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ROMAN CATHOLICISM SPAWNED THE CURRENT APOSTASY IN EVANGELICALISM
Apprising Ministries ^ | May 14, 2008 | Ken Silva

Posted on 07/22/2008 12:50:09 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg

In the Vatican II document Nostra Aetate (NA), “Declaration On The Relation Of The Church To Non-Christian Religions,” birthed from apostate Roman Catholicism we can trace the very rotten root of The Ecumenical Church Of Deceit (ECoD) of postevangelicalism. And this document also spawned the current apostasy festering within evangelicalism as well.

For you see it was NA that would open the door for Trappist monk Thomas Merton, one of most highly prized Golden Buddhas of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism, to openly pursue his own antibiblical interspiritual “dialogues.” As we point out below he wasn’t alone and, just as previously shown in the Apprising Ministries piece Doug Pagitt, Rob Bell, Dalai Lama and the Interspiritual Seeds of Compassion Event, this lunacy in the Lord’s Name is ongoing still.

...these men have set up idols in their hearts and put wicked stumbling blocks before their faces.(Ezekiel 14:3).

(Excerpt) Read more at apprising.org ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostasy; catholicbashing; hydrophobia
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Full article has many embedded links, showing the dangers of mystical spiritual practices and exposing several Protestant advocates of this evil.
1 posted on 07/22/2008 12:50:09 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

REAL conservatives don’t engage in this type of bigotry.


2 posted on 07/22/2008 12:57:41 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

What an ugly article. Real Christians work out their own salvation with trembling and fear, and have no need nor inclination to point guilty fingers at others.

Methinks some time in the Confessional is in order.


3 posted on 07/22/2008 1:01:44 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Wow, do you subscribe to some special service that sends you anti-Catholic filth on a daily basis?


4 posted on 07/22/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I read a lot of Christian sites that point out the filth that passes for Christianity without regard as to who embraces it. This article is a good example, taking Rick Warren and other Protestants to task.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 1:07:49 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: SumProVita

Real conservatives embrace the truth and are not afraid to point out lies and deception.


7 posted on 07/22/2008 1:08:40 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Methinks confessionals are another scripture-twisting ritual any Biblically sound saint would avoid.


8 posted on 07/22/2008 1:09:32 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Really? Source?


9 posted on 07/22/2008 1:09:53 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
ROMAN CATHOLICISM SPAWNED THE CURRENT APOSTASY IN EVANGELICALISM

You're too reserved.

Add the Holocaust, AIDS, the Second World War, the Cold War, the Oil Crisis and Dutch Elm disease.

Did I miss anything?

10 posted on 07/22/2008 1:12:11 PM PDT by marshmallow (An infallible Bible is useless without an infallible interpreter.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

I suppose Rome is partly at fault. If it weren’t for the their push back towards orthodoxy, then all those “Catholics” who wanted to make the Roman Church into something it shouldn’t be might not have swum the Channel and helped screw up Anglicanism.

Some of the most extreme liberal clerics I have come across in the Episcopal Church were “Catholics” (to use the term very loosely) who gravitated towards ECUSA after Paul6 put the breaks on Vatican 2 and JP2 began reigning in liberation theology.

Unlike Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicanism did not have and does not have a viable tradition of doctrinal enforcement.


11 posted on 07/22/2008 1:12:16 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

> Methinks confessionals are another scripture-twisting ritual any Biblically sound saint would avoid.

Confess your faults one to another.


12 posted on 07/22/2008 1:12:37 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
I read a lot of Christian sites that point out the filth that passes for Christianity without regard as to who embraces it. This article is a good example, taking Rick Warren and other Protestants to task.

But you only post the ones that blame the Church for the long-foretold disaster of Protestantism?

13 posted on 07/22/2008 1:13:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

No good can come from this ...


14 posted on 07/22/2008 1:14:33 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Then read what the Catholic Church really teaches....and read it all in context at the source.

Practice what you “preach.”

Here are a few beginnings for you:

http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

http://www.ewtn.com/faith/Teachings/index.htm


15 posted on 07/22/2008 1:20:32 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: marshmallow

Lol! ;-)


16 posted on 07/22/2008 1:21:55 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: wagglebee; SumProVita; marsh-mellow
Mmmmmmmm...I love FRUITCAKE.

Honestly...where do they get this stuff? Can you imagine if one of us posted a theory that Protestantism is to blame for a variety of the social ills we face today?

17 posted on 07/22/2008 1:24:06 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum

There was a time when FR didn’t allow this type of post — I don’t know when or why the policy changed. :(


18 posted on 07/22/2008 1:26:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: thefrankbaum

Love the pic!! ;-)

Where do they get this stuff? All I can say is that Screwtape is very busy these days.


19 posted on 07/22/2008 1:26:58 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Ken Silva's quarrelsome rant to Dr. Frank Page, leader of Southern Baptist Conference.

Enjoy.

Did you miss this one, Manfred?

20 posted on 07/22/2008 1:28:04 PM PDT by marshmallow (An infallible Bible is useless without an infallible interpreter.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

John 20:21-23


21 posted on 07/22/2008 1:29:44 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

22 posted on 07/22/2008 1:33:56 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: wagglebee

Did you know that rabies is a form of encephalitis that causes anxiety, irrational fear, foaming at the mouth and later, hallucinations and wild agitations?


23 posted on 07/22/2008 1:33:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

> John 20:21-23

...and James 5:16


24 posted on 07/22/2008 1:34:05 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Ah, the Epistle of Straw.

