We are actually stating the same thing, but you believe one way and I believe the other.
>>You see it differently and until some action is taken, we really dont know the answer.<<
“...but you believe one way and I believe the other.”
Actually, I don't believe one way or the other.
It is an unanswered question. Being unanswered, I hold neither position.
And I think that it's appropriate that Catholics should be cautious in advancing the view that these folks are excommunicated latae sententiae. It's been stated as uncontroverted fact on this thread and others. It shouldn't be.
If anyone wishes to say, “My OPINION is that they are excommunicated latae sententiae,” that is within his competence. But it is not within the competence of any lay Catholic to state it as fact. Not without the clear guidance of the competent ecclesial authorities.