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Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ -- St. Jerome
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Posted on 09/29/2008 10:31:31 PM PDT by Salvation

    
(c. 342-420)

Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ

   I interpret as I should, following the command of Christ: Search the Scriptures, and Seek and you shall find. Christ will not say to me what he said to the Jews: You erred, not knowing the Scriptures and not knowing the power of God. For if, as Paul says, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, and if the man who does not know Scripture does not know the power and wisdom of God, then ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.
     Therefore, I will imitate the head of a household who brings out of his storehouse things both new and old, and says to his spouse in the Song of Songs: I have kept for you things new and old, my beloved. In this way permit me to explain Isaiah, showing that he was not only a prophet, but an evangelist and an apostle as well. For he says about himself and the other evangelists: How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news, of those who announce peace. And God speaks to him as if he were an apostle: Whom shall I send, who will go to my people? And he answers: Here I am; send me.
     No one should think that I mean to explain the entire subject matter of this great book of Scripture in one brief sermon, since it contains all the mysteries of the Lord. It prophesies that Emmanuel is to be born of a virgin and accomplish marvelous works and signs. It predicts his death, burial and resurrection from the dead as the Savior of all men. I need say nothing about the natural sciences, ethics and logic. Whatever is proper to holy Scripture, whatever can be expressed in human language and understood by the human mind, is contained in the book of Isaiah. Of these mysteries the author himself testifies when he writes: You shall be given a vision of all things, like words in a sealed scroll. When they give the writings to a wise man, they will say: Read this, he will reply: I cannot for it is sealed. And when the scroll is given to an educated man and he is told: Read this, he will reply: I do not know how to read.
     Should this argument appear weak to anyone, let him listen to the Apostle: Let two or three prophets speak, and let others interpret; if, however, a revelation should come to one of those who are seated there, let the first one be quiet. How can they be silent, since it depends on the Spirit who speaks through his prophets whether they remain silent or speak? If they understood what they were saying, all things would be full of wisdom and knowledge. But it was not the air vibrating with the human voice that reached their ears, but rather it was God speaking within the soul of the prophets, just as another prophet says: It is an angel who spoke in me; and again, Crying out in our hearts, Abba, Father, and I shall listen to what the Lord God says within me. 

Source:  The Liturgy of the Hours - Office of Readings 

Eusebius Hieronymus Sophronius, known as Jerome, (c. 342-420) was born in Dalmatia, studied at Rome under Donatus, the famous pagan grammarian and acquired great skill and knowledge of the Latin, Greek and great classic authors. He became a Christian convert and was baptized by Pope Liberius at Rome in 360. He became an ascetic at Aquileia in 370 joining a group of scholars under Bishop Valerian among whom was Rufinus. The group broke up and Jerome traveled to Antioch. There, a vision of Christ caused Jerome to go to Chalcis in the Syrian desert where he lived as a hermit, praying, fasting, learning Hebrew and writing a life of St. Paul. On his return to Antioch he was ordained a priest by St. Paulinus.

   Jerome then went to Constantinople to study Scripture under St. Gregory Nazianzen, and in 382 he went to Rome to attend a council but remained there as secretary to Pope Damasus, who commissioned him to prepare the first complete Latin translations of the four gospels, St. Paul's epistles and the Psalms from their original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts.  While in Rome, Jerome also wrote a stinging refutation "Adversum Helvidium", denouncing a book by Helvidius declaring that The Virgin Mary had had several children besides Jesus. After the death of Pope Damasus, Jerome traveled to Bethlehem in 384. 

   There he  headed a monastery and during the next thirty four years completed his translation of the New Testament of the Bible into Latin and completed the a translation of the entire Old Testament from its original Hebrew texts into Latin.  This monumental task is considered, even today, a feat of scholarship unequaled in the Church history.  This version, called the  "Latin Vulgate" was declared the official Latin text of the Bible for Catholics by the Council of Trent. It is reported that Jerome once removed a thorn from a lion's paw. In gratitude, the lion stayed with Jerome at his hermitage as a loyal companion for years.  Numerous paintings by the masters depict Jerome with this lion.

