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To: NYer
Hey NYer...I am a Noahide, so I believe in the concept of two eyewitnesses before allowing the death penalty. As a former Catholic, I was taught the death penalty was wrong...(I had to go look it up for a reference)but it was from the Catechism...has this changed??...magritte

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, nonlethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.


23 posted on 08/19/2008 6:51:49 PM PDT by magritte (If a problem comes along, you must whip it.)
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To: magritte
By so saying, you are willing to consign prison guards, workers, fellow prisoners, and even visitors to the risk of death.

Prison is no guarantee for their safety. And then there is always the possibility of escape. The worst mass murder in GA history was committed by 3 prison escapees from North Carolina. Google "Carl Isaacs". He almost escaped several times after he was apprehended, both from jail and from prison. IIRC he was almost outside the grounds of Reidsville when they caught him in a garbage truck in a homemade uniform. He cheerfully told several reporters he would kill again if he got the chance, and he was trying hard for it.

There remain those for whom a death sentence is the only possibility. And the Church recognizes this.

24 posted on 08/20/2008 5:02:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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