008 Iraq Baghdad 3 12 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber on a bicycle pedals to paradise, taking three innocents with him.
5/26/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 13 8 Thirteen civilians, including children, are killed during an ambush by Islamic militia.
5/26/2008 Iraq Khan Bani Saad 2 0 A 6-year-old boy is shot to death along with his father by Islamic fanatics.
5/26/2008 India Kupwara 1 0 Islamic militants ambush and kill a local soldier.
5/26/2008 Iraq Tarmiyah 6 16 Six Iraqis are killed by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber.
5/26/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 0 0 A policeman and a Sunni civilian are killed in separate sectarian attacks.
5/25/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 54-year-old policeman is shot to death outside his home by militant Muslims.
5/25/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 A police chief and his driver are killed when Islamic militants bomb their car.
5/24/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 1 3 A civilian is killed by a Taliban roadside blast.
5/24/2008 Iraq Shohada 3 0 Three members of the same family are shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
5/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 Jihadis place a bomb on a minibus that kills three Iraqis.
5/24/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 5 1 A child is among five people killed in an ambush by Islamic militia.
5/23/2008 Pakistan Tall-Mirali 1 0 An Afghan civilian is murdered by Taliban sympathists.
5/23/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 4 6 Four African Union Peacekeepers are killed in a bombing attack by Islamic militia.
5/23/2008 Afghanistan Khost 5 6 Five Afghans, including a child, are taken out by a suicidal Sunni bomber.
5/23/2008 India Doda 1 0 A civilian is murdered by Mujahideen gunmen while collecting flour.
5/22/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 1 An Afghan is killed by a bicycle bomb set by religious extremists.
5/22/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 0 Three local guards are kidnapped and murdered by the Taliban with a bullet to the head.
5/22/2008 India Meerut 3 0 Three Hindu youth are brutally tortured and beheaded by a Muslim gang.
5/21/2008 Pakistan Swat 1 0 Islamic fundamentalists set fire to two girls' schools and gun down a local cop.
5/21/2008 Afghanistan Kunar 1 0 The Mujahideen slit the throat of a 32-year-old woman.
5/21/2008 Iraq Baghdad 11 3 Eleven civilians are killed in a Mujahideen attack.
5/21/2008 Iraq Rutba 4 3 A female suicide bomber murders four Iraqis.
5/21/2008 Pakistan Khyber 4 0 Islamic militants are thought responsible for the shooting attack that leaves four family members dead.
5/21/2008 Afghanistan Kunar 1 3 The Taliban kill a small child in a rocket attack.
5/21/2008 Afghanistan Paktika 1 4 A suicide bomber takes out a civilian.
5/20/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Muslim terrorists bomb a minibus, killing two occupants
5/20/2008 Iraq Mandali 1 9 A 5-year-old girl is murdered by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber.
5/20/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 0 An Afghan civilian is killed by a Taliban bomb.
5/20/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists gun down a 46-year-old father as he is gassing up his car.
5/20/2008 Philippines Patikul 1 4 Abu Sayyaf terrorists ambush a patrol, killing a local soldier.
5/20/2008 Iraq Balad Ruz 3 9 Jihadis fire mortars into a residential district, killing three people.
5/19/2008 Afghanistan Wardak 7 0 Seven civilians are killed in a Taliban landmine attack.
5/19/2008 Afghanistan Kabul 1 0 A driver for a humanitarian agency is shot to death by Islamic militants.
5/19/2008 Afghanistan Farah 1 0 Taliban extremists kidnap a local policeman and cut off his head.
5/19/2008 Iraq al-Baaj 11 0 Eleven young police recruits are brutally machine-gunned to death by Sunni terrorists.
5/19/2008 Iraq Suwayra 2 0 Two people are kidnapped and tortured. One is beheaded. The other shot.
5/18/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 4 8 A religious extremist detonates himself and ends the lives of four Afghan civilians.
5/18/2008 Afghanistan Zabul 1 0 A Taliban bombing leaves one civilian dead.
5/18/2008 Pakistan Mardan 14 22 Fourteen people are blown to bits by a suicide bomber outside a bakery.
5/18/2008 Pakistan Mamirogha 1 1 Islamists kill a civilian with a remote-controlled bomb.
5/18/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 13 Islamists set off two bombs, killing one person.
5/18/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 Jihadis set a car bomb that kills two Iraqis.
5/17/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 4 A child is killed when Sunni extremists attach a bomb to a bicycle.
5/17/2008 Afghanistan Paktia 3 0 The Taliban murders three Afghan civilians with a roadside bomb.
5/17/2008 Iraq Baqubah 3 15 A female suicide bomber blasts at least three Iraqis to Allah.
5/17/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 4 Two local cops are gunned down by Sunni extremists.
5/17/2008 Iraq Baghdad 7 19 Suspected Shia militia kill seven civilians, including a mother of three.
5/17/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 2 4 Taliban bombers kill two Afghan security personnel.
5/16/2008 Pakistan Khar 1 0 Tehreek-e-Taliban terrorists kidnap a Pakistani man and cut off his head.
5/16/2008 Iraq Fallujah 4 9 Sunni bomber take down four Iraqis with a bombing attack.
5/16/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 20 25 Mujahideen stage a rocket attack in a commercial district, killing at least twenty people.