   Jerome's monastery at Bethlehem was destroyed in 416 by a group of Plagian rebels angered over Jerome's written denunciation of Pelagianism.  Jerome died at Bethlehem on September 30 in the year 420 following a lingering illness. He left some 120 letters of enormous historical merit as well as numerous other writings.  He is buried at the Basilica of St. Mary Major in Rome. The above prologue is just one of his powerful spiritual commentaries.



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1 posted on 09/29/2008 10:31:32 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: annalex

** There he headed a monastery and during the next thirty four years completed his translation of the New Testament of the Bible into Latin and completed the a translation of the entire Old Testament from its original Hebrew texts into Latin.**

Vulgate reference for all.


2 posted on 09/29/2008 10:33:50 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation


St Jerome

Sano di Pietro

c. 1470
Tempera on panel, 95 x 51 cm
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston

3 posted on 09/29/2008 11:18:19 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Salvation
who commissioned him to prepare the first complete Latin translations of the four gospels, St. Paul's epistles and the Psalms from their original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts.

Really??? So Jerome had Paul's original writings, letters written by David and Job, and the original Aramaic written Gospels...

Seems a little odd that your church would have preserved Jerome's writings but been so careless to lose those 'original' autographs...

Uh, I guess Jeremiah was lying then, in his writings...

4 posted on 09/30/2008 6:45:39 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


6 posted on 09/30/2008 10:18:02 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Iscool
Seems a little odd that your church would have preserved Jerome's writings but been so careless to lose those 'original' autographs...

You know about those things called wars and disaster, particularly in Italy, don't you?

7 posted on 09/30/2008 12:36:29 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Pyro7480

Some see the world as a Dan Brown novel.

That’s what happens after the abandonment of the God-given gifts of logic and common sense.


8 posted on 09/30/2008 12:38:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Petronski; nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...
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9 posted on 09/30/2008 3:09:29 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Petronski

Some, while claiming a love of Christ, are so deluded by the deceiver that they harbor hatred toward Christ in their hearts. It is eating away at their immortal souls and does great damage to the Body of Christ. I find it very sad to observe their sickness.


10 posted on 09/30/2008 3:19:10 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Let's Roll!!)
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To: Iscool
I don't get what you're saying. I'm not on top of the history of the individual writings, the actual pieces of paper. But when I say "the original Greek" I don't mean the original piece(s) of paper but a (usually edited with footnotes and variant texts) copy.

Are you saying

  1. That Jerome claimed to have the original pieces of paper, "autographs" of the Apostles and Evangelists;
  2. That the church still has the original pieces of paper that were handled and written upon by Jerome?
  3. That anybody, say, 1,500+ years ago knew how to preserve parchment (dried lambskin) and paper?
Even modern non-archival paper only lasts a few decades, and that's in houses with heating and air-conditioning. I guess I don't understand what claim you think that Jerome made and which turned out to be false.
11 posted on 09/30/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool
The “original texts” were probably passed down from generation to generation by means of copying them to new material. Since they were of such important interest to the people keeping them and such items decay easily - I would expect that to be the case.

The fact that Jerome was commissioned to prepare the first complete Latin translations of the four gospels, St. Paul's epistles and the Psalms is proof at how careful “my Church” (actually it is God's Church) was at the time.

Careless would be making the senseless accusation of “lying” based on a ridiculous idea that the absence of “originals” from thousands of years ago is proof that people lied.

12 posted on 09/30/2008 10:59:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Sarah Palin 08 12 16 20)
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To: Mad Dawg
Even modern non-archival paper only lasts a few decades, and that's in houses with heating and air-conditioning. I guess I don't understand what claim you think that Jerome made and which turned out to be false.