;O)


25 posted on 07/22/2008 1:34:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

> Methinks confessionals are another scripture-twisting ritual any Biblically sound saint would avoid.

And methinks confessionals are the very place every scripture-twisting Biblically-errant wicked sinner wants to avoid.

Confess your faults one to another. Don’t leave it for one moment longer! You *know* you want to do it!

Come to Jesus, brother. Be ye cleansed!


26 posted on 07/22/2008 1:39:21 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: marshmallow

I also enjoyed reading *Ken Silva: Poop is Emergent Too*

http://poopemerges.wordpress.com/category/ken-silva

Ahhh...the legalism of those with grudges... dressed up as ministers.


27 posted on 07/22/2008 1:39:37 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Petronski

I never got the memo. Just exactly when did we fall into apostasy? I’m always the last to know.


28 posted on 07/22/2008 1:40:32 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: thefrankbaum
Can you imagine if one of us posted a theory that Protestantism is to blame for a variety of the social ills we face today?

It's not all that different from when Hitler tried to blame the Jews for everything.

29 posted on 07/22/2008 1:43:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Petronski

> Ah, the Epistle of Straw.

(grin!) Just making hay while the sun shines...


30 posted on 07/22/2008 1:44:40 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Petronski

Yep. They leave the Church, splinter off into thousands of different groups (the splintering started within decades I might add) and then half a millennium they start realizing how screwed up they are and they go right back to blaming the Church.

It’s like watching the “Prodigal Son” with an “alternate ending.”


31 posted on 07/22/2008 1:46:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; Mad Dawg; Mrs. Don-o

PING for your amusement.

What a pity the Inquisition doesn’t burn heretics at the stake anymore.


32 posted on 07/22/2008 1:47:07 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Petronski

You said: Did you know that rabies is a form of encephalitis that causes anxiety, irrational fear, foaming at the mouth and later, hallucinations and wild agitations?

Is that a sacrament in protestant exegesis? They seem to partake rather enthusiastically.


33 posted on 07/22/2008 1:47:22 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: ladtx
Just exactly when did we fall into apostasy?
Sometime during the 1st Century.
34 posted on 07/22/2008 1:47:23 PM PDT by eastsider
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Wow... I wasn't expacting that...

35 posted on 07/22/2008 1:51:06 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: marshmallow

And while we’re at it, let’s all go to the Jack Chick website and read how the Roman Catholic Church was responsible for the rise of Muhammad and the spread of Islam!

(Among Catholic-haters, I’ve known some real hayseeds.)


36 posted on 07/22/2008 1:51:56 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: eastsider
Sometime during the 1st Century.

Do you suppose it has something to do with the "keys of the kingdom"?

38 posted on 07/22/2008 1:55:45 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: sandyeggo

The chances of that being read and understood by those who have partaken in the sacrament of rabies is around nil to nonexistent.


39 posted on 07/22/2008 1:57:30 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: elcid1970

Usually it springs from pure ignorance and some buried (or not)psychological anger. The original poster, Dwag, has spread a lot of the same type of puppy poop here on FreeRepublic, from what I’ve been able to see so far.


41 posted on 07/22/2008 2:03:26 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: elcid1970

By the way elcid is a GREAT name. ;-)


42 posted on 07/22/2008 2:07:10 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: big'ol_freeper; sandyeggo

Big’Ol freeper....I very much appreciate and will read and study the article that Sanyeggo posted...I am not a Catholic....but for some time, I have been considering studying to become a Catholic, so any conversion stories, are of importance to me....I also read the conversion stories, of Catholics, who leave the Catholic church...I read what they say, try to understand, compare the various different stories....I am seeking to inform myself, so articles such as these, provide a wealth of information...

Both types of these articles are very important to me, and who knows how many others, who may be merely lurking....so I am sure I am not the only one grateful for Sandyeggo’s post....

Through witnesses such as these, God may work to lead some of us, in paths we never expected...


43 posted on 07/22/2008 2:08:01 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Petronski
***Did you know that rabies is a form of encephalitis that causes anxiety, irrational fear, foaming at the mouth and later, hallucinations and wild agitations?***

Wow! I thought I just had epilepsy! I need to find a dog to bite!

44 posted on 07/22/2008 2:09:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"Confess your faults one to another."

Don't you mean "to a priest"?

Oh, wait.

45 posted on 07/22/2008 2:10:19 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

I once chatted with Ken Silva after he was attacked by someone who thought he was soft on Catholics. You read that correctly. There are Protestants out there so filled with hatred that they think Ken Silva is not nasty enough against Catholics. We had a nice chat, accomplished nothing, but I learned just how sick the whole anti-Catholic cause is (if I didn’t know it already).


46 posted on 07/22/2008 2:10:20 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"What a pity the Inquisition doesn’t burn heretics at the stake anymore."

You show your true colors, but it's the Protestants who get called "rabid," etc.

47 posted on 07/22/2008 2:11:03 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: eastsider

Thanks for admitting we were there in the 1st century. So much for that nonsense about being founded by Constantine.


48 posted on 07/22/2008 2:11:16 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: andysandmikesmom; sandyeggo

Well there you have it! May the Holy Spirit guide you on your journey home.

I was not referring to the average Christian who maintains a heart of decency and charity. I was referring to those who seem to be rabid in their hatred of the Catholic Church. They, hopefully, are few, but it is they who I meant would never read what was posted because they are too attached to their bigotry and hatred.


49 posted on 07/22/2008 2:12:59 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: All; apostate; Manfred the Wonder Dawg

What “IS” a christian?..


50 posted on 07/22/2008 2:14:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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