5/15/2008 Pakistan Kohat Cantt 2 1 Local Taliban kill two Pakistani soldiers on routine patrol.
5/15/2008 Afghanistan Farah 16 28 Sunni extremists use a burqa-clad suicide bomber to blow sixteen people to bits at a marketplace.
5/15/2008 Pakistan Spinka Raghda 1 1 Taliban militants kill a local soldier with a bomb.
5/15/2008 Dagestan Gubden 2 1 Local Islamists gun down two cops.
5/15/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 3 Sunni extremists kill a local soldier with a remote-controlled bomb.
5/15/2008 Iraq Jalawla 2 4 Jihadis kill two Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
5/15/2008 Germany Hamburg 1 0 A 16-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her brother in an honor killing prompted by her 'Western lifestyle.'
5/15/2008 Iraq al-Anbar 11 0 al-Qaeda operatives invade the home of eleven Iraqi policemen, killing each one.
5/14/2008 Iraq Abu Minasir 25 48 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates at a funeral, killing over twenty innocent people.
5/14/2008 Pakistan Naurak 1 0 A man is kidnapped and beheaded by religious extremists.
5/14/2008 Iraq Yusufiya 1 7 al-Qaeda uses a teenage girl as a suicide bomber to kill another Iraqi.
5/14/2008 Pakistan Khar 1 0 Islamic militants shoot a village guard to death.
5/14/2008 Pakistan Peshawar 1 1 Islamic militants ambush and kill a local tribal elder.
5/14/2008 Israel Ashkelon 0 15 A baby is among fifteen injured when Palestinians send an Iranian-supplied rocket into an Israeli shopping mall.
5/14/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 An ice cream vendor is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
5/13/2008 Iraq Nassiriya 1 3 Jihadis manage to kill one woman and injure three others with a mortar round.
5/13/2008 Pakistan Bajur 1 1 Islamic militants attack a military post, killing a local soldier.
5/13/2008 Iraq Mosul 5 4 Five Iraqi secruity personnel are murdered by Sunni bombers.
5/13/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 2 6 Taliban militants kill two local cops in an ambush.
5/13/2008 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 0 A teacher is shot to death for saying that suicide bombings are un-Islamic.
5/13/2008 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Islamists ambush and kill a middle-aged married couple as they are traveling from their job at a rubber plantation.
5/13/2008 India Jaipur 63 216 A Hindu temple is among several targets of Islamic bombers. Over sixty innocents, including children, lose their lives in the carnage.
5/12/2008 Algeria Bouira 3 0 Islamic fundamentalists stop a patrol truck with a bomb, then machine-gun three soldiers to death.
5/12/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two locals are shot to death by militant Muslims.
5/12/2008 Israel Moshav Yesha 1 0 A 70-year-old woman is killed in her home by a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad in Gaza.
5/12/2008 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three men are murdered in separate attacks by Islamic gunmen.
5/11/2008 India Samba 6 5 A man and his wife are shot to death in their home by Islamic militants. A photographer and three other civilians are later killed by the same group.
5/11/2008 Algeria Medea 6 0 Six Algerian soldiers on patrol are ambushed and killed by the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat.
5/11/2008 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 Islamic gunmen open up on a local cop with automatic weapons at point blank range.
5/10/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 3 0 Three young Shia men are brutally shot to death by radical Sunnis while sitting in a shop.
5/10/2008 Lebanon Beirut 2 0 Two funeral mourners are gunned down by suspected Shia snipers.
5/10/2008 Iraq Basra 2 5 Two civilians are taken out in a roadside bombing.
5/9/2008 Israel Kfar Aza 1 1 An Israeli father of four is murdered in a Hamas mortar attack.
5/9/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 2 13 At least two civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic militia.
5/9/2008 Pakistan Kabbal 1 2 Islamic militants kill a local police officer with a hail of rockets.
5/8/2008 Iraq Baghdad 10 25 Mujahideen murder ten Iraqi civilians with a car bombing and rocket attack.
5/8/2008 Iraq Ramadi 4 8 al-Qaeda gunmen kill four Iraqis in a terror attack.
5/8/2008 Pakistan Swat 1 1 Fundamentalists blow up a music shop and attack a local security base, killing one soldier.
5/7/2008 Afghanistan Khost 4 2 A child and a scientist are among four killed in two attacks by Islamic terrorists.
5/7/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A wood factory worker is brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen.
5/7/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 5 1 A young girl is among five people killed when Islamic militias detonate a roadside bomb.
5/7/2008 Iraq Yusufiya 1 0 A local teacher is gunned down by religious militants.
5/7/2008 Jordan Amman 1 0 A man shoots his 20-year-old sister three times in the head after learning that she is pregnant outside of marriage.
5/7/2008 Philippines Midsayap 3 10 Suspected Islamists detonate a crude bomb, killing three people waiting for a bus.
5/7/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 13 0 Thirteen civilians are killed when Islamic terrorists ambush an Ethiopian convoy.
5/6/2008 Pakistan Bannu 3 4 Three people are killed by a suicide bomber pulling a rickshaw.
5/6/2008 Iraq Tikrit 4 27 Sunni radicals detonate a car bomb outside a restaurant, killing four and injuring dozens of others.

