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To: chuckles
Hmmmm, Ya mean like Mary, Peter, John, Francis, etc etc? If your Catholic, how can you have it both ways??

(1) Our Lady, St. Peter, St. John, St. Francis and the other saints aren't dead.

(2) There is a difference between asking someone in heaven to pray for you and claiming that someone in heaven is using you as a mouthpiece to communicate with others.

In other words, there is a difference between the Scripturally-approved doctrine of the communion of saints and the Scripturally-condemned practice of necromancy.

38 posted on 08/21/2008 9:52:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Which Scripture approves praying to anyone other than Jesus? Read 1 Tim. 2:5. So your saying Pio is dead? I understand being alive in Christ, but they are still dead to the world. The Bible is explicit that you can't reach them. Reference the rich man trying to cross the gulf to tell his family to repent. Once you pass over, you cannot communicate back here. Praying to Mary is blasphemy and if you get an answer, it's a demon, not Mary. Jesus died for the Glory of being our Mediator. To take that honor from Him is blasphemy! There is NO substitute and NO Scripture to back up the practice. In fact there are numerous verses forbidding talking to the dead. Mary is no different than Pio, or uncle Frank. Why would necromancy be illegal in the Scripture, but OK if it's the "right" person?

You are using some sort of "judgment call" to decide this woman is a heretic, but practice the same daily because you "pray" to an "approved" dead person. This is EXACTLY what Scripture forbids. It's all about Jesus, for Jesus, and no one else but Jesus. We all know Moses made it to heaven and Elijah,(Transfiguration), but do Catholics pray to them? Jesus specifically farbade the Apostles from worshiping them.

41 posted on 08/21/2008 10:43:29 AM PDT by chuckles
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