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Victoria Osteen defended as "excitable and expressive"
Dallas Morning News ^ | Aug 07, 2008 | Rodger Jones

Posted on 08/08/2008 5:38:15 AM PDT by Gamecock

That's the explanation her attorney made in court today about how she got crosswise with a flight attendant in an onboard dustup about a stain on her first-class seat.

It's bound to be far better theater than any Joel Osteen preachfest in his Lakewood Church. The aggrieved flight attendant wants a mere 10 percent of the high-octane church lady's net worth. If she wins, that'll have flight attendants all over the skies picking fights with cranky first-class celebs.

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1 posted on 08/08/2008 5:38:17 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
From an article in the Houston Chronicle, linked in the above:

Maria Johnson, another flight attendant on the plane, spent nearly all of her three hours on the witness stand describing how Victoria Osteen demanded special attention to clean up a small spill. When she didn't get her way, Victoria Osteen became verbally and physically abusive to both flight attendants, eventually grabbing Brown by the shoulders and pushing her out of the way in an attempt to get into the cockpit, Johnson testified.

But just before her testimony concluded, Johnson suggested race might have played a part in the incident because of remarks Victoria Osteen made about only wanting to deal with Johnson, who is white, and not with either Brown or a third flight attendant on the plane, who are black.


2 posted on 08/08/2008 5:41:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Gamecock
Too bad Warren isn't around to write part two to his song.


3 posted on 08/08/2008 5:43:29 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock

Well, isn’t that special?


4 posted on 08/08/2008 5:45:07 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; ...
YBPDLNPL Ping


"excitable and expressive"

5 posted on 08/08/2008 5:45:29 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: P8riot; Larry Lucido
Hasn't she suffered enough?


6 posted on 08/08/2008 5:48:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Gamecock
Maybe it was, SATAN!?


7 posted on 08/08/2008 5:52:16 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Gamecock

Victoria Osteen: Lakewood Church’s Michelle Obama


8 posted on 08/08/2008 5:54:10 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Gamecock

Commercial flight to Vail- how pedestrian!


9 posted on 08/08/2008 5:55:51 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Gamecock

It would appear that Mrs. Brown and Mrs. Osteen both have “control” issues. In addition, Mrs. Brown also appears to have race issues.


10 posted on 08/08/2008 6:37:35 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Gamecock

You’d think that would be a a detriment to her husband’s “church” but I’m pretty sure attendance will stay up and the contributions to her husband’s “church” will remain steady, if not increase. *SIGH*


11 posted on 08/08/2008 6:43:17 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

See my #6.


12 posted on 08/08/2008 6:44:36 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: contemplator
I avoid travel airline travel as much as possible.

You are their virtual prisoner and they can treat you as they please.
Or not please.

Having sat on a tarmac once for 6 hours I can tell you the crew was lucky that there wasn't a mutiny. Their indifference/arrogance was mind boggling.

13 posted on 08/08/2008 7:07:29 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: P8riot

Isn’t that special.


14 posted on 08/08/2008 7:18:31 AM PDT by pby
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To: P8riot; All

Ha ha ha.

And lack of common sense to come up with a idea like hey lets deal with the Stain by covering it with a blanket or some other material.


16 posted on 08/08/2008 7:49:24 AM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: Gamecock
It's bound to be far better theater than any Joel Osteen preachfest in his Lakewood Church.

It would be even better entertainment to put 'em in a boxing ring and let 'em duke it out. Nothing like a good cat fight. And sell tickets to cover the expenses.

17 posted on 08/08/2008 9:00:07 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: Gamecock

It looks like her head is on backwards.


18 posted on 08/08/2008 11:25:08 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You know something? It does!


19 posted on 08/08/2008 11:25:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Larry Lucido

Warren Zevon

I love his work.

Warewolves in London.

Olstens *blech*


20 posted on 08/08/2008 11:28:48 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Gamecock
Victoria Osteen defended as "excitable and expressive"

Gee, ya think???

Joel's expressions are fairly consistent and natural-looking (well, except for that smile), regardless of who's doing the photographing. About half of Victoria's photos have something weird going on with her eyes being too wide open, or her eyebrows being too arched, or her mouth twisted, or something. Her facial expressions are all over the map, at least when she's in front of the camera. Who does she think she is, Kathie Lee Gifford?

Case in point: Here's a couple of pics of her.





And I'm pretty sure this last one's been doctored, but I can't find another version that isn't:


21 posted on 08/10/2008 10:56:26 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Gamecock
I do not discern the chesed ( lovingkindness ) of Yah'shua in either Joel or Victoria Osteen.

22 posted on 08/10/2008 11:05:47 AM PDT by XeniaSt (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Girlfriend needs her brows reshaped and not drawn (penciled or powdered in) so darkly.


23 posted on 08/10/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
It looks to me as though her natural hair colour is brown, so she's bleaching it, but then he's got a mullet, so it's a tossup.

They're pretty well matched.

24 posted on 08/10/2008 11:23:39 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Vickie is rocking the Kathie Lee look, circa 1990...Joel needs to lose the mullet as well.

