Posted on 07/16/2008 1:59:50 PM PDT by NYer
The Catholic Church will expand its provision of "Anglican Use" parishes in the United States in order to allow whole communities of traditionalist Anglicans into the Roman fold, a senior Catholic archbishop has announced.
Rev John J Myers, Archbishop of Newark and Ecclesiastical Delegate for the Pastoral Provision, told a conference of ex-Anglicans on Friday that "we are working on expanding the mandate of the Pastoral Provision [of Catholic parishes using Anglican-inspired services] to include those clergy and faithful of 'continuing Anglican communities'.
"We are striving to increase awareness of our apostolate to Anglican Christians who desire to be reconciled with the Holy See. We have experienced the wonder of several Episcopal bishops entering into full communion with the Catholic Church and we continue to receive requests from priests and laity about the Pastoral Provision."
This is big news, and makes nonsense of the claim that Pope Benedict wants to dissuade Anglo-Catholics from converting. The obvious interpretation of the Archbishop's words is that the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC), a "continuing church" which has hundreds of thousands of members worldwide (though few in the UK), will eventually be given its own Catholic parishes which use a Eucharistic Prayer incorporating Cranmerian language.
This possibility has existed since the 1970s, but Archbishop Myers indicates that it is only now - under a sympathetic Pope, and during the break-up of the Anglican Communion - that the Pastoral Provision is entering a new dimension.
If Rome is expanding its network of ex-Anglican parishes in America, then we can rest assured that it is sympathetic to the notion of group conversion in England. The Vatican is well aware that such a process is likely to be complicated and patchy; no one is naive enough to assume that entire parishes will "bring their buildings with them".
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
Hat tip to freeper Frank Sheed for bringing this article to our attention.
This is hugh!
I say welcome home. I’d love to find an Anglican Use parish in SE VA.
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From what I have gathered, as I have followed this story pretty closly, their appears to be an Anglican-use pastoral provision that is about to be started in Pheonix, Arizona.
According to the accounts at the Pastoral Provision conference, which was held in San Antonio last week, there is lots of activity going on with many Traditional Anglicans looking to come into communion with Rome.
We should all pray for these Traditional Anglicans as many prepare to enter full communion with the Catholic Church.
Regards
Wow. It’s really happening?
Not so obvious on two counts.
First, it is not at all obvious that the TAC will be “given its own Catholic parishes” at all. It's possible that the Catholic Church may either 1.) expand the current Pastoral Provision to absorb entire non-Catholic parishes, and eventually permit their current ministers to become Catholic priests; or even 2.) erect a canonical structure by which to accommodate Episcopalians/Anglicans/etc. to enter the Church corporately BUT WITH BISHOPS APPOINTED BY ROME WHO ARE NOT CURRENTLY ANGLICAN - CONTINUING OR OTHERWISE - BISHOPS.
It's possible that under 2.) we might see some sort of personal prelature, apostolic administration, or remotely, even an “Anglican Rite” Catholic Church. But bishops of the current Anglican and continuing Anglican communities aren't going to be consecrated to the Catholic episcopacy to take charge of this new structure, whatever it may be.
On the second point, it's unlikely that the Church will admit “Cranmerian language” into the Eucharistic prayer, at least if one means “language that transmits a Cranmerian theology.” The Anglican Use already has incorporated much of the Book of Common Prayer language, but stripping it of any Protestant content, and repairing it to properly reflect Catholic theology.
Sad for the Church of England and Episcopalians here in the USA, but as liberals continue their homosexual putsch within the C.O.E. there will certainly be no room for conservatives - not that they should want to stay anyway.
What will remain of a stand-alone left-wing, secular church will be gone within a generation anyway.
Oh c'mon! As rich as the Catholic Church is--I'm sure they can afford lawyers who can figure out a way around that little stumbling block. The Anglicans are not going to like leaving their pretty historical churches, you know.
Were you at the conference? If not, next year!
Welcome home, brothers and sisters; we’ll see you around next Easter!
And we will probably see you in church much before your formal acceptance into the Catholic Church next Easter.
Not so fast.
When I was last in Britain (admittedly it's been awhile now) I was ASTOUNDED at the number of Anglican churches that had been deconsecrated or were simply shuttered and unused. I bet the church would be glad to get rid of the upkeep cost of such properties.
No, but a good friend of mine, who is a Traditional Anglican, and went through the RCIA program that I work with, was instrumental in getting an Anglican-use group started in the Archdiocese of New Orleans (it is listed Anglican Use society web page).
He is well connected with Anglican groups who have come over to Rome and it is an issue that I have taken much interest in. As I stated on another blog, although I am an American of Sicilian ancestry, and life-long Catholic, I have always had a love and respect for England, its system of Law, and contribution to market economics, its literature, and of course “British Humor”. While as a Catholic, the break up of Christendom in the 16th century was tragic all around, I must confess when reading history and seeing England break from Rome always stung more than say the Nordic Countries (no offense to you good folks of Scandanavian ancestry) that broke from Rome as well.
Regards
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I see the Ruth Gledhill of the Times of London has picked up this story, too. Small world.
A hearty welcome, although the reasons behind this are sad.
Welcome home brothers and sisters to Rome. I predict that it will not suprise me if there will be not only Anglicans swimming the Tiber, but whole boatloads of Anglicans sailing the Tiber.
Where I am from, CT, I suspect there are parishes of that backround that may end up in the future coming home to Rome.
I couldn’t find a link to a group in New Orleans on the links page of the Anglican Use Society website. I found Arlington, Houston, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Boston, and Scranton. Where is it located?
Sadly what we are seeing with the Episcopalian church and by extention the CofE is a church that is getting ready to implode from within.