I am not the one that made the claim Jerome translated from the originals...How many curious lurkers are out there reading that the Catholic church translated their texts right from the original writings of the Apostles and Patriarchs???

I'm just letting them know there's not an ounce of truth in it...

13 posted on 10/01/2008 9:51:16 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The fact that Jerome was commissioned to prepare the first complete Latin translations of the four gospels, St. Paul's epistles and the Psalms is proof at how careful “my Church” (actually it is God's Church) was at the time.

My research of history shows that the scriptures were translated into what is called the Old Latin long before Jerome ever showed up...

AND, these texts jive directly with the manuscripts of the 'Received' or Majority Texts which the Catholics avoid at all costs...

AND, that many of these Old Latin texts currently reside within the Orthodox Church...

AND, that Jerome retranslated these Old Latin Texts into his own version of Latin, hence the Latin Vulgate...

14 posted on 10/01/2008 10:02:33 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Petronski
That’s what happens after the abandonment of the God-given gifts of logic and common sense.

Some folks who completely disagree with you theologically also make the claim they are relying on this God-given logic...

But hey, let me ask you a question...

Are you imbued with this God-given logic in all areas of your life, ie., mechanics, electrics, physics, science, nano-technology, etc., etc.??? Or did you just get the 'gift of logic' in theology???

Like I told you before; logic is for people who don't know something...A little bit of education or experience clears up all kinds of logic...

15 posted on 10/01/2008 10:14:36 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Iscool
Some folks who completely disagree with you theologically also make the claim they are relying on this God-given logic...

It's not about disagreeing with me, it's about disagreeing with the Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church.

It's not about God being on my side, it's about me being on His.

16 posted on 10/01/2008 10:25:07 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Petronski
It's not about disagreeing with me, it's about disagreeing with the Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church

No it isn't...You have stated/implied in many threads that you have God-given logic...I'm just trying to find out if it has any limitations...

17 posted on 10/01/2008 10:57:08 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Iscool
You have stated/implied in many threads that you have God-given logic...

We all do.

18 posted on 10/01/2008 10:58:17 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Iscool
So you're saying that when they said "original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts" you (or some person to be names later) thought they meant the original manuscripts, the "autographs"?

Well, that's not what most people mean by that, but since it's unclear and since someone who wasn't familiar with the language of scholarship might think it mean the original pieces of paper, I suppose it's good to clarify for that person that that is not what is meant.

However, to say that there is a lie involved is another thing lacking an ounce of truth. It takes a special kind of effort to parlay ignorance of the language of scholarship on the part of person A into a lie by person B.

19 posted on 10/01/2008 8:02:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
It takes a special kind of effort to parlay ignorance of the language of scholarship on the part of person A into a lie by person B.

So it's not a lie??? Not a fib??? Just the language of 'scholarship'??? The person repeating the 'language of scholarship' has been deceived as well as the person hearing it...But that's ok...Cause it's the language of scholarship...

I like to call a spade a spade...It's deception...No more, no less...

20 posted on 10/02/2008 5:56:45 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Iscool
AND, that Jerome retranslated these Old Latin Texts into his own version of Latin, hence the Latin Vulgate...

Where is the evidence that Jerome used the Old Latin Texts, instead of (rather than in addition to) the Greek, Latin, Hebrew, and Aramaic?

21 posted on 10/02/2008 6:14:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Iscool
I like to call a spade a spade

Call a "spade" a "spade"? Nobody has mentioned spades. We haven't even spoken about shovels or any kind of digging tool.

Oh, wait. You mean it's a manner of speaking, a well known expression? You mean nobody thought you were actually talking about spades?

You're saying it's okay to claim we've been talking about implements of agriculture because it's a well known expression, a manner of speaking, an expression? I like to call a prevarication a prevarication. It's as much a deception to bring up spades as it is to think that this article says that Jerome worked from the original manuscripts, no more, no less ....

