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A few prefatory comments:

Please remember that David is not a literalist creationist but an "ID" Theistic evolutionist; ie, he accepts evolution and the evolutionary timetable but merely believes that G-d, and not "natural selection," is the valid scientific explanation for evolution (at least at certain points on the evolutionary timetable). I of course disagree with him on this, but nevertheless think he does important work.

David mentions that most, if not all, of the "rabbis" signing the referenced letter are not Orthodox. I remind all readers that "non-Orthodox Judaisms" have no valid rabbinic ordination and that only Orthodox rabbis are in fact rabbis. This does not mean there are no Orthodox rabbis who are evolutionists, but it is still a most important point.

The unfortunate use of the phrase "simple-minded fundamentalist literalism" is a reference not to religious fundamentalism per se (ie, that religious truth is factually true as well) but rather to what Catholics call sola scriptura. It is unfortunate that so many Jews, Catholics, and Orthodox chr*stians confuse sola scriptura with fundamentalism. The true name of the sola scriptura position is not "fundamentalism" but Qara'ut (Qara'ism) in Judaism and Protestantism in chr*stianity. And since liberal, anti-literalist, anti-fundamentalist Protestants are every bit as sola scriptura as their fundamentalist counterparts, the use of the word "fundamentalist" to denote a position which may in fact be either fundamentalist or liberal is most unfortunate.

My past experience on FR is that Eastern/Oriental/Nestorian Orthodoxy is every bit as pro-evolutionist as any Catholic. David may not be familiar with this.

I've tried to correctly transcribe the hyperlinks in the article. If I have failed, kindly go to the original article to click on them.

All in all, a timely topic for the 25th of 'Elul.

1 posted on 09/25/2008 12:21:49 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Yomin Postelnik; wideawake

Ping for your interest.


2 posted on 09/25/2008 12:22:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hanistarot LeHaShem 'Eloqeynu; vehaniglot lanu ulevaneynu `ad-`olam . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
My past experience on FR is that Eastern/Oriental/Nestorian Orthodoxy is every bit as pro-evolutionist as any Catholic

FR may not be an accurate source then. I recall a book recently published by a Father Rose (sorry I can't recall the full title), that defends the biblical creation view (contra old earth views) from an Eastern Orthodox perspective and extensively documents the historical fact that the Eastern church has affirmed a YEC position. In fact, a recent Catholic work has done the same for Catholic church history. (See Fr. Victor P. Warkulwiz, The Doctrines of Genesis 1-11: A Compendium and Defense of Traditional Catholic Theology on Origins).

3 posted on 09/25/2008 12:31:42 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good" (1:31).

Not quite. God saw everything that he had made, and it was good, except for man. God made man, but according to Genesis, He had no comment.

7 posted on 09/25/2008 12:52:39 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

There certainly are Jewish creationists — I’m sure at least a dozen out there. The vast majority of Jews — not just liberal Jews — accept evolution and have for 100 years or more.


9 posted on 09/25/2008 12:58:18 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Larry Lucido; Dr. Eckleburg

I head, from a very good source, that rabbis are allowed to date.


11 posted on 09/25/2008 1:39:17 PM PDT by Gamecock (Life is to short for bad theology.)
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