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Divorcing elderly wife ends priesthood hopes
Canberra Times ^ | 13/07/2008 | MATTHEW BENNS

Posted on 07/12/2008 8:41:39 AM PDT by Gamecock

A TRAINEE priest due for an audience with the Pope this week has agreed to leave a seminary after church officials discovered he had an ex-wife 56 years his senior and that he claimed his late father may have been involved in murdering close family and friends.

But Salvatore Scevola, 36, still plans to get in to see the Pope through his media accreditation with Vatican television channel Telepace.

Catholic officials became concerned about Mr Scevola's suitability for the priesthood when they discovered that in his 20s he was married to a woman 56 years older than him, eventually divorcing after 5½ years. He went on to run the family car wash business at Five Dock, where he was fined $5000 for not paying workers' compensation premiums.

In an appeal against the fine to the NSW Industrial Relations Commission Mr Scevola told a psychologist whose report was heard as evidence that his "controlling" father had ordered him not to pay the premiums. He said his father was violent, slept with a loaded gun beside him and had unsavoury connections. The psychologist's report said Mr Scevola suspected his father may have shot dead "compari" - close friends and family. His appeal against the penalty was dismissed.

Mr Scevola also had a high public profile through his role as chief of the Australian Multicultural TV Network, as an ethnic lobbyist and stood as an independent candidate in the 2003 NSW election. He now lives with his mother in Liverpool.

Mr Scevola said: "I cared for a lovely old lady for some 5½ years. The woman was alone in her home and I stepped in and tried to help the situation. There is no scandal there, there is no suggestion I did anything improper. I have harmed no one, I have been charged with nothing and I have done nothing wrong to anyone."

The Rector of the Seminary of the Good Shepherd, Bishop Julian Porteous, said Mr Scevola was leaving the seminary by mutual agreement, having completed one semester.

"I explained to him that aspects of his life prior to entering the seminary may work against him and the Church, were he to proceed to be ordained as a priest in the Archdiocese of Sydney," Bishop Porteous said.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: divorce; priest

1 posted on 07/12/2008 8:41:39 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Alex Murphy; Larry Lucido

Who is this guy? A male Anna Nicole Smith?


2 posted on 07/12/2008 8:42:57 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy
56 years older than him, eventually divorcing after 5½ years.

What would be really embarassing is if SHE divorced HIM!

3 posted on 07/12/2008 8:52:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Indeed.

I think it is safe to say this guy is a mimbo.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 8:53:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock
Mr Scevola said: "I cared for a lovely old lady for some 5½ years. The woman was alone in her home and I stepped in and tried to help the situation. There is no scandal there, there is no suggestion I did anything improper. I have harmed no one, I have been charged with nothing and I have done nothing wrong to anyone.

Lovely thoughts and intentions but one does not require to mary his charge in order to properly care for the person. It's either just plain creepy or the woman is loaded and he was aware that after her death he would stand to inherit it all.
5 posted on 07/12/2008 9:08:11 AM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: Larry Lucido

I recently found out that the long-time dean of the Notre Dame law department, David Link, who had something like 6 kids, is a year away from becoming a Holy Cross priest.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 9:16:58 AM PDT by prolifefirst (w)
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To: prolifefirst

Is he married? Divorced? Widowed?


7 posted on 07/12/2008 9:27:58 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Gamecock; Larry Lucido
Who is this guy? A male Anna Nicole Smith?

Do you know who Martha Raye is? Have you ever heard of Mark Harris?

8 posted on 07/12/2008 9:37:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: tiki
Is he married? Divorced? Widowed?

I'm confident the former ND law dean and father of 6 is widowed, but I don't know for a fact.

9 posted on 07/12/2008 9:45:52 AM PDT by prolifefirst (w)
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To: Alex Murphy

Yes. No. Now upon following the link I have learned something new today.


10 posted on 07/12/2008 10:14:21 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: prolifefirst

No, he was already ordained last month. His wife passed away in 2003.

http://www.catholicexplorer.com/explore4325/nationworld/retired-law-school-dean-widowed-grandfather-ordain.shtml


11 posted on 07/12/2008 10:28:38 AM PDT by Tazlo (I need to get a tagline)
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To: Gamecock

Why doesn’t he just get the Catholic Church to declare that the marriage never happened? (annulment) It’s as easy as an application. It works for tens of thousands every year.


12 posted on 07/12/2008 10:42:22 AM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: Alex Murphy
I didn't know who either of them were until I followed the link.

From the link:

Spouse(s)
Bud Westmore (1937-1938)
David Rose (1938-1941)
Neal Lang (1941-1944)
Nick Condos (1944-1953)
Edward T. Begley (1954-1956)
Robert O'Shea' (1956-1960)
Mark Harris (1991-1994)


Mama Mia! That's a lot of husbands!
13 posted on 07/12/2008 12:47:11 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world... and she walks into mine.")
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To: fwdude

An annulment would be kinda dumb: a past marriage is not in itself an absolute impediment to ordination. The problem was found in the wider vistas of weirdness, don’cha think?