We are doing our Stacie and Clinton here...


25 posted on 08/10/2008 12:08:25 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: contemplator
It would appear that Mrs. Brown and Mrs. Osteen both have “control” issues

lol...a universal feline quality in my experience...just look at how this forum cliques up..

26 posted on 08/10/2008 12:12:35 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Dr. Ursus
Commercial flight to Vail- how pedestrian!

indeed...Vail is actually pedestrian...the smart class do Sun Valley

or better yet, Portillo or Queenstown or Riksgransen in summer

27 posted on 08/10/2008 12:22:02 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Gamecock

they’ve always struck me as charlatans...


28 posted on 08/10/2008 12:22:48 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: wardaddy; PennsylvaniaMom
I don't know Victoria and certainly don't pretend to know what really happened, but I will never be convinced that ANYTHING done to Ms. Brown by Ms. Osteen, caused Ms. Brown to have hemorrhoids!

This is obviously about $$$ and should have never gone to court. Frivolous lawsuit!!!

29 posted on 08/10/2008 12:28:40 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: wardaddy

I’d go with your gut on this one....


30 posted on 08/10/2008 12:37:00 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: lonestar
I don't think this is a “frivolous lawsuit”. I think what this is is another typical example of a televangelist (or their spouse) believing that they are above the law and civility.

Mrs Osteen is a snot.

31 posted on 08/10/2008 12:39:07 PM PDT by Artemis Webb ( OBAMA/HUCKABEE '08)
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To: Artemis Webb
You think the other person Brown sued for something similar to this charge was also "a snot?"

This is not the first time Brown has sued for Not-a-lot.

Who knows when she got hemmrhoids --but they aren't caused by being pushed around on an airplane.

Brown is always "offended" but my guess is she spends a lot of time being offensive!

32 posted on 08/10/2008 12:48:18 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: lonestar

Sorry but the question is not about Brown. The question is did Mrs Osteen shove her.

Oh...and to head off the accusation that I hate televangelist and their wives... I do.


33 posted on 08/10/2008 12:56:37 PM PDT by Artemis Webb ( OBAMA/HUCKABEE '08)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
We are doing our Stacie and Clinton here...

********************

And we are doing it well! Stacie and Clinton are not alone in their ability to help the fashion-impaired. :)

36 posted on 08/10/2008 2:28:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gamecock

Victoria is a joke. But then, so is her husband.


37 posted on 08/10/2008 7:41:36 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: lonestar

Exactly. She saw an opportunity to make some bucks and she took it.


38 posted on 08/10/2008 8:04:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Terriergal
Victoria is a joke.

What exactly do you know about her?

39 posted on 08/10/2008 10:09:10 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Alex Murphy; Terriergal; nikos1121
Latest Photo: Not excited, but certainly expressive:

There, that's better:


40 posted on 08/11/2008 4:55:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Artemis Webb

The question is whether Ms. Osteen’s actions caused Brown to have hemmhroids....that is Brown’s claim!


41 posted on 08/11/2008 11:39:58 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: lonestar

She’s guilty of that too.

The fact of the matter is I would trust and have more faith in the goodwill of your average guy in a federal prison than your typical televangelist or televangelist wife.

“Come on granny...God won’t love you if you don’t send me your social security check!”


42 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:01 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ( OBAMA/HUCKABEE '08)
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To: Gamecock

Electric Light Orchestra
Evil Woman lyrics

You made a fool of me, but them broken dreams have got to end.

Hey woman, you got the blues, cos you aint got no one else to use.
There’s an open road that leads nowhere, so just make some miles
Between here and there.
There’s a hole in my head where the rain comes in,
You took my body and played to win,
Ha ha woman it’s a crying shame,
But you aint got nobody else to blame.

[Chorus:]
E-evil woman, e-evil woman, e-evil woman, evil woman

Rolled in from another town,
Hit some gold too hot to settle down,
But a fool and his money soon go separate ways,
And you found a fool lyin in a daze,
Ha ha woman what you gonna do,
You destroyed all the virtues that the lord gave you,
It’s so good that you’re feeling pain,
But you better get your face on board the very next train.

[Chorus: Repeat]

Evil woman how you done me wrong,
But now you’re tryin to wail a different song,
Ha ha funny how you broke me up, you made the wine now you
Drink the cup,
I came runnin every time you cried,
Thought I saw love smilin in your eyes,
Ha ha very nice to know, that you aint got no place left to go.


43 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:20 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Gov. Granholm=Garbage)
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To: XeniaSt

I do not discern the chesed ( lovingkindness ) of Yah’shua in any poster on this thread.


45 posted on 08/11/2008 12:00:08 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (~~ Visualize whirled peas ~~)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
including you and me ?

46 posted on 08/11/2008 12:25:24 PM PDT by XeniaSt (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Artemis Webb
You seem rather bitter!

This is NOT about televangelists...it's about HEMMRHOIDS!!!!!!!!

47 posted on 08/11/2008 7:07:37 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Gamecock

ping


48 posted on 08/14/2008 9:48:54 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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