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400 goats visit Golden Gate Seminary
Baptist Press ^ | Sep 4, 2008 | Phyllis Evans

Posted on 09/05/2008 8:55:36 AM PDT by Gamecock

MILL VALLEY, Calif. (BP)--Four hundred goats descended on the verdant hillsides of Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary in July, cutting the grass as well as the seminary's costs for landscaping staff.

"We save approximately $5,000 in labor and materials by contracting with Goats-R-Us," said Robert Dvorak, the seminary's facilities management director.

Additional potential costs if Golden Gate staff did this work are possible injuries from attempting to use mowers and weed whackers on the steep terrain or potential poison oak infections, both of which could incur medical treatment and loss of work time.

The goats, which were stationed for three weeks on the steeper areas of the 120-acre campus in Mill Valley, Calif., have been annual visitors at the Bay Area seminary for the past five years. They were managed by a Chilean goat herder and two border collies as well as a portable electric fence. The three different kinds of goats -– alpine, angora and pigmy -– were supplied with water, a salt lick and all the delectable natural grasses and poison oak they could eat on about 50 acres of the campus.

Golden Gate also is swapping several of its gasoline-powered carts for four electric vehicles. "We hope to dispose of at least three of our gasoline vehicles," Dvorak said. "For one particularly old truck, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District is paying us $650 to retire it."

Other "green" methods that Golden Gate employs is the use of "Orange Spray," an environmentally friendly alternative for a chemical termite spray; a recycling program that includes florescent bulbs, batteries, used oil and old paint; and upgrades to some of its boiler rooms to more efficient gas burners and more efficient pumps.

"We appreciate the opportunities for the seminary to be responsible environmental stewards of this beautiful spot in Marin County," Golden Gate Seminary President Jeff Iorg said.

Golden Gate Seminary is a Cooperative Program ministry of the Southern Baptist Convention and operates five fully accredited campuses in Northern California, Southern California, the Pacific Northwest, Arizona and Colorado.


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: goats; sheep

1 posted on 09/05/2008 8:55:36 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

400 Goats?

I thought this was an evangelism piece at first.

Couldn’t they have found 400 sheep instead?


2 posted on 09/05/2008 8:57:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (Sarah Palin brought me out of the Religion Forum.)
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To: Gamecock

I thought the goats might’ve been part of some interfaith exchange with Islam.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 8:59:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Gamecock

Sheep rip up the plants they’re eating roots and all.


4 posted on 09/05/2008 8:59:50 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Our momma is better than Obama.)
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To: Gamecock

Mass wedding?


5 posted on 09/05/2008 9:00:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Gamecock

There is another outfit here in Petaluma that hire out sheep to mow the vinyards in the area - “wooly weeders”


6 posted on 09/05/2008 9:03:54 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Gamecock

Goats are pretty popular in the Bay Area. They keep the grasses down so you can meet fire regs.

If you call, they always tell you “the goats are really busy” and you have to book some weeks out.


7 posted on 09/05/2008 9:05:20 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Coldwater Creek

bookmark


8 posted on 09/05/2008 9:12:55 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Gamecock

Ok, ok, I get it....conserve energy, save the planet, right? But I’m skeptical because saving energy is like squeezing a balloon...it usually pops out somewhere else, if I remember my thermodynamics.

Let’s see, 400 goats, a goatherd, and two border collies. Hmmm. How do you transport them to site? I’ll bet it’s not in an SUV. Is the goatherd on staff 24/7? What about all their methane gas? Flu shots? Vet costs?

Simpler to hire a couple of summer students and riding mowers every two weeks. So what do they have against students already?


9 posted on 09/05/2008 9:14:55 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Gamecock

I was told by someone who raises goats that they will only eat weeds, not grass. He said if you want a really nice pasture, keep a goat. We are considering getting one to get rid of the saw vine in our woods.


10 posted on 09/05/2008 9:15:04 AM PDT by Grammy (Obama worked for 143 days as a Senator before deciding he was qualified to be President.)
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To: Gamecock

Goats are much better at brush clearing.


11 posted on 09/05/2008 9:17:54 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Grammy

They will eat grass, but they’d much rather eat bigger leaves. They really like stuff like blackberry bushes.


12 posted on 09/05/2008 9:19:37 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: B Knotts

Sorry, there for a moment I was thinking ‘oh no, not another sex scandal’. Just Baptists doing brush clearance. Nothing to see here, move along.


13 posted on 09/05/2008 9:26:01 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (McCain is at least a Trajan, not a Galba.)
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To: CanaGuy
Simpler to hire a couple of summer students and riding mowers every two weeks. So what do they have against students already?

You have to take some other factors into consideration regarding the use of goats for clearing brush:

1) The terrain - They are used on hillsides, some very steep, where mowing is not practical.

2) "Green Belts" -- The neighbors would complain about the mowing more then a few already do about the goats.

3) Seasonal - Grass does not grow during the summer on the hillsides of California. Instead it is a dried fire hazard. The goats eat the grass close to the ground, just before it dies off and we are supposed to be left with a closely trimmed hillside, as devoid as possible of tinder.

They use them regularly in this area and I think it is a great idea. Plus the goat cheese is delicious!

14 posted on 09/05/2008 9:26:37 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Gamecock
Golden Gate is one of our more liberal seminaries.

I think goats are just fine!.

15 posted on 09/05/2008 10:21:41 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

At last someone caught the scriptural reference!


16 posted on 09/05/2008 10:28:34 AM PDT by Gamecock (Sarah Palin brought me out of the Religion Forum.)
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To: CanaGuy

Simpler to hire a couple of summer students and riding mowers every two weeks.
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Simpler even to read the story and come up with this tidbit “The goats, which were stationed for three weeks on the steeper areas of the 120-acre campus “ is a reference to the fact that you can’t put a college kid on a riding mower in the steeper areas of the campus.


17 posted on 09/05/2008 12:27:41 PM PDT by dmz
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