11 posted on 07/05/2008 5:49:04 PM PDT by NonLinear (When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.)
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To: Imanhamdani
Imanhamdani
Since Jul 5, 2008

So tell me, who was Jesus?

12 posted on 07/05/2008 6:54:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Imanhamdani

“Dear Islam Forum: I never thought that the letters I read were actually true, until one day I had an interesting experience involving a sheep named Fatima...”


13 posted on 07/05/2008 6:56:22 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: Imanhamdani

There’s a small problem. The Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah makes anything you say potential bullsh!t.


14 posted on 07/05/2008 7:01:15 PM PDT by Stentor (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The Crusades were only against the Moslems

How thoughtful of them that they took the time to massacre the Jews they found on their way to Jerusalem, then.

15 posted on 07/05/2008 8:30:41 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Imanhamdani
Well, well. Another thread on Islam. That makes two in two days. Yesterday's supposedly from a long time Freeper but which to me had all the hallmarks of a hack job.

I'm picking that there'll be more in the coming days.

Has the FR religion forum been chosen as a target for a little propaganda? That's quite a compliment to FR.

As for the piece on jihad, there's nothing there that Bin Laden and al-Qaeda wouldn't be happy to sign off on. Their position, as I understand it, is that all the bombings, murder and bloodshed are in fact defensive in nature. According to Osama and his acolytes, they have been necessitated by the presence of infidels on Muslim land and are thus classified as a defense not an unjust aggression. So clearly, on this basis, any sort of mayhem can be justified and thus your definition of true jihad as "defensive" and not "aggressive" is essentially meaningless.

16 posted on 07/05/2008 9:26:47 PM PDT by marshmallow (An infallible Bible is useless without an infallible interpreter)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The truth is that the crusades were a defensive action taken by Christians because of the agression brought about by the Islamic based expension.


17 posted on 07/06/2008 3:04:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Imanhamdani

Ah yes, strike off the heads, strike off the hands of the unbelievers.
That’s what the prophet says, is it not?
Jihad means EXACTLY what it has been used to mean.
You cannot fool those who are informed.
elif air ab denikch.


