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Woman without hands or legs discovers ‘true joy’ after converting to Catholicism
CNA ^ | August 20, 2008

Posted on 08/21/2008 7:49:14 AM PDT by NYer

Lucia Otgongerel (Photo credit: UCANews)

Ulan Bator, Aug 20, 2008 / 09:03 pm (CNA).- Lucia Otgongerel was born in Mongolia 30 years ago without hands or legs.  She lived in a deep depression until 2002 when she converted to Catholicism and, as she explains, discovered “true joy.”  Today she works in the capital city of Mongolia, Ulan Bator, as a teacher for seven children with special needs.

Now Lucia claims, “I could not live without my faith.”  She overcomes the challenges of her physical condition though an intense life of prayer: including the daily Rosary, meditations and study of the Bible in the midst of her predominately Buddhist country.

In an interview granted to UCANews, Lucia explains that her daily work with seven disabled boys whose ages range from 15-19.  Lucia teachers, despite not having hands: cooking, cleaning, reading and writing at the Faith Center, a small school run by St. Mary’s parish in Ulan Bator which opened last September.

The sixth of eight children, Lucia Otgongerel was born in the Zavhan, a remote province in the Asian country of Mongolia.  She had a very difficult childhood that started to improve when she began using her first prosthetic leg.  Because of it, she was able to attend cooking classes at a very young age which has greatly increased her cooking skills.

“Even without hands, there is nothing I can’t do.  I can open doors with keys, sew, work on the computer, use the cell phone, cut up food, cook – nothing is impossible!  I like embroidery and beads.  People are surprised when they see my parents’ house, decorated all over with my needlework,” she says.

She recalls that in 2001 she began going to Mass because her sister was the friend of the bishop’s secretary.  While she was interested in the celebration, she did not have much faith.  She explains that she enjoyed the songs sung in English and the words continued to ring in her ears, though she did not understand the lyrics.

Faith in Christ began the following year and after praying the Rosary intensely, but with great difficulty at home.  She realized the importance of prayer and decided to convert to Catholicism.

“Since then, I pray a lot, every day, all the time.  I pray a lot and cry.  When young people in the church see me like that, they just leave me alone, and when I come out of the church laughing, they know I was praying.”

“It would be hard for me without prayer.  I pray every morning before I leave home….Later in the day, I also read the daily readings and meditate.  I try to implement the message of each day’s readings.  It gives me much power.”

“Prayer is an important part of my life.  I am alone a lot, so I pray all the time.  I make time to read the Bible.  I am also writing a book about the church in Nisekh and about faith.”

“My faith is very important to me.  I could not live without my faith.”

Lucia also explained how she was often depressed and felt incapable of doing things.  “I was a very different person before being Catholic.”  After her conversion, she recalls, “I wanted to tell many people about my faith, so I started with my family.  Several people followed me.  My niece is now baptized.  My younger brother, my older brother’s children and my two friends come to church too.”  

“People seeing me somehow get interested in God and the Church.  Our church in Nisekh is like a family.  I have been teaching catechism there to seven adults, five women and two men.”

When discussing her work, Lucia credits a Polish volunteer, Violetta, for showing her “how to teach challenged children.  She taught me very intensively for two months, and then I read many books about how to teach special children.  But mostly I learned from the children themselves.”

She also noted that “most of my time is taken up by this school.  This work is very beautiful.  The children are not ordinary, so we can’t have many in one room.  I now have seven students and feel I’ll soon need a helper.  They obey me very well, but at first they did not know I was their teacher.” 

“During this first year I learned how to work with each student.”

For Lucia, challenges never end because of her physical condition.  She suffers from kidney problems because her legs “do not bend at the knees.  The doctors say the way I move while walking is too stressful for my kidneys.”

Lucia also plans to bring her elderly parents to Ulan Bator.  “I have not seen them for three years.  I have to save up 115,000 tugrug (about $100) to travel there.  I need to see them, and decide if I must bring them soon, or whether it can wait a little.”

She plans to save from her monthly paycheck, which totals $150 per month.

“I want to take care of my parents and my sister who first took me to church.”

“My parents are very happy about me because I’m very successful.  All my life, they worried a lot about me.  Parents worry about their children even if they have hands and legs, but they worried even more about me because I was born without them.”

