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Vatican Regret at Anglican Vote to Ordain Female Bishops
Vatican Radio ^ | July 8, 2008

Posted on 07/08/2008 7:44:22 AM PDT by NYer

(8 July 08 - RV) The Vatican Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity issued a Statement Tuesday regarding recent events within the Anglican Communion.

The Council is headed by Cardinal Walter Kasper. The statement reads:
 “We have regretfully learned of the Church of England vote to pave the way for the introduction of legislation which will lead to the ordaining of women to the Episcopacy.

The Catholic position on the issue was clearly expressed by Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II. Such a decision signifies a breaking away from the apostolic tradition maintained by all of the Churches since the first millennium, and therefore is a further obstacle for the reconciliation between the Catholic Church and the Church of England.

This decision will have consequences on the future of dialogue, which had up until now born fruit, as Cardinal Kasper had clearly explained when he spoke on June 5 2006 to all of the bishops of the Church of England at the invitation of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
The Cardinal has been invited once again to express the Catholic position at the next Lambeth Conference at the end of July”.
 This week the Church of England's ruling General Synod voted to consecrate women as bishops and approved a code of practice.

The synod members voted to approve work on a national statutory code to accommodate those within the Church who object to women bishops.
The synod rejected compromise proposals for new "super bishops" to cater for objectors - and also their preferred option of creating new dioceses.

The decision to go ahead with work on the code came after more than six hours of debate by the General Synod.

Some 1,300 clergy had threatened to leave the Church if safeguards were not agreed to reassure objectors.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: anglican; catholic; europeanchristians; femalebishops; homosexualagenda; lambeth; religiousleft; vatican
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1 posted on 07/08/2008 7:44:22 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

This replaces the previous thread that has been locked because I labeled it ‘Ecumenical’.


2 posted on 07/08/2008 7:45:33 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

The way forward to reunion between Rome and Canterbury does not lead through Canterbury but Lagos.


3 posted on 07/08/2008 8:00:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: NYer
The Cardinal has been invited once again to express the Catholic position at the next Lambeth Conference

Godspeed.

4 posted on 07/08/2008 8:19:49 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer

So much for Episcopal priests becoming Catholic priests.


5 posted on 07/08/2008 8:24:20 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: NYer

>>>This week the Church of England’s ruling General Synod voted to consecrate women as bishops and approved a code of practice>>>>

Good news for the next generation of girls! Fairness and equality should be a given in 2008!

Now the Catholic Church needs to allow women in that role.


6 posted on 07/08/2008 8:29:06 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: NYer

Time for the Anglican faithful, what remains of them, to flee this apostate body and find refuge in some other home. Rome is probably their most likely candidate but no one who is a Bible believing Christian should remain in this apostate church. You can bet that ordaining gay clergy is coming to England, much sooner than any of them would dream.


7 posted on 07/08/2008 8:34:03 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: NYer
“We have regretfully learned of the Church of England vote to pave the way for the introduction of legislation which will lead to the ordaining of women to the Episcopacy.

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It's unfortunate, but this may be an insurmountable obstruction. So be it.

8 posted on 07/08/2008 8:35:07 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HappyinAZ
Women in the clergy is against the direct teaching and authority of scripture. 1 Timothy. Jesus picked 12 men to be his apostles, and the apostles appointed men to be the heads of local bodies of worshipers. Men stand in the place of the apostles for a reason. The church is the bride of Christ. The Catholics (which I am not) understand this and definitely have it right.
9 posted on 07/08/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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......>>the apostles appointed men to be the heads of local bodies of worshipers...>>>

Rules made 1500 years ago, by men...when women were treated as less than posessions.

Bigotry is hard to overcome, but I’m glad to see the Angelicans are doing so!


10 posted on 07/08/2008 8:43:44 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

You’re kidding, right?


11 posted on 07/08/2008 8:50:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: HappyinAZ

Oh, please. It’s not “bigotry;” there’s a natural difference between men and women. Men can’t bear children or be mothers; women can’t be fathers or priests (or bishops).

All the churches with women “priests,” “bishops,” etc. are dying on the vine, anyway, so this will all be a moot point within a few years.


12 posted on 07/08/2008 8:57:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: HappyinAZ
Bigotry? Uh, no, it's called "complimentarian", and it's basis is in 1 Timothy, and it's been established orthodoxy for nearly two thousand years of Christian history. If you don't like it, take it up with the Apostle Paul.

As one other commenter here pointed out, any church that has allowed women clergy has seen a rapid decline. It holds true for each and every denomination that has abandoned God's Word. The Episcopal Church is seeing people leaving in droves, and you can be sure that the same will be happening with the Church of England.

In fact, 1300 clergymen and 11 bishops have already signed a letter threatening to leave (and defect to the Catholic Church, probably) if this resolution passed. You can be sure that we are witnessing the beginning of the breakup of the Church of England.

13 posted on 07/08/2008 9:09:04 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: NYer

I started another thread that links an article by Damian Thompson of the Telegraph, U.K. It states that at least 2 Anglican Traditonalist are going to seek Full Communion with Rome and also try to bring in their entire congregations en masse.

Interesting times we are living in and the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI keeps getting more and more interesting every day.

Regards


14 posted on 07/08/2008 9:09:21 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: livius
Amen. Following as best we can in the footsteps of Christ seems to be a better choice.

Nothing He did was without plan or reason.

15 posted on 07/08/2008 9:09:44 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
“We have regretfully learned of the Church of England vote to pave the way for....the ordaining of women to the Episcopacy."

Hmm, but they had no problem with the installation of Vicky Gene Robinson as a Bishop?
(For those who don't recall, he/she is the openly homosexual Episcopal Bishop from New England).

16 posted on 07/08/2008 9:09:50 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: CTrent1564
Interesting times we are living in and the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI keeps getting more and more interesting every day.

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I couldn't agree more!

17 posted on 07/08/2008 9:14:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HappyinAZ
Rules made 1500 years ago, by men...when women were treated as less than posessions.

Actually, a decision made by Jesus the Christ. This man/God was so unconventional that he commanded his followers to "love your enemies." It is the modern apostates who are prostrate before the mores of the moment, not Jesus.

18 posted on 07/08/2008 9:14:41 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: Psalm 73

I believe the Episcopal Church and the Church of England are separate administrative units. One of the issues here is that the C of E is now, apparently, going to accept US Episcopalian parctices that it had formerly rejected.

Granted, they are ultimately the same church, but a lot of more conservative Anglicans in England liked to maintain this fiction that somehow the Episcopal Church was just radical, extreme, and didn’t really reflect “their” church. But of course it did, which is what they are now being forced to admit.


19 posted on 07/08/2008 9:17:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

This is a good, fair and just decision by the Angelicans.

It is reflective of the fact that women are just as educated and just as capable as men in the year 2008. This was not the case when these “rules” were written (by men and for men)a thousand years ago.

Women can and will continue in the role of spiritual leaders.... And, for any churh to admonish them for it is a sad sad thing that reflects “blind following” as oppossed to “informend leading”.

I’m open to whomever speaks for goodness, kindness, and holds the 10 commandments to be a good guide for humanity. Shouldn’t matter if this person is black, white, orange,man or woman.....


20 posted on 07/08/2008 9:23:55 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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