18 posted on 07/06/2008 11:59:15 AM PDT by Darksheare (Why do they call it Salad Dressing when clothes aren't in any way involved?)
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To: peeps36

Problem with that is that the Koran itself says to kill us wherever we are found.
It says ‘unbelievers’, and ‘infidels’, but the definitions of those words are awlays, ‘anyone who does not bow to Mecca’.

So you be the judge.


19 posted on 07/06/2008 12:00:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (Why do they call it Salad Dressing when clothes aren't in any way involved?)
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To: Darksheare; Imanhamdani
india bravo tango zulu
20 posted on 07/06/2008 12:33:31 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Imanhamdani

>> Since the aggression of earlier Christians in the 11th century the term Holy War has been used in the Christian sense. A Holy War is waged without rational justification but by the warped vision of a religious leader to conquer the Promised Land <<

By the 11th century, Islam had raped, piullaged, and burned its way across freom India to Spain. 2/3rds of Christendom lie in ruins, as it was so reluctant to make war, despite the horrific savagery that killed more three hundred times the death toll of the Crusades. Finally, the Crusades were called in defense of Constantinople, to rescue civilization from the Satanic hordes of Islam.

That’s right: THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION people died at the insane, demonic hordes unleashed by that possessed pig-raping pedophile, Mohammed.

You talk in one breath as if you desire peace and rational discourse, and in the next you nurse thousand-year-old slanders. Take your evil elsewhere.


21 posted on 07/06/2008 5:17:05 PM PDT by dangus
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To: NonLinear

Don’t forget that Islamicist genocide killed 100 million Indians, 150 millian Chinese, and 100 million Africans and Midlle Easterners.

The Crusades... both sides... resulted in 1 million dead.


22 posted on 07/06/2008 5:20:48 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Imanhamdani; timpad; TBarnett34; MeekOneGOP; PetroniDE; Lady Jag; mhking; glock rocks; ...
Are the feline residents of Valhala invited to your Holy War?

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

23 posted on 07/07/2008 2:35:18 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

Damn it. Not again!

IATZ.


24 posted on 07/07/2008 2:38:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: darkwing104

Did I make it IBTZ?


25 posted on 07/07/2008 2:38:41 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; rabscuttle385
I didn't make it either...


26 posted on 07/07/2008 2:40:34 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Imanhamdani
No sale, Hamdani-boy.


27 posted on 07/07/2008 2:42:13 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Proudly belching carbon units into the air since 1961)
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To: darkwing104; Imanhamdani

Mad Mo is Satan's ho!

28 posted on 07/07/2008 2:43:18 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: Imanhamdani

I’m an Ham Dani?

LOL

Too much hashish perhaps?

“The use of the word Jihad in reference to a holy war is an entirely incorrect usage’

BS!!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 07/07/2008 2:54:19 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Imanhamdani

Photobucket

30 posted on 07/07/2008 2:56:43 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Imanhamdani

What was it you were fishing for?

31 posted on 07/07/2008 2:57:34 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military)
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To: darkwing104; Imanhamdani
What Viking Kitties think of you, troll boy!

Photobucket

32 posted on 07/07/2008 3:00:31 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: darkwing104; Darksheare
in after the zappage
33 posted on 07/07/2008 3:01:34 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: darkwing104

I’m happy to post after the Zot on this benighted thread.


34 posted on 07/07/2008 3:09:15 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
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To: All

IATZ

35 posted on 07/07/2008 3:11:01 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I am waiting on a Fatwa against the Viking Kitties...


36 posted on 07/07/2008 3:14:25 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: A.Hun; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allosaurs_r_us; AmericanInfidel0; amxfan2002; Angus MacGregor; ...

///// #PPPPPPP

DTG 072319Z JUL 08

T O P S E C R E T VIKINGKITTEN

SUBJ: ZOT

RE: POST 1

1. WATCH NCOIC HAS CONFIRMED REPEAT CONFIRMED TROLL SIGHTING, THIS DTG, THIS LOCATION. FR MOD COMMAND HAS INITIATED ZORCH ON TARGET (ZOT).

3. WATCH NCOIC HAS CONCLUDED BATTLE DAMAGE ASSESSMENT (BDA) FOLLOWING STRIKE TERMINATION ORDER. BDA EVALUATES STRIKE EFFECT AS LEVEL-ONE “EXTRA CRISPY”.