The original interview can be found at UCANews: http://www.ucanews.com/2008/08/13/i-could-not-live-without-my-faith/

Source: http://www.ucanews.com


TOPICS: Catholic; Eastern Religions; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: buddhism; catholicism; christianity; mongolia
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1 posted on 08/21/2008 7:49:18 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

We take so much for granted in our lives! Thank you, Lord, for the gift of faith.


2 posted on 08/21/2008 7:50:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

May the Good Lord continue to bless her!


3 posted on 08/21/2008 7:52:21 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: NYer
Woman without hands or legs discovers ‘true joy’ after converting to Catholicism

Wouldn't the joy have been just as true if she had become Presbyterian?

4 posted on 08/21/2008 7:54:33 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: NYer

What a wonderful human being. Thanks for posting her story.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 8:00:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: NYer

bookmark


6 posted on 08/21/2008 8:07:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: tbpiper

Maybe, what’s your point?


7 posted on 08/21/2008 8:09:48 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: NYer

I was going to complain about this bunion but I think I’ll just take an Advil instead.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 8:12:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: IrishCatholic

I think the issue is that the article didn’t say she converted to Christianity which is what happened.


9 posted on 08/21/2008 8:15:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: IrishCatholic
after converting to Catholicism

Should read 'after converting to Christianity'.

One can find happiness, acceptance, fellowship, etc. by joining any church (Catholic or Presbyterian), but 'true joy' come only from Christ.

10 posted on 08/21/2008 8:18:29 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: AppyPappy

“She realized the importance of prayer and decided to convert to Catholicism.”

I got the above quote from the article. Itg is very clear she converted to Christianity.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 8:18:29 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: Radl

It’s just a weird title. Protestants don’t say people were converted to Protestantism.


12 posted on 08/21/2008 8:22:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: tbpiper
Not if the Catholic Church is the one true Church that Christ founded.

- A8

13 posted on 08/21/2008 8:29:46 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("I believe and profess all that the Holy Catholic Church ... proclaims to be revealed by God.")
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To: AppyPappy

The article was written by a Catholic news agency but I would understand your point if it was coming from a secular source.


14 posted on 08/21/2008 8:32:23 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: NYer

Despite her many difficulties, she tries to be a blessing to every one. What a beautiful spirit she has.


15 posted on 08/21/2008 8:45:49 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (The best way to calm the delusions of grandeur in the energy cartel is to stop needing their energy)
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To: adiaireton8

So, you’re saying that the joy that Presbyterians (for the sake of argument) know is false?


16 posted on 08/21/2008 8:49:16 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: Radl

niggle niggle


17 posted on 08/21/2008 8:50:21 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Radl

niggle niggle


18 posted on 08/21/2008 8:50:28 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

Your right.


19 posted on 08/21/2008 9:30:44 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: AppyPappy

You wrote:

“It’s just a weird title. Protestants don’t say people were converted to Protestantism.”

No, but I’ve noticed that many Protestants claim Catholics find Christianity when they become Protestants. Strange for a 16th century sect to assume it is THE Christianity when it is just what it is.


20 posted on 08/21/2008 9:34:05 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: tbpiper

You wrote:

“So, you’re saying that the joy that Presbyterians (for the sake of argument) know is false?”

John Calvin, John Knox and the Puritans never stuck me as joyful.


21 posted on 08/21/2008 9:35:38 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
....."John Calvin, John Knox and the Puritans never stuck me as joyful."......

Yeah, they missed all the fun putting people in the Rack and Iron maidens. Pulling off unneeded limbs for the Inquisition was a hoot.

22 posted on 08/21/2008 9:51:03 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: vladimir998
John Calvin, John Knox and the Puritans never stuck me as joyful.

That's not the point. If the young lady in the original story had found 'true joy' would it realy be 'true joy' if he Christian conversion had landed her in a non-Catholic church?

23 posted on 08/21/2008 9:57:01 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: AppyPappy; Radl
It’s just a weird title. Protestants don’t say people were converted to Protestantism.

The news article is from a Catholic source. The words "converted to Catholicism" is very specific vs "converted to Protestantism" which encompasses 30,000+ denominations. Had this story appeared in a non-Catholic news article, I imagine they would have used the words: 'Woman without hands or legs discovers true joy after receiving Jesus into her heart'.

