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NAR Apostle Robert Ricciardelli: Todd Bentley Deliberately Lied That Lord Spoke to fulfil Own Agenda
EndTimesPropheticWords ^ | July 24, 2008 | M. Franklin

Posted on 07/28/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by IreneE

Further to the recent revelations from one of C Peter Wagner’s apostles Robert Ricciardelli about Todd Bentley and the Lakeland deception, here is some more information from Ricciardelli’s latest posts on the Charisma Magazine forum here.

(Please note that I in no way endorse Ricciardelli, his beliefs, or the movement he is attached to. However I attach this for information purposes as he has interesting insider information, that confirms what we already know - that Todd lies and falsely speaks for God and manipulates for money.)

“If you are going to lie or stretch truth like Todd does on a world stage, you can bet people like me who he is representing are going to speak up. Here is one of the errors.

In early June, I think on the 6th Todd gave an offering message that was manipulation and borderline witchcraft. He said the Lord told Him that there were 1000 people who were going to give $1000 and if they were obedient, the Lord said they would receive 1000 fold return. I am in almost daily conversation with Stephen Strader, and challenged him that it was not from God. He agreed and talked to Todd.

Todd admitted that he worded it wrong, but that it was an idea he had to raise money for the 30,000 seat revival center they want to build.

I then asked if he would repent publicly and they said:

"No, because the crowd changes every night.”

TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: falseprophet; lakeland; revival; toddbentley
Robert Ricciardelli is showing some cajones in the Spirit to stand up to the NAR Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain/Toronto Blessing/Lakeland Revival false prophets by coming out with his doubts and concerns about the movement and specifically, Todd Bentley.

Personally, I think Todd is deceived and he is just the current circus barker for a more deceptive and delusional non Christian movement.

Someone said along the line that in the end, these so called Christians will be pushing for laws and legislative morality -- which on the face of it is a good thing -- but that Christ requires evangelism, loving laying on of hands, carrying the Word to the Lost (not signs and wonders for entertainment or "proof" that Christ is who He says He is.)

Robert Ricciardelli is uncomfortable with the things he is seeing backstage at the Bentley blitzkrieg. I cannot imagine how difficult this must be for an New Apostolic Reformation "Apostle" to wake up and realize you are part of the End Time Delusion, the delusion God promises He will send on those who "no longer love the Truth" and to those who "do not tremble at His Word".

In these End Times, it is very very necessary that we show ourselves approved and "test all things" especially testing and discerning the Spirits. The way you do that, btw, is by testing doctrine and what is actually being taught. People flocking after Todd Bentley shows a precarious lack of discernment, something that we are required to do before a Holy God.

1 posted on 07/28/2008 12:58:58 PM PDT by IreneE
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To: IreneE

I’ve had my doubts about Bentley and this only confirms it.

2 posted on 07/28/2008 1:09:17 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: IreneE

There are pastors who will “repent” of things that they’ve said, bring it up later after they’ve thought about it, and discuss it from the pulpit. I said “x”: upon reflection I think I went further than I ought to have; I should better have said it like “this”.

I have respect for men like that. I don’t expect perfection from any human and when you’re speaking in public, pumped full of adrenaline its easy to say something that later you’ll wish you hadn’t said. So admit it. It won’t decrease your credibility or influence, if anything it will increase it.

3 posted on 07/28/2008 1:16:02 PM PDT by marron
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To: IreneE

Robert Ricciardelli must be waking up by means of the Holy Spirit’s promptings. Christians make mistakes, even ones that Christ has shown a more active spiritual presence(tongues,ect).

Satan appears as an angel of light, even to the point of “deceiving the elect were it possible”. In the end all of God’s true work involves Jeusus Christ who is seeking the lost to bring them into the kingdom...anything that detracts from that (and from the very person of Jesus Christ who is seeking to build his image into all of us) is suspect!

4 posted on 07/28/2008 1:22:55 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: marron
Yes. I know the Pastors that i have respected the most are the ones most humble enough to admit that they may have been wrong and then... done something about it.

But it is scary when in charismatic circles, because if you are wrong in a false prophecy, there is more than normal repenting to do. This is the muck and mire of this entire movement and why they have concocted doctrines that “prophecy is on a learning curve” and it is the “fault of the hearer of the prophecy” if it is proved false! Very sick system, this NAR.

5 posted on 07/28/2008 1:25:01 PM PDT by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: IreneE

End time prophesy just hasn’t been the same since Herbert W. Armstrong. =)

6 posted on 07/28/2008 1:27:35 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: mgstarr

OMG, that is so funny.

What is even funnier is that the Lakeland revival came to Che Ahn’s church in LA — who bought Armstongs auditorium and campus. I may post something on Ahn later.

Thanks for making me laugh! FReeper Xian oneliners rule.

7 posted on 07/28/2008 1:33:21 PM PDT by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: IreneE
I was at first enthused when I heard the sketchy and superficial reports of a great revival going on in Lakeland Florida, but I've spent some time reading up on Todd Bentley, I have watched numerous video clips of his performance and behavior at these so-called revivals, and I feel more than comfortable in stating (as a Bible-believing, God-fearing, Jesus-loving American) that Todd Bentley is NOT filled with the Holy Spirit, he is NOT any prophet of God, he is a liar and a fraud and brings the Name of Jesus Christ into disrepute.

And I stand by that.
8 posted on 07/28/2008 2:38:25 PM PDT by mkjessup
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