C.S. Lewis in his very learned volume on "English Literature in the 16th century" (part of the Oxford History of English Lit series) has a long discussion of Cranmer's Prayer Book and exactly what it is that makes it so appealing. It's partly the rhythm, partly the use of near-synonyms in sequence "read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest them," partly the choice of words that ring both with sound and meaning.
I'm afraid the current translation in use in the Ordinary Rite is somewhat lacking by comparison. And Cranmer's language is in most cases closer to the original Latin.
Of course, many Episcopalians would wait until there was a nice cruise ship . . .
Which reminds me of an old joke -- when the American frontier opened up, the evangelists started westward. The Baptists walked, the Methodists rode horseback, the Presbyterians took the stagecoach . . . . but the Episcopalians waited until they invented the Pullman Car.
This is not HAPPENING! It is simply POSSIBLE.
Another report was filed on RORATE CAELI:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2008/07/archbishop-john-j.html
The source is from comments made by Archbishop Myers of Newark who spoke at the Church of the Atonement in San Antonio. His talk is reproduced here:
http://atonementparish.blogspot.com/2008/07/keynote-address-by-archbishop-myers.html
Note that Mr. Thompson, who is well connected in England, is just connecting the dots. Archbishop Myers has some glorious things to say about the Church (Catholic) in England and on British Marian Devotion. Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel and the brown scapular came from St. Simon Stock—an English Catholic.
Sitetest,
What any overall structure will look like, whether it is international or just composed of Americans is not known. What IS known is that two senior Cardinals are attending the Lambeth Conference and are observing. It is not fact yet. It is only in the realm of possibility. But is it not a wonderful possibility!
Frank
Along the same line, there’s a good comment on the article at the blogs.telegraph.co.uk website. “Let us hope that Cranmer the literary genius, the superb translater, will be rescued from Cranmer the Reformed theologian.” Frederick Jones
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Cardinal Kasper is speaking here on Saturday. Kasper doesn't want defectors encouraged because he doesn't want to exacerbate Anglican schism. Others in the Vatican believe the Anglican Communion is irrevocably ruptured and want to give the red carpet and even the red hat treatment to Anglican trads. Hence the imminent beatification of Newman that we wrote about this week. Cardinal Ivan Dias, who heads the Congregation for Evangelisaton, is here at Lambeth as an 'observer'. There are some suggesting that it's not the Anglicans he's observing so much as Cardinal Kasper.:-)
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=59691
This could clear up a lot. In short, the English Bishops are in a dither over priests who like the TLM. And now, it is possible that the Anglican Church will have orthodox Bishops who become Catholic?
I think Phil Lawler nails it, ELS. Lots of disinfo. I detect lots of sulfur in the air. Demonic spirits love disunity...
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I apologize, it is on the Pastoral provision webpage. The Anglican-Use Group is not a stand alone parish, but has had an Anglican Use Liturgy and currently is having morning and evening prayer according to the Anglican Use.
Regards
Oh my gosh! Me too!
Personally, I’m looking forward to finding an Anglican Use parish nearby to visit occasionally. With a reverent Novus Order (some Latin), Tridentine, and Anglican Use options available for many Catholics, how many will be left going to the Trautperson clowns and balloons Mass?
The real estate controlled by Continuing Anglican churches is about as humble and pedestrian as you can get.
If you remember, please send me information about this when it takes place.
This pic was up on Gledhill’s blog, but they took it down.
ABC is looking a bit manic.
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/16/abc1_3.jpg
What nonsense. Aside from the fact that Anglicanism is schism, the CoE is obviously unconcerned about offending God or anyone else. Why assist their pagan ways?
Maybe the Catholics could hire some hotshot lawyers to seize the few archetechtural gems and let the rest go. I know they can do it if they put their minds to it.
The ones who "dig" it ;-), most of whom are 65+ and those who have grown up in dioceses, like mine, where liturgical novelty is the norm and the TLM is for the "eccentrics".
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You mean the churches that the CoE originally seized from the Catholic Church? We would appreciate them being returned.
Some of us already decamped on our own, because we were in a minority even in our own parishes, but there are parishes of faithful Christians who have stayed mostly because they didn't have any definite place to go.
This initiative by Rome is offering them a clear destination and a warm welcome. That's all most "high church" parishes will need to take the collective plunge into the Tiber.
Plenty of these,
But also plenty of these.
#1 resembles a government building.
He is just a wooly-minded scholar type -- he doesn't have the guts or the killer instinct to deal with this type of problem.
They need somebody like Odo of Bayeux, or if they have to get an Anglican, Leonidas Polk.
That's St. Martins-in-the-Fields, designed by James Gibbs in the 1720s. It was a model for many churches in New England.
To the extent that it uses the Palladian style (although it incorporates some Baroque influences as well) I suppose the portico looks a little "official". But the style was used for churches long before the Victorians hijacked it for government buildings. And structures like the old General Post Office in St. Martin le Grand, although they used the same sort of portico, were much longer and lower, and didn't have the strong vertical line of Gibbs's church.
I like #2 better. :)
Except for the top, brick part, which looks as though it may have been added at a later date.
The church was badly damaged in the Blitz, and they built it back pretty much as it was in 1939.
The basic structure is 14th century, but the church burned repeatedly BEFORE the Blitz - once during the reign of Henry VIII and again in 1897. It did not get hit in the London Great Fire, though.
I'm interested in the church because my gggg grandfather John Bale was baptized there in 1794. It was a hotbed of Puritanism - Milton, Cromwell and Foxe (Book of Martyrs Foxe) were all parishioners. Maybe that's why my 4g gf eventually became a Freethinker!
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