24 posted on 08/21/2008 10:07:06 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: chuckles

You wrote:

“Yeah, they missed all the fun putting people in the Rack and Iron maidens. Pulling off unneeded limbs for the Inquisition was a hoot.”

As historians know, the Inquisition never used the rack or iron maidens. No limbs were ever pulled off either. All of those types of torture are forms of maiming and were prohibited to the inquisition and the inquisition never tried to acquire those forms of torture.

About this, see Edward Peters, Inquisition. He knows what he talking about. He also wrote a book called Torture. He was the lead medieval historian at the University of Pennsylvania and he was also the lbrarian for the Henry Charles Lea library (on the inquisition).

John Calvin, on the other hand, practically cheered on Servetus’ burning and John Knox called for the assassination of Queen Mary. Nice bunch that.


25 posted on 08/21/2008 10:11:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: tbpiper

You wrote:

“That’s not the point. If the young lady in the original story had found ‘true joy’ would it realy be ‘true joy’ if he Christian conversion had landed her in a non-Catholic church?”

I don’t know. It seems to me that converts from paganism often find more joy in Catholic Christianity than in Protestantism. Not to mention I have seen conversion stories of pagans who became Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons and they always say they found joy too.

It seems to me that Protestants in this thread are doing a lot of complaining about....what exactly? Are they upset she became Catholic and found joy?


26 posted on 08/21/2008 10:15:42 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

“**many** Protestants claim Catholics find Christianity when they become Protestants”

You mispelled “very few”.


27 posted on 08/21/2008 10:18:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: tbpiper
No, not false, incomplete.

- A8

28 posted on 08/21/2008 10:20:40 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("I believe and profess all that the Holy Catholic Church ... proclaims to be revealed by God.")
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To: tbpiper
Wouldn't the joy have been just as true if she had become Presbyterian?

That would probably depend on whether they told her she was ELECT (Yay!) or arbitrarily chosen by god from before creation as a reprobate damned for all eternity (Boo!).

29 posted on 08/21/2008 10:23:13 AM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: AppyPappy

No, I didn’t.


30 posted on 08/21/2008 10:33:18 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: AppyPappy
It’s just a weird title. Protestants don’t say people were converted to Protestantism.

Well, yes they do.... often in the context of said folks having once been in the evil clutches of the Catholic Church. ;-)

Be that as it may, quibbling about this headline reminds me of nothing so much as the Pharisees quibbling with Pilate about the wording of the sign on Jesus' cross.

31 posted on 08/21/2008 10:37:02 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Petronski

LOL!


32 posted on 08/21/2008 10:37:51 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

I rejoice that this woman has been brought into the sheepfold.

I think that if an article was posted titled “Catholic Nun Rescues Orphans From Burning Building” It would be occasion for the usual suspects to spew anti-Catholic hatred. The only headline that would satisfy them would be “Catholic Nun Is Reminded Of Fires Of Hell In Rescue Attempt And Denounces Catholicism To Give Her Life Over To Jesus, Who Has Never Been Anywhere Near Any Catholic Church, So There”


33 posted on 08/21/2008 10:57:43 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer

Spoken like a true Maronite!


34 posted on 08/21/2008 11:09:53 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: vladimir998
Are they upset she became Catholic and found joy?

I don't know who's complaining. It's just that the story title sounded a bit odd. It seems to me the emphasis should be on converting to Christianity, peoiod.

35 posted on 08/21/2008 11:11:08 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: tbpiper

you wrote:

“I don’t know who’s complaining. It’s just that the story title sounded a bit odd. It seems to me the emphasis should be on converting to Christianity, peoiod.”

It is - Catholic Christianity. Period.

Do you get just as upset about the name of this organization:

http://mtc.org/

How about this one:

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/

How about this one:

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/hisbio.html

And this one:

http://www.cwrc-rz.org/

Or this one:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/2594/

Or this one:

http://www.gnfc.org/

Or this one:

http://www.reachingcatholics.org/index.html

Are you beginning to see a pattern?


36 posted on 08/21/2008 11:21:54 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: lastchance

ROFL!!


37 posted on 08/21/2008 11:26:51 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
Do you get just as upset....

I have yet to be 'upset' about any of this. I just thought the story title sounded a bit odd.

