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Revealed:the modern Catholic [majority ignore ban on artificial contraception] [Ecumenic Thread]
Times Online UK ^ | August 15, 2008

Posted on 08/15/2008 10:50:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Background briefing:


In 1968, Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae, a teaching document for Catholics subtitled "on the regulation of birth". This re-affirmed the traditional ban of the Roman Catholic Church on the use of artificial contraception within marriage. It caused shock waves in the Catholic world and beyond. Calls for the Church to re-examine its stance on birth control with the arrival of the pill in the ealry 1960s had led a previous Pope to set up a 72-member commission to re-evaluate the Church's ban on artificial contraceptives. Early reports from the commission suggested the ban would be liberalised and that the use of contraceptives by married couples was not "intriniscally" evil. Public outcry was therefore widespread when the document was eventually published and the ban re-affirmed.. Forty years later, Faith Online re-examines the issue for the modern Catholic.

Most Catholics are using condoms, the contraceptive pill and other forms of artificial contraception and ignoring official Church teaching.

A survey conducted for The Tablet found that two-thirds favoured condoms, more than half the contraceptive pill and almost a quarter the morning-after pill.

The study was prepared by the Von Hügel Institute based at St Edmund’s College, Cambridge, and published to coincide with the fortieth anniversary of Paul VI’s encyclical, Humanae Vitae, which banned the use of artificial birth control. The Institute questioned 1,500 Catholics from parishes across England and Wales about their views on sex, marriage, family life and their faith.

Use of condoms or the willingness to use them was highest among those aged 18 to 35, at over 82 per cent. It was also this age group that responded most positively to the contraceptive pill, with almost 68 per cent indicating that they had either used it or would not mind using

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: flawedmethodology; moderncinos; moralrelativism

1 posted on 08/15/2008 10:50:49 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
In other news, Christians of all communions throughout the world ignore Biblical prohibition on sinning.
2 posted on 08/15/2008 10:53:55 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

LOL!


3 posted on 08/15/2008 10:56:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alex Murphy

If the Catholic Church considers abortion a sin, shouldn’t it support contraception?


4 posted on 08/15/2008 11:05:25 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I think you are supposed to have 1 child (minimum) for each sexual act you have in your life.


5 posted on 08/15/2008 11:08:09 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Alex Murphy

There are times and places where the Catholic Church doesn’t get it and this is one of them.


6 posted on 08/15/2008 11:14:45 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: reaganaut1

I suggest you read Humanae Vitae and its argument against contraception. Among the things predicted by the pope is the general acceptance of abortion as a means of contraception. For if the end is to avoid bringing a child into the world, people use whatever means are available.


7 posted on 08/15/2008 12:01:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: reaganaut1

I suggest you read Humanae Vitae and its argument against contraception. Among the things predicted by the pope is the general acceptance of abortion as a means of contraception. For if the end is to avoid bringing a child into the world, people use whatever means are available.


8 posted on 08/15/2008 12:01:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: reaganaut1

I suggest you read Humanae Vitae and its argument against contraception. Among the things predicted by the pope is the general acceptance of abortion as a means of contraception. For if the end is to avoid bringing a child into the world, people use whatever means are available.


9 posted on 08/15/2008 12:01:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: misterrob

Actually if you read the reasoning behind the stance on contraception it is sadly those who are contracepting that don’t get it.

The logic, and flow from natural law in Humana Vitae so strongly reinforces the Holy Spirits protection of Papal infallability to me that it almost brings tears to my eyes.


10 posted on 08/15/2008 12:07:50 PM PDT by CTK YKC
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To: reaganaut1

Several forms of contraception are abortifactant in nature. Those that are not still, by taking the possibility of procreation out of the equation, render a spiritual act a carnal act.


11 posted on 08/15/2008 12:09:29 PM PDT by CTK YKC
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To: Alex Murphy

Jesus lost large numbers of followers by his teaching on the Eucharist. If I understand correctly, a majority of bishops sided with the heretic Arius regarding the natures of Jesus. Fortunately (for us) Christianity isn’t a democratic exercise. We have the Bible and the Spirit-guided Magisterium to guide us.


12 posted on 08/15/2008 2:17:13 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Alex Murphy

Very regrettable and certainly due to a lack of faith, and even worse, some apathy and acquiescence on the part of our clergy

Yet there have always been these issues. A high divorce rate among all Christians of various stripes despite what the Bible says, taking our Lord’s name in vain.

The last thing we do is change the natural law to suit the selfishness of man. Did not all Christian denominations reject artificial contraception until the Anglicans broke ranks in 1930?


13 posted on 08/15/2008 3:51:17 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: wideawake

You guys always beat me to it. It isn’t the people who sanctify the Catholic Church, it is God.


14 posted on 08/15/2008 4:06:20 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: RobbyS

Could you suggest that again? :-D


15 posted on 08/15/2008 4:07:42 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Alex Murphy

It should be remember that a lot of “Catholics” are cultural catholics only. It is a sad state of affairs but you can park your ass in a pew every Sunday and still not get what it means to be Catholic.


16 posted on 08/15/2008 7:17:30 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

Back in the ‘50s and ‘60s, there were priests who were telling their penitents that the Church was about to change its doctrine on birth control. When the pope refused to go along, many priests—and bishops—basically rebelled against Rome and refused to defend the encyclical. Sort of like those clergy who ignored a much earlier pope’s condemnation of black slavery.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 9:18:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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18 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:10 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

That’s a good one.


19 posted on 08/16/2008 5:36:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RobbyS

What truly amazes me is jut how right Pope Paul VI was in writing Humane Vitae. He foresaw the consequences of the pill so clearly that one just knows The Holy Spirit had opened his eyes.


20 posted on 08/16/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

Many priests had come to accept the specious arguments of Planned Parenthood. so that many were getting coozy with the organization. Freely available contraceptives would negate the need for abortion? But human nature will no more accept the totalitarianism than underlying Sanger’s socialism than it will Christian morality. The discipline of birth control is as unacceptable as other restraints. The availability of the pill makes the woman take far more risks than she otherwise would, resulting inevitably in an abortion.


21 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:39 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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