3. ALL ELEMENTS ARE AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE OPTION “DOGPILE” UPON RECEIPT OF THIS MSG.

4. ALL ELEMENTS ARE DIRECTED TO RALLY POINT URSULA FOR AUTHORIZED LINE-DANCE UPON TROLL REMAINS. GENERAL ORDER ONE IS SUSPENDED THIS OCCASION. CONSUMPTION OF ADULT BEVERAGES IS ENCOURAGED.

5. CHALLENGE/PASSWORD: VALHALLA-OVERLORD.

#/////

NOTHING FOLLOWS

EOM EOM EOM


37 posted on 07/07/2008 3:23:31 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge
The zotted one sounds like he may have been a retread. As such, he warrants a kitteh!


38 posted on 07/07/2008 3:30:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Damn. I miss all the good zots.

We didn't even get to play with this one.

39 posted on 07/07/2008 4:32:31 PM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: darkwing104

Job well done Viking kitties! =^..^=


40 posted on 07/07/2008 4:33:44 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Malacoda
:) I'm sure we'll have other opportunities.
41 posted on 07/07/2008 4:34:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Biggirl
Thanks


42 posted on 07/07/2008 4:35:31 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Imanhamdani

You say you’re non-violent, but your slander against Christians sounds like more of the same garbage we get from the hirabis. If you will judge me by the actions of crusaders, shall I judge you by the assassination of Asma bint Marwan by Muhammad’s followers, who was stabbed so hard through the chest that that her body was stapled to the frame of her couch by the blade, while her baby slept beside her? Or perhaps I should judge your faith by the slaughter of the 600-800 men of the Beni Qoreiga, and the selling of 1,000 Beni Qoreiga women and children into slavery in Medina in the 620s?

Islam is besieged by hirabis and distrusted by Christians because you have embraced a different Gospel than the one Allah gave you, which was to bring you joy and salvation:

“Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: “Rulers and elders of the people! If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. He is

‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the capstone.’

Salvation is found in no one else, there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”—Acts 4:8-12

“When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.”—Revelation 1:17-18

“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!”—Galatians 1:8

May you find the Truth, the Way and the Life, the man Jesus Christ.


43 posted on 07/07/2008 5:22:33 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: JRios1968


Haaaa, haaa, haaa!! Good one!  !


44 posted on 07/07/2008 6:12:36 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: Imanhamdani; Mr. Silverback
"...May you find the Truth, the Way and the Life, the man Jesus Christ."

Furthermore, Jesus' final statement on the cross as He, the 'Lamb of God', taking our place in judgment, finally uttered:

"...It is finished...."[Joh 19:30]

Enduring till He had accomplished the work which He came to do, the FINAL work of the redemption of mankind!

Yet, 700 years later after this Mohammad comes along and crafting the belief system of Islam, contradicts this axiomatic truth?

As Mr. Silverback stated, may you find the Truth, the Way and the Life, the man Jesus Christ.

45 posted on 07/07/2008 6:30:17 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: NonLinear

Ah, thereligionofpeace.com...love that site, use it all the time at YouTube.

Hey, Imanhamdani, note how many women and children these guys are killing. They are killing the wives and children of their neighbors for the glory of Allah the merciful. So, if that’s NOT what Islam is all about, how about you go talk to those guys (or better yet, kill them) instead of bloviating at us about historical events that you’re getting wrong AND happened 800 years ago?


46 posted on 07/07/2008 7:10:58 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Salem

Thanks FRiend. Good words.


47 posted on 07/07/2008 7:20:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: darkwing104; Old Sarge

B-b-b-but! My daughter studied World Religions (a semester, online) and says “Islam is a religion of PEACE!”

I sent her The Obama File and told her it was neither.

*sheesh*

How long are we going to have to listen to the stock drivel from Liberal-Leftist-Loonacrats?


48 posted on 07/08/2008 6:45:21 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Quite right...an excellent site.


49 posted on 07/09/2008 4:15:37 AM PDT by NonLinear (When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.)
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To: Imanhamdani
GANKED
50 posted on 07/19/2008 7:24:26 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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