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To: NYer

I still don’t see where this, or the other links, calls into question her qualification for the Sacrament of Communion.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 10:41:19 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama's just biden his time until McCain wins in November.)
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To: bcsco
The Speaker only would need to open up her Bible:

For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall show the death of the Lord, until he come. Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

1 Cor. 11: 23-29

12 posted on 08/26/2008 10:45:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: bcsco
I am just a clunky old convert to RC, but it is my understanding that to receive communion one has to be in a state of grace, absolved of any sin that would make one guilty of partaking the blessed sacrament in an unworthy manner.

What Pelosi has done here falls into what we learned in RCIA as the category of the "M" sin, one that places her soul in grave danger of condemnation. It is a category of wrongdoing that is close to the ultimate because it has the potential for leading others astray, thereby placing their souls in mortal peril. As a an elected leader and public official who claims membership in the Church, Pelosi (and others) have a special obligation to not oppose what is a clear and unambigous position of the Church in so public and visible a manner.

She can regain standing to accept communion in a worthy manner by confessing and repenting her sin, which is what the sacrament of confession offers. But until then the leaders of the Church have no choice but to publicly repudiate her false statements so as to make clear to those who might be swayed what the teaching of the Church is on this matter.

65 posted on 08/26/2008 11:55:20 AM PDT by chimera
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To: bcsco

Technically, that is up to her Bishop to tell her. But it’s still nice to see more in the hierarchy speak up. Pro-choice Catholics - and I know many - will be shocked. It’s a pity that such teachings haven’t been made more explicit over the years.


105 posted on 08/26/2008 3:39:02 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: bcsco
Perhaps Cardinal Egan didn't touch the Communion issue out of deference to the bishops/Cardinals in Pelosi’s hometowns of D.C. and San Francisco. In any case, this was a powerful statement by Egan, who generally keeps a very low profile.
111 posted on 08/26/2008 4:20:56 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: bcsco

Pelosi, being a self proclaimed ardent Catholic, knows good and well that, as an unrepentant proponent of infanticide, she is not to be receiving Communion and there is no question about that fact.


130 posted on 08/26/2008 5:41:24 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: bcsco
In addition, she's been called on the carpet before. You apparently haven't been paying attention

Published: February 1, 2007

A priest writes to Nancy Pelosi
“If you can kill a baby in the womb, Nancy, why not outside of it?”

Fr. John Malloy, pastor of Saints Peter and Paul Church in San Francisco, penned this “Open letter to Nancy Pelosi,” which was recently published in the parish bulletin. We reprint it here with Fr. Malloy’s permission.

Nancy, you are fooling yourself and I fear fooling many good Catholics. You are simply not in sync with the Catholic Church. Until you change your non-Catholic positions, you should stop calling yourself Catholic. Your record shows that you support embryonic stem cell research, Planned Parenthood, contraception, family planning funding, allowing minors to have an abortion without parental consent, and are against making it a crime to harm a fetus, etc. etc.

The fact that you favor married priests and women priests certainly would not classify you as conservative, but your answer to the question are you a conservative Catholic was:
“I think so. I was raised in a very strict upbringing in a Catholic home where we respected people, were observant, were practicing Catholics, and that the fundamental belief was that God gave us all a free will, and we were accountable for that, each of us. Each person had that accountability, so it wasn’t for us to make judgments about how people saw their responsibility and that it wasn’t for politicians to make decisions about how people led their personal lives; certainly, to a high moral standards, but when it got into decisions about privacy and all the rest, then that was something that individuals had to answer to God for, and not to politicians.”

That sounds fair and tolerant, but your record belies high moral standards.

The NARAL rates you 100% pro-abortion. Your statement: “To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will. We’re all responsible for our actions. If you don’t want an abortion, you don’t believe in it, [then] don’t have one. But don’t tell somebody else what they can do in terms of honoring their responsibilities. My family is very pro-life. They’re not fanatics and they’re not activists. I think they’d like it if I were not so vocally pro-choice.”

Do we not elect politicians to make laws that help people honor their responsibilities, such as protecting life itself? Can politicians not tell someone else not to kill? If you can kill a baby in the womb, Nancy, why not outside of it? Oh wait, you are in favor of partial birth abortion, so-called because the baby sticks out of the “mother” about halfway, while the “doctor” sucks out the baby's brain. That seems comparable to the choice the Nazis made killing six million Jews.

Yes, Nancy, we (together with your pro-life family) would all like it if you were not so vocally pro-choice, i.e. pro-death. Until your choice is in line with Catholic doctrine, please, Nancy, do not receive the Eucharist when you attend Mass.

Rev. John Malloy, SDB
San Francisco, CA

© California Catholic Daily 2007. All Rights Reserved.

131 posted on 08/26/2008 5:51:27 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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