22 posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: All
Doctors of the Catholic Church




Saint Jerome was a brilliant scripture scholar and translator of the bible. He was a consultant to popes, bishops and monks. None before or after him were so well qualified or gifted to achieve the monumental task of translating into Latin all the Hebrew books of the bible.

He was peerless in his generation and his contributions to civilization and the church are extraordinary and unmatched. His biblical scholarship and intensity, passion and fury, in which he wrote, are emblematic of his personality traits. Our saint showed anger and deep compassion and he was held in high esteem by those who disliked and loved him. He is commonly called Hieronymus in Latin or Jerome.

The Father of Biblical Science defended the perpetual virginity in body and mind of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ. He was a faithful priest of his day and no one was more learned, prepared and achieved the tasks that he accomplished. He was a prolific writer and his works were voluminous and included the major prophets, and 120 letters. His book of short biographies has preserved much information not otherwise known.

Father Christopher Renger's, O.F.M. book on the 33 Doctors is frequently quoted and his book is listed in the doctoral sources. There is also a concise, one page, historical summary on each of the 73 books of the bible listed at the end.

Jerome will surely tell you that ignorance of the bible is ignorance of Christ. Therefore, you may be the only bible some people will ever read so be careful how you live.



St Jerome, 345-420. Doctor of Biblical Science, Feast Sept 30th.


23 posted on 09/29/2009 6:05:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All
Reading A commentary on Isaiah by St Jerome
Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ
I interpret as I should, following the command of Christ: Search the Scriptures, and Seek and you shall find. Christ will not say to me what he said to the Jews: You erred, not knowing the Scriptures and not knowing the power of God. For if, as Paul says, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, and if the man who does not know Scripture does not know the power and wisdom of God, then ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.
  Therefore, I will imitate the head of a household who brings out of his storehouse things both new and old, and says to his spouse in the Song of Songs: I have kept for you things new and old, my beloved. In this way permit me to explain Isaiah, showing that he was not only a prophet, but an evangelist and an apostle as well. For he says about himself and the other evangelists: How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news, of those who announce peace. And God speaks to him as if he were an apostle: Whom shall I send, who will go to my people? And he answers: Here I am; send me.
  No one should think that I mean to explain the entire subject matter of this great book of Scripture in one brief sermon, since it contains all the mysteries of the Lord. It prophesies that Emmanuel is to be born of a virgin and accomplish marvellous works and signs. It predicts his death, burial and resurrection from the dead as the Saviour of all men. I need say nothing about the natural sciences, ethics and logic. Whatever is proper to holy Scripture, whatever can be expressed in human language and understood by the human mind, is contained in the book of Isaiah. Of these mysteries the author himself testifies when he writes: You will be given a vision of all things, like words in a sealed scroll. When they give the writings to a wise man, they will say: Read this. And he will reply: I cannot, for it is sealed. And when the scroll is given to an uneducated man and he is told: Read this, he will reply: I do not know how to read.
  Should this argument appear weak to anyone, let him listen to the Apostle: Let two or three prophets speak, and let others interpret; if, however, a revelation should come to one of those who are seated there, let the first one be quiet. How can they be silent, since it depends on the Spirit who speaks through his prophets whether they remain silent or speak? If they understood what they were saying, all things would be full of wisdom and knowledge. But it was not the air vibrating with the human voice that reached their ears , but rather it was God speaking within the soul of the prophets, just as another prophet says: It is an angel who spoke in me; and again, Crying out in our hearts, Abba, Father’, and I shall listen to what the Lord God says within me.

Let us pray.
Almighty, ever-living God, you endowed Saint Jerome with a deep reverence for Holy Scripture, which he loved with all his heart.
  Sustain us ever more with your word and help us to find in it the source of life.
[We make our prayer] through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
  who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
  God for ever and ever.
Amen.

24 posted on 09/30/2010 8:26:56 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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