Also, today is not my day for patterns.

38 posted on 08/21/2008 11:36:32 AM PDT by tbpiper (McCain is whitebread. Obama is toast.)
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To: vladimir998
It seems to me that converts from paganism often find more joy in Catholic Christianity than in Protestantism.

What line of work are you in that you have encountered a large enough sample of pagans converting to either Catholicism / Protestantism and that your continued contact with them post conversion qualifies you to judge the amount of joy the converts find in each?

Does one's self report of joy in their decision yield such quantifiable results?

39 posted on 08/21/2008 11:43:30 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

You wrote:

“What line of work are you in that you have encountered a large enough sample of pagans converting to either Catholicism / Protestantism and that your continued contact with them post conversion qualifies you to judge the amount of joy the converts find in each?”

My line of work was not my reference point nor did it have to be.

“Does one’s self report of joy in their decision yield such quantifiable results?”

No, nor does it have to since I made no claim whatsoever to anything quantifiable.


40 posted on 08/21/2008 11:54:53 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

“I pray a lot and cry.”

The “baptism of tears”; +Symeon the New Theologian called it one of the greatest blessings.

Wonderful article. Thanks.


41 posted on 08/21/2008 12:33:19 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: vladimir998
since I made no claim whatsoever to anything quantifiable.

Really? My mistake I guess. What then did you mean by "It seems to me that converts from paganism often find more joy in Catholic Christianity than in Protestantism", if not a quantity of joy?

When a claim is made that x (joy found by pagans converting to Catholicism) is greater than y (joy found by pagans converting to Protestantism), a claim of something quantifiable has been made. At least here in the English language.

But, in all honesty, I believed your comment to be merely a statement of opinion, not at all something objective. Your response confirmed that. And I have no problem with your opinion, given that I recognize it for what it is.

42 posted on 08/21/2008 12:35:20 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

You wrote:

“What then did you mean by “It seems to me that converts from paganism often find more joy in Catholic Christianity than in Protestantism”, if not a quantity of joy?”

I meant what I wrote, and it is not quantifiable.

“When a claim is made that x (joy found by pagans converting to Catholicism) is greater than y (joy found by pagans converting to Protestantism), a claim of something quantifiable has been made. At least here in the English language.”

No. I said: “It seems to me that converts from paganism often find more joy in Catholic Christianity than in Protestantism.” You have altered what I said by claiming that I said the joy was found by pagans converting to Catholicism or to Protestantism. I said “in”, not “to”. The joy is not what they experience within themselves as only related to a personal experience within themselves, but what they discover IN the Catholic faith itself. And that cannot be quantified specifically. It can only be said to be more.

“But, in all honesty, I believed your comment to be merely a statement of opinion, not at all something objective.”

I did say “seems”.

“Your response confirmed that. And I have no problem with your opinion, given that I recognize it for what it is.”

Then, if you have no problem with my opinion, why did you alter the meaning of what I said? You did so when you first wrote: “Does one’s self report of joy in their decision yield such quantifiable results?”


43 posted on 08/21/2008 12:48:46 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Vlad - you used the language of comparison of amounts, not me. I wondered how you arrived at it, and you have answered quite clearly - you simply assert it to be true.

No problem here.


44 posted on 08/21/2008 1:00:08 PM PDT by dmz
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To: lastchance

That is so funny..... so very true.


45 posted on 08/21/2008 1:38:28 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: vladimir998

Do you have a similar list for “outreach” to non-Catholic Christians?


46 posted on 08/21/2008 1:42:29 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Jaded

You wrote:

“Do you have a similar list for “outreach” to non-Catholic Christians?”

There is no such list. Although there are plenty of former Protestants who do apologetics for the Catholic Church, I do not know of a single one who has an organization designed with the same sort of intent, or named in a similar fashion, to the ones I posted. Catholics just don’t seem to act that way.


47 posted on 08/21/2008 5:14:40 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: lastchance

LOL, You ROCK!


48 posted on 08/21/2008 5:21:54 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow-RIP TONY, we love you.)
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To: NYer

What a wonder convert story.


49 posted on 08/21/2008 5:24:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: tbpiper

we have the Eucharist, which IS Christ!


50 posted on 08/21/2008 7:53:31 PM PDT by rogernz
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