14 posted on 07/12/2008 1:22:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Christ said, 'I am the Truth'; not 'I am the custom.'"-- St. Toribio)
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To: Gamecock

Why does this thread have the vibe of a scandal? The church certainly acted correctly according to it public positions, and the worst which can certainly be said for the man is that he was in a wierd relationship.


15 posted on 07/13/2008 1:47:55 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I don’t know. I posted it because of the weird nature of the relationship.


16 posted on 07/13/2008 3:31:54 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock

So you’re saying you didn’t intend the post to have “the vibe of a scandal” (to quote myself)? It’s just because it’s “News of the Wierd?”


17 posted on 07/13/2008 8:05:51 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

It sounds to me like the guy has the potential for some emotional issues which may make the rigors of chastity very difficult. Because of such rigors, and the impact a priest has on his congregation, priests should be screened for emotional health.

As for the reason he married the reason the woman: Whatever Gamecock’s intentions are, the news media would never passes up an opportunity to create a sense of scandal, particularly if it fits an existing template. Therefore, the fact that the paper doesn’t mention any significant wealth of the woman is a dog that isn’t barking. It seems, therefore, crass and un-Christian to presume such a motive to the marriage.

There are many legal rights which afford a spouse a much greater ability than a friend to make sure that a sick or elderly person is well taken care of.

The story references either a severely violent family background, or mental defect Just to suggest that there are many explanations possible, and not to assert the veracity of his one (for it’s also somewhat scandalous): Maybe the man has been psychologically scarred badly enough he didn’t see himself capable of a healthy, productive sexual relationship... so chose a relationship in which he could be a do-gooder. When that didn’t work out, he sought out a way to use his inabilities for a more certain good.

(Yes, contrary to Luther’s and Calvin’s take on Catholicism, the Catholic church does seek to correct the natural impulse that one has to earn anything good, including God’s love. As such, anything that tips a vocation director that a man just can’t seem trying to earn his way into Heaven, in spite of correction, is gravely troublesome.)


18 posted on 07/13/2008 8:29:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Yup.

Notice how I didn’t say anything about the priesthood, but instead about the nature of the relationship.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 8:35:02 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: dangus; Gamecock
Post #15: Why does this thread have the vibe of a scandal?
Post #16: So you’re saying you didn’t intend the post to have “the vibe of a scandal” (to quote myself)?
Post #18: Whatever Gamecock’s intentions are

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Attempting to discern another poster's intentions or motivations - i.e. mind reading - is a form of making it personal.

20 posted on 07/13/2008 8:41:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alex Murphy; dangus
Post #18: Whatever Gamecock’s intentions are

Attempting to discern another poster's intentions or motivations - i.e. mind reading - is a form of making it personal.

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Imho, this is not "attempting to discern intention", it is dismissing any intention as beside the point.

21 posted on 07/13/2008 8:49:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Please ping me when you toss my name around. Such is considered appropriate here on FR.


22 posted on 07/13/2008 9:10:27 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock

My apologies. I meant no disrespect.


23 posted on 07/13/2008 9:13:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Accepted. Have a blessed Lord’s Day.


24 posted on 07/13/2008 9:17:28 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Gamecock

And you as well.


25 posted on 07/13/2008 9:18:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sandyeggo; Alex Murphy
thread nanny.

hehehe Perhaps he neglected to log in as a Mod? < /conspiracy theory>

27 posted on 07/13/2008 9:37:24 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Alex Murphy

Since you are not the Religion Mod or a mod of any other kind, please search your keyboard for quotation marks.


29 posted on 07/13/2008 9:54:46 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: prolifefirst

Well, widowers are allowed to become priests.


30 posted on 07/13/2008 1:53:44 PM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: dangus

You’re right.

No one has the right to demand ordination. The Church decided who will be ordained. There are seminarians with spotless records, who have nothing scandalous or questionable in their past, who eventually are dismissed from the seminary because the bishop decides they are not truly called to the priesthood. It looks like this particular diocese dodged a bullet here. This guy probably should not have even been admitted to the seminary in the first place, given his background.


31 posted on 07/13/2008 2:01:29 PM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: steadfastconservative

>> This guy probably should not have even been admitted to the seminary in the first place, given his background. <<

No, he shouldn’t’ve, but it’s pretty clear that this background was more recently
discovered.


32 posted on 07/14/2008 5:28:18 AM PDT by dangus
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To: sandyeggo; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
To be the RM, or to not be the RM.

You guys are too funny.

I can't believe you fell for that again!

After seeing a few of these would the real RM please stand up games, I must admit that I was tempted to run some interference too.

I must say Alex, your more adventurous than I. ;)
33 posted on 07/14/2008 8:25:26 AM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder, Among those who kneel before a